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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer

USA
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Posted - 26 Jul 2007 :  01:28:30  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

Eric, I'm enjoying reading the adventure, with reservations, and I'll try to write up some detailed feedback when I finish it. For now, could you answer a few questions?

Given that the Wolfwatch Manor map in Power of Faerūn was said to be similar (identical?) to Castle Krag, is the map of the latter in Scouring the original layout or a new one?

How did Jyordhan come to be a dread wraith? How do you envision his unlife before the Zhent occupation?



Look forward to the feedback.

I think it was meant this way ...

In Ed's home campaign, the map that is "official" for Wolfwatch Manor is actually Castle Krag.

In the official Realms, Wolfwatch Manor and Castle Krag are as described in Power of Faerun and Shadowdale: Scouring of the Land, resepectively.

As for Jyordhan, I seem to recall there was a little more explanation in Thomas's original draft explaining his presence. I can't recall if Jyordhan rose as a wraith for his crimes (particularly the massacre of Tyrists on Watcher's Knoll) or if Malathon transformed him into a dread wraith. Given that the 3.5e MM says "The oldest and most malevolent wraiths lurk in the depths of forgotten temples and other forsaken places," I suspect it was the former.

You might ask Thomas in his scroll, as he wrote that chapter. (Rich wrote the Dread Lair of Alokkair, and I wrote the other chapters and the appendix.)

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Octa
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Posted - 26 Jul 2007 :  21:18:43  Show Profile  Visit Octa's Homepage Send Octa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Eric- Great job on Shadowdale, its the adventure that should have been written for 1354 wherein your PCs get to become the 'Knights', but given the constraints of the current history, its great.

******Spoilers Below*********






Ok so here is my question, Do you all expect for the PCs who save Shadowdale to bond the 'Warblade'?

Who is going to end up with it in official canon?

How incompatible with the Lore would it be to allow a human to bond it? If one wanted to introduce some good guy vs good guy rivalry between the humans and elves fighting for Myth Drannor this would be a good plot device.

Also after being 'accepted' by the elves it would symbolize the rebirth of Myth Drannor as a truly multiracial metropolis with elves and humans hand in hand as equals.
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ericlboyd
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Posted - 26 Jul 2007 :  21:31:33  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Octa

Eric- Great job on Shadowdale, its the adventure that should have been written for 1354 wherein your PCs get to become the 'Knights', but given the constraints of the current history, its great.


One goal, at least for me, was that you could run it in 1354, 1358, 1367, etc. Zhentil Keep has invaded so many times, it works in almost any timeframe.

quote:

******Spoilers Below*********






Ok so here is my question, Do you all expect for the PCs who save Shadowdale to bond the 'Warblade'?

Who is going to end up with it in official canon?

How incompatible with the Lore would it be to allow a human to bond it? If one wanted to introduce some good guy vs good guy rivalry between the humans and elves fighting for Myth Drannor this would be a good plot device.

Also after being 'accepted' by the elves it would symbolize the rebirth of Myth Drannor as a truly multiracial metropolis with elves and humans hand in hand as equals.



I don't know who is going to end up with it in canon. I suspect, should that ever be touched on, that it will be an elven general in service to Isvele, but there might be more interesting solutions than that. In other words, it's open for now.

As to whether the PCs keep it or not, it's obviously up to them. I think it would make sense for the PCs to keep it if they are going to stay involved in the reclamation of Myth Drannor or as lords of Shadowdale. If however, they are going to follow events in the next module, Anauroch, then it might make more sense to give it to Isvele to bequeath as she sees fit in exchange for a set of unique lesser power items (one per character and particularly appropriate for each) retrieved from the ruins. I say this because as a DM, you really have two ways to go here. One is to focus on the "greater Myth Drannor war" and one is to focus on the NDA (but you can guess) angle. For the former, you're on your own, although you might get some help from Dragon #354 and in the near future.

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Octa
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USA
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Posted - 26 Jul 2007 :  22:21:25  Show Profile  Visit Octa's Homepage Send Octa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Eric- Thanks for the answer.

******Spoilers**********






One more: What do you think about a human bonding the Warblade? This is explicitly prohibited in the write up, but maybe the Seladrine in order to make Myth Drannor stronger long term have taken the 'elven' blood requirement out of things.
Did you all include this in both LEoF and SSotL to be consistent with the 1e and 2e lore, or was it an additional requirement.

or

One could always come up with a well while human their grandfather was an elf, like Danilo Than and the Spellsinger class he took up.

Personally I like the first one better because it shows a desire to finally elimianate the elven slant to the city of Myth Drannor that rightly caused the humans/dwarves/gnomes of the city to feel like second class citizens.
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ericlboyd
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Posted - 27 Jul 2007 :  00:46:51  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Octa

Eric- Thanks for the answer.

******Spoilers**********






One more: What do you think about a human bonding the Warblade? This is explicitly prohibited in the write up, but maybe the Seladrine in order to make Myth Drannor stronger long term have taken the 'elven' blood requirement out of things.
Did you all include this in both LEoF and SSotL to be consistent with the 1e and 2e lore, or was it an additional requirement.

or

One could always come up with a well while human their grandfather was an elf, like Danilo Than and the Spellsinger class he took up.

Personally I like the first one better because it shows a desire to finally elimianate the elven slant to the city of Myth Drannor that rightly caused the humans/dwarves/gnomes of the city to feel like second class citizens.



I think it's fine if it works for your campaign to rule that the Seldarine are deliberately promoting inter-racial harmony.

I don't recall what was said in 2e, but look in the Cormanthyr sourcebook (available as a free PDF on the WoTC site). I didn't actually do the original 3e write-up, so I've never gone back and compared to the original 2e write-up. I just did an abbreviated form of the write-up for Shadowdale.

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Octa
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Posted - 27 Jul 2007 :  21:30:11  Show Profile  Visit Octa's Homepage Send Octa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Eric- First off thanks for answering our questions, and now a rules question which I think i fair game since you wrote one of the feats in question, i.e. Bane of Infidels and it comes up in terms of the type/subtype distinction.

1, Suppose I have Favored Enemy Humanoid (elf) attacking a Fey'ri with the type Outsider(Native, Augmented Humanoid[elf]). Do I get my favored enemy bonus against these guys?

2, There are a couple of feats/class abilities outside of the Ranger class that add Favored enemies. Feats like Foe Hunter, or Bane of Infidels add specific types of favored enemies. If I take Improved Favored Enemy does that apply to enemies acquired through the Bane of Infidels feat?

3, I read somewhere that Foe Hunter Stacks with the Ranger favored enemies, but can't remember where. Does anyone remember seeing this too?













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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore

Canada
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Posted - 27 Jul 2007 :  21:54:40  Show Profile  Click to see Purple Dragon Knight's MSN Messenger address Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Octa

Eric- First off thanks for answering our questions, and now a rules question which I think i fair game since you wrote one of the feats in question, i.e. Bane of Infidels and it comes up in terms of the type/subtype distinction.

1, Suppose I have Favored Enemy Humanoid (elf) attacking a Fey'ri with the type Outsider(Native, Augmented Humanoid[elf]). Do I get my favored enemy bonus against these guys?
Yes, if they are listed to have elf blood (DHTBIFOM)

quote:
2, There are a couple of feats/class abilities outside of the Ranger class that add Favored enemies. Feats like Foe Hunter, or Bane of Infidels add specific types of favored enemies. If I take Improved Favored Enemy does that apply to enemies acquired through the Bane of Infidels feat?
Sure, why not?

quote:
3, I read somewhere that Foe Hunter Stacks with the Ranger favored enemies, but can't remember where. Does anyone remember seeing this too?
Player's Guide to Faerun. Yes, Foe Hunter stacks with Favored Enemy; so does the favored enemy pouch magic item from Magic of Faerun... (a neat trick that I always use when I build a ranger PC or NPC...)
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Octa
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Posted - 29 Jul 2007 :  16:52:31  Show Profile  Visit Octa's Homepage Send Octa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
PDK, do you know where this is written up in the RAW, I can't find it anywhere. Foe Hunter I think Rich said on the Ask Rich thread, that it does stack, but I wanted something more official.

Thanks for the Heads up on the Pouch thing, I never caught that before.
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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 29 Jul 2007 :  17:48:29  Show Profile  Click to see Purple Dragon Knight's MSN Messenger address Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's written right into the feat...
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer

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Posted - 29 Jul 2007 :  18:48:24  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Octa

Eric- First off thanks for answering our questions, and now a rules question which I think i fair game since you wrote one of the feats in question, i.e. Bane of Infidels and it comes up in terms of the type/subtype distinction.




I won't have access to my books for a week, so I'll have to let someone else answer the rules question.

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Amnezjusz
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Posted - 07 Aug 2007 :  14:15:20  Show Profile  Visit Amnezjusz's Homepage Send Amnezjusz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello Eric.

I have one question after reading 'Dragons of Faerun'. Can you tell us when exactly (month or even a day) Klauth attacked Mirabar during lateset Rage of Dragons?

Many thanks for help.

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 07 Aug 2007 :  16:10:07  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Amnezjusz

Hello Eric.

I have one question after reading 'Dragons of Faerun'. Can you tell us when exactly (month or even a day) Klauth attacked Mirabar during lateset Rage of Dragons?

Many thanks for help.



I don't think I pinned it down. I've recently (Dragon #354) worked out the timeline for the Cormanthyr region down to the day over the past couple of years, but I don't think I've done it anywhere for the North.

Unless I did it in GHotR (not yet published) and I'm not remembering.

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Foxhelm
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 :  16:33:18  Show Profile  Click to see Foxhelm's MSN Messenger address  Send Foxhelm a Yahoo! Message Send Foxhelm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was wondering if you could answer a question or two that I had. I posted it earlier, but I think that it got missed in the other questions at the time given the arrival of the Undermountain addventure. So Here it is again, and I hope it's not a problem.

Here's an interesting question:

A Relic holder (from Powers of Faerun's Chapter on Religious Leaders) gains a bonus to Leadership of Plus One. What kind of bonus to Leadership would be gained by being a creator of a relic (since froim Complete Divine, a relic can be a normal magical item with some special diety related powers)? Would it be a Plus Two bonus to leadership? Or would it be more than that since the relic may last longer then the item crafter and help expand the faith?

What kind of effect would having intimate relations with a deity have on leadership? Or being a child of a deity? Or being a choosen of the Deity (which must be higher than being a archbishop of the faith)?

Foxhelm

Thanks again.

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Uzzy
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Posted - 09 Aug 2007 :  13:31:06  Show Profile  Visit Uzzy's Homepage Send Uzzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello Mr Boyd.

I was wondering if your going to continue with the Realms Conversion for the Savage Tide Adventure Path? They are a lot of help!

Thanks for your time.
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer

USA
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Posted - 10 Aug 2007 :  14:38:34  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Uzzy

Hello Mr Boyd.

I was wondering if your going to continue with the Realms Conversion for the Savage Tide Adventure Path? They are a lot of help!

Thanks for your time.



Yep. Working on them.

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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer

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Posted - 10 Aug 2007 :  14:41:15  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Foxhelm

I was wondering if you could answer a question or two that I had. I posted it earlier, but I think that it got missed in the other questions at the time given the arrival of the Undermountain addventure. So Here it is again, and I hope it's not a problem.

Here's an interesting question:

A Relic holder (from Powers of Faerun's Chapter on Religious Leaders) gains a bonus to Leadership of Plus One. What kind of bonus to Leadership would be gained by being a creator of a relic (since froim Complete Divine, a relic can be a normal magical item with some special diety related powers)? Would it be a Plus Two bonus to leadership? Or would it be more than that since the relic may last longer then the item crafter and help expand the faith?

What kind of effect would having intimate relations with a deity have on leadership? Or being a child of a deity? Or being a choosen of the Deity (which must be higher than being a archbishop of the faith)?

Foxhelm

Thanks again.



I'd probably go with +2 for creating a relic. I realize that might seem low, but I feel the leadership bonus is mostly for recovering/possessing a relic with a historical record, not creating something new (which is not yet well known).

As for "intimate relations / child of / Chosen of", I'd give a +2 or +3 bonus. My reasoning is that all these things are easily claimed, but hard to prove.

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Foxhelm
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Posted - 10 Aug 2007 :  15:16:34  Show Profile  Click to see Foxhelm's MSN Messenger address  Send Foxhelm a Yahoo! Message Send Foxhelm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the answers.

I have another question that is linked to the Celadrin. I am working with an idea of a Celadrin Cleric/Bard of Finder Wyvernspur (odd but possible given the link to arts). I was thinking of having a possible romantic link with a Fey'ri Wizardress, but while the families that the Fey'ri come from are known I was curious about which families of elves are likely to have Celadrins in them?

I know that gold elves families are the likely suspects, but are there certain families with more links to the celestial planetouched then others?

The only major one that I can think of is the Aelorothi family which is known for it's clerical history (source Elves of Evermeet), which is just as ironic since they are also one of the families of Fey'ri. I am not sure that I want a Fey'ri Aelorothi falling for a distance Celadrin Aelorothi cousin, at leats not just yet. So that is what I am asking the question.

I hope that you can give me an answer as soon as possible. Thanks.

Foxhelm

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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer

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Posted - 10 Aug 2007 :  20:51:00  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Foxhelm

Thanks for the answers.

I have another question that is linked to the Celadrin. I am working with an idea of a Celadrin Cleric/Bard of Finder Wyvernspur (odd but possible given the link to arts). I was thinking of having a possible romantic link with a Fey'ri Wizardress, but while the families that the Fey'ri come from are known I was curious about which families of elves are likely to have Celadrins in them?

I know that gold elves families are the likely suspects, but are there certain families with more links to the celestial planetouched then others?

The only major one that I can think of is the Aelorothi family which is known for it's clerical history (source Elves of Evermeet), which is just as ironic since they are also one of the families of Fey'ri. I am not sure that I want a Fey'ri Aelorothi falling for a distance Celadrin Aelorothi cousin, at leats not just yet. So that is what I am asking the question.

I hope that you can give me an answer as soon as possible. Thanks.

Foxhelm



If it was me, I'd pick a random gold elf family out of Cormanthyr or Elves of Evermeet. (The latter refers to a few families as "ex-Myth Drannor".)

Even if there's one that doesn't scream cleric, I'd say that the families are diverse enough (see the range of personalities in each family in Cormanthyr) that any given family might have sired a celadrin.

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Foxhelm
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Posted - 20 Aug 2007 :  16:33:21  Show Profile  Click to see Foxhelm's MSN Messenger address  Send Foxhelm a Yahoo! Message Send Foxhelm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm not sure if you can spill any beans about this yet, but will we be seeing the Celadrin, Fey'ri or Azerblood developed for Fourth Edition? Would it be on the D&D Insider or in a product like the one on races coming for the realms?

If possible could you give us a head up as soon as you can about the fate of these planetouched? Even if by a day or so?

Just curious, Thanks!

Foxhelm

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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer

USA
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Posted - 20 Aug 2007 :  17:43:42  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Foxhelm

I'm not sure if you can spill any beans about this yet, but will we be seeing the Celadrin, Fey'ri or Azerblood developed for Fourth Edition? Would it be on the D&D Insider or in a product like the one on races coming for the realms?

If possible could you give us a head up as soon as you can about the fate of these planetouched? Even if by a day or so?

Just curious, Thanks!

Foxhelm



No idea yet. I'll ask, but I'm unlikely to get an answer I can give any time soon.

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Mandras
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Estonia
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Posted - 20 Aug 2007 :  23:23:41  Show Profile  Visit Mandras's Homepage Send Mandras a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello mr Boyd.

I have bought the Shadowdale: Scouring of the Land module and reading it. I think it is well built module (especially the focus on PC-s being the stars of adventure). Also I believe it has a very good potential to become a memorable campaign for my players and I would give it the best rating of WotC modules published so far. .

However I have questions about some NPC-s of the module:

I can not understand why the true Mourngrym's char was built as it was. That version has nothing to do with how Mourngrym was designed in 1st and 2nd edition. The stats, abilities, equipment - nothing matches at all. The new version seems to be be some heavy footman, the original idea of a cavalier seemes to be absolutely lost. Could You please explain why this version was done the way it was?

Why is the young Falconhand such a weakling? Considering his parents he has rather horrible stats and his class/stats/feat choices do not make anything inspireing? Also - as according to official canon he was raised in Evermeet among the elves - how come he doesn't speak elven?

I apologise if my post seemes too offensive - i truly like the module so far :)

Best Regards,

Mandras


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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer

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Posted - 21 Aug 2007 :  00:48:24  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mandras

Hello mr Boyd.

I have bought the Shadowdale: Scouring of the Land module and reading it. I think it is well built module (especially the focus on PC-s being the stars of adventure). Also I believe it has a very good potential to become a memorable campaign for my players and I would give it the best rating of WotC modules published so far. .


Glad you liked it.

quote:
However I have questions about some NPC-s of the module:

I can not understand why the true Mourngrym's char was built as it was. That version has nothing to do with how Mourngrym was designed in 1st and 2nd edition. The stats, abilities, equipment - nothing matches at all. The new version seems to be be some heavy footman, the original idea of a cavalier seemes to be absolutely lost. Could You please explain why this version was done the way it was?


Mourngrym is consistent with the preexisting 3e write-up found here:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rp/20040428a

While I might have done him differently if I was starting with the 1e and 2e sources, I chose to keep it consistent with the 3e depiction (as that was the most recent).

quote:
Why is the young Falconhand such a weakling? Considering his parents he has rather horrible stats and his class/stats/feat choices do not make anything inspireing? Also - as according to official canon he was raised in Evermeet among the elves - how come he doesn't speak elven?


Azalar is built as a feytouched NPC with an elite array according to the rules. Base Abilities: Str 15, Dex 8, Con 13, Int 10, Wis 14, Cha 12. Added +2 Dex, -2 Con, +2 Cha for feytouched. Added +1 Str for 7 class levels. He's not intended to be high enough level to impact the encounter, hence the level. That's up to the PCs. Azalar is still a teenager ... and there to act as bait. Having him speak Elven would have made sense.

quote:
I apologise if my post seemes too offensive - i truly like the module so far :)

Best Regards,

Mandras





No worries. The "meta-answer" to your question is that NPCs are supposed to be designed according to certain rules. These NPCs follow those rules.

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Mandras
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Estonia
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Posted - 21 Aug 2007 :  07:01:42  Show Profile  Visit Mandras's Homepage Send Mandras a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

Mourngrym is consistent with the preexisting 3e write-up found here:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rp/20040428a

While I might have done him differently if I was starting with the 1e and 2e sources, I chose to keep it consistent with the 3e depiction (as that was the most recent).

--Eric



Well, that write-up by mr Boozer is exactly the thing I don't get.

It is made as if someone said: Hey, Mike, roll up an 8th level fighter.
Mike: Any restrictions on my design?
The other person: Nope, go as You like. Oh, almost forgot, I think we have to call him Mourngrym Amcathra. What a silly name...

Why it was made the way it was in the first place beats me. And why was that silly write-up preserved? Oh well, just ranting...

Best Regards,

Mandras

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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore

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Got my Dragon 359 today. Very nice job on Myth Drannor history recap (well I would have skiped the boring 2nd Pool of radiance thing ).

I hope that your realmslore mastery will be used by WoTC for the new FRCS...
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ericlboyd
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Posted - 25 Aug 2007 :  22:07:46  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic


Got my Dragon 359 today. Very nice job on Myth Drannor history recap (well I would have skiped the boring 2nd Pool of radiance thing ).

I hope that your realmslore mastery will be used by WoTC for the new FRCS...



Glad you liked it!.

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