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Ergdusch
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 Posted - 08 Nov 2006 : 09:26:26
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Originally posted by hammer of Moradin
Chosen, if I can complete it in time, look for a Candlekeep Compendium article on an order of dwarven monks early to the middle of next year.
Cool - the headbudding monks of Clangeddin Silverbeard! One of my PCs is a dwarven monk, though the combination was more a gaming effect than his real choice, for he started the game a being human.....
Anyhow, keep up the work - I can't wait reading it. |
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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 08 Nov 2006 : 12:13:24
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Indeed, a good idea, Hammer. That“s my point in this question, too: martial arts don“t need, exactly, to be "oriental martial arts". We have too many fighting styles in our world, in the ocident, to prove this.
I think that the Realms will develope fighting styles in the same way, too. Of course, dwarven monks will be a must to me! I“ll expect eagerly your article, Northen cousin!  |
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VonRaventheDaring
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Posted - 08 Nov 2006 : 14:32:08
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Having thought more on this subject (yes i can think, and no it doesn't hurt that much ) i have decided that i like the feel of the monks for the realms, and with the influance of the Kara-tur region i mean its not like a sea or anything stops monks from wandering over, or anything. Not to mention where the original monks started from i mean that someone would speculate that the monk focus is very old and just rediscovered lore for most of the churches of the world. I mean Shar and Selune both two of the oldest gods have monks, so why wouldn't others. Plus it helps the churches to have a fighting branch other than clerics with spells. I do think that the Jhaamdath empire would have had more monks than the Netherness but those two empire probabbly interacted so who's to say that the idea of monks wasn't something that was traded. |
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Victor_ograygor
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Posted - 08 Nov 2006 : 15:16:18
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| I am not mappy about the idea about monks in Ferun. I see monks as an asian type of priest, and dont understand whey they decided that they had to come to ferun? What will be next, a wujen mage guild in Comyr. And now we have a Thay enclave in Scardale ? Sorry i just dont understand whey they had to mix it all. In my game (I am DM), monks come from the Kara-tur region, not from hardlands, and The Red Wizards of Thay are from Thay! |
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VonRaventheDaring
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Posted - 08 Nov 2006 : 15:58:41
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| I disagree with the redwizards of Thay statement they are a nation of (evil) wizards the enclaves are more akin to embassies and they are used to utilize trade. They are trying to subvert the world kinda their goal for oh i don't know centuries they have a very valid reason to be active in the realms at least from their view point. And Red Wizards of Thay are from thay even if they have enclaves in other areas they are still Thayvian citizens and origionally from Thay kinda like American embassies doesn't mean we are calling the locals Americans! |
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WalkerNinja
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Posted - 08 Nov 2006 : 18:40:40
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You certainly bring up a good point. My answer to this would be that a monk seeking to surpass 10th level in the absence of one to teach him would have to step away from his adventuring career to focus on advancing his art. This is something of a contradiction in terms of game mechanics (i.e. w/o monsters, you can't get XP to gain levels). The contradiction is equally pertinent to a wizard that spends all of his time in his tower, studying arcane tomes. He hasn't adventured, he hasn't gotten any experience, how is he an Arch-Mage?
I am not fond of those game mechanics and specifically do not award XP for killing monsters.
The standard XP rules make monsters into grotesquely wrapped packages of EXP which must be "un-wrapped" to get what's inside. I believe that KEJR probably agrees with me since he so stringently insists on using "training" rules. |
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Entreri1000
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Posted - 22 Nov 2006 : 13:51:38
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Monks are great at killing mages and psionist.
My high level monk in Baldurs Gate2 completely owned mages etc. |
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Delzounblood
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Posted - 22 Nov 2006 : 15:09:02
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Originally posted by hammer of Moradin
Chosen, if I can complete it in time, look for a Candlekeep Compendium article on an order of dwarven monks early to the middle of next year.
In general, monks need to have some explanation of how they acquired their hand-to-hand combat techniques. We equate this h-t-h fighting with martial arts and Shaolin type monks. Hong Kong action flicks or karate from Japan is, to us, martial arts. However, what would have happened to boxing if it had become a zen-like sport for personal defense taught to peasants and those seeking enlightenment in our past?
With the varied races of the Realms, why do monks necessarily have to use -our- Eastern style martial arts, and not some other kind.
Well met
That's a very good point you've raised, hammer of Moradin. I'd never actually thought of that myself either and always simply accepted the stereotypical monk fighting style.
Needless to say, i'll certainly look forward to thy forthcoming article 
I agree why do we just accept the Monk to have eastern aka Martial Arts fighting as standard?
Perhaps someone could expand on this and create a Prc for monks or at least a sub-class that uses "Other" fighting styles..
The Psionic Monk.
The Boxing Monk.
The Phasing Monk (a monk who can through meditation phase out to the etheral plane).
I'm all for martial arts I used to do Ju-Jitsu myself, But how about a more and true Western Monk?
As for Dwarven Monks hehe they could be a special elite Battlerager Monk Class!!!!
They could even have a new GutBuster " HOLY GUTBUSTER " Blessed by the Soul Forger Himself
Just picture it... Headbutting a Giant in the DooDaa's (to coin Pikel) whilst wearing a head spike!!!
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dwarvenranger
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Posted - 22 Nov 2006 : 15:17:02
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I like how Walkerninja incorporated the monastic tradition into the standard faiths, IMO Danica as written in the Cleric Quintet represents this. It also shows why it's probably viewed with some degree of detachment, kinda like "break boards with your hand if you want, I have a mace to do that".
I also like the way Hammer views various fighting styles among races. I was never a fan of the dwarven monk, I always saw them as more of a reaping mauler PrC, type of unarmed fighter, but why couldn't a dwarven monk have developed along the same lines? Thanks for broadening my perception, Hammer. |
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MerrikCale
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Posted - 23 Nov 2006 : 16:10:00
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Bladewind
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Posted - 23 Nov 2006 : 18:39:36
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Capoeira is the afrobrazilian martial art you meant. Relatively recently developed by the slaves of afro brazilian origin. It was camoeflaged as a dance because fighting training wasn't allowed at ranches which held slaves. The acrobatic and flashy dance allowed the dancers to train the body for future escapes.
I imagine indiginous martial arts in the realms to be a lot more dirty and as a less flashy type of fighting style. Harnessing Ki(your connection to the weave)-like abilities could be explained by practitioners as feeling and following the flow of a brawl. This encourages the wise approuch that the concept of monks have.
Certain supernatural abilities of monks are a bit of a pain to explain in a pseudomedieval fantasy setting. The same problem of psionics. But the Invisible Art has a place in Faerun and monks do as well so maybe they tap a little into their psionic potential to achieve their high level abilities. The 20th level outsider type change gives dr/magic, something psi powers could emulate. |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 24 Nov 2006 : 00:27:21
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
I am not mappy about the idea about monks in Ferun. I see monks as an asian type of priest, and dont understand whey they decided that they had to come to ferun? What will be next, a wujen mage guild in Comyr. And now we have a Thay enclave in Scardale ? Sorry i just dont understand whey they had to mix it all. In my game (I am DM), monks come from the Kara-tur region, not from hardlands, and The Red Wizards of Thay are from Thay!
I think Hammer has a point there by suggesting that the FR monks need not be stereotypical Shaolin/Kung-Fu-movie type martial artists. There is nothing in the rules to label them as priests or particularly religious. I have tried to imagine them using a combination of boxing (and kicking ;) and meditation (ki). IMHO they are more like philosophical and mysterious warriors, specializing in unarmed combat - in the same way that fighters specialize in weapons (but with different features :) Perhaps their fighting style does not really differ a lot from kick-boxing - they just try to maximize their physical and mental capabilities (i.e. learn to strike at the most vulnerable spots, learn to strike quickly and effectively while using your whole body's strength behind the blow, etcetera). I have also imagined that the Sneak Attack -class feature is also based on this.
BTW, there is a monk from Calimshan statted in the FRCS. Maybe their origin lies in that direction, hey? |
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MerrikCale
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Posted - 24 Nov 2006 : 02:31:40
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Originally posted by Bladewind
Capoeira is the afrobrazilian martial art you meant. Relatively recently developed by the slaves of afro brazilian origin. It was camoeflaged as a dance because fighting training wasn't allowed at ranches which held slaves. The acrobatic and flashy dance allowed the dancers to train the body for future escapes.
That is it exactly. Thank you. Its very unlike Asian martial arts |
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Bladewind
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Posted - 24 Nov 2006 : 15:28:47
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Capoeira is the afrobrazilian martial art you meant. Relatively recently developed by the slaves of afro brazilian origin. It was camoeflaged as a dance because fighting training wasn't allowed at ranches which held slaves. The acrobatic and flashy dance allowed the dancers to train the body for future escapes.
That is it exactly. Thank you. Its very unlike Asian martial arts
No problem. I practised this beautiful sport for 3 years now, it really feels great to do sideflips and somersaults :) It's very fast and kick oriented. The similarities with asian martial arts are hidden behind the circular attack movements and the dancing stance(ginga) you learn to perform the the dance with a fellow capoeirista (joga di capoeira). The techniques for kicks and sweeps are very much like regular asian martial arts but you learn to time them with your ginga and to use momentum. It still remains mostly a dance with things like particular evasive footwork and rules for engagement. That doesn't mean you cant kick the hell out of any karateka though 
So wherever martial arts are formed, optimizing kick and handsrtrikes will result in similarly employed techniques. Fearunians are bound to have their own rich traditional pugilistic or kick oriented fighting styles |
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Kuje
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Posted - 26 Nov 2006 : 05:44:48
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There is nothing in the rules to label them as priests or particularly religious.
I'm going to have to disagree with that part. Take a look through Faiths & Pantheons, and various other sourcebooks, like there's a drow monk order in Underdark that is connected to Lloth, and ya'll see that many of the monk orders are connected to a deity or deities. |
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Gray Richardson
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Posted - 26 Nov 2006 : 17:19:23
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Monks were big in Europe in the Middle Ages. As inspirations I think of The Name of the Rose and the Cadfael episodes of Mystery for you PBS watchers. Then of course there was Friar Tuck of Robin Hood's band of merry men; he was always portrayed as kind of a brawler.
Now, true, fighting prowess was not something you generally associate with European monks, but in a fantasy world of secluded monasteries beset by orcs and evil warlords and dragons, it is only natural that monks would need to develop some skills to defend themselves.
IIRC, Friar Tuck always seemed to use a beer stein as his monk weapon. I am surprised that D&D monks have not developed some other unique fighting styles. I would love to see dwarven monks who used battle steins and manouevers such as blinding spray, flaming spit take and belch of thunder.  Even if they just used some style based on hammers, I think dwarven monks could be very, very cool.  |
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The Sage
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 00:12:24
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
There is nothing in the rules to label them as priests or particularly religious.
I'm going to have to disagree with that part. Take a look through Faiths & Pantheons, and various other sourcebooks, like there's a drow monk order in Underdark that is connected to Lloth, and ya'll see that many of the monk orders are connected to a deity or deities.
Indeed.
Additionally, the Faiths & Pantheons web enhancement details other deity-based monk orders.
See here:- http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20020504a
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Bladewind
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 01:59:10
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
There is nothing in the rules to label them as priests or particularly religious.
I'm going to have to disagree with that part. Take a look through Faiths & Pantheons, and various other sourcebooks, like there's a drow monk order in Underdark that is connected to Lloth, and ya'll see that many of the monk orders are connected to a deity or deities.
Indeed.
Additionally, the Faiths & Pantheons web enhancement details other deity-based monk orders.
See here:- http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20020504a
Wow, very nice! The Order of the Changeless Face is my favorite from this list. Beating down change with feet and fist, love it!
The Brotherhood of the Scarlet Scourge are downright scary with their creepy nails and their god Yutrus...
One could match some feat and skill choices to the styles of Fearun's monk orders; the offensive orders would favor feats like cleave and powerattack, the defensive ones disarm and expertise. Their was a dragon magazine with lots of style choices cant remeber whcih one.
Oh and which order follows under Lolths guidence? |
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 02:18:14
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Oh and which order follows under Lolths guidence?
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MerrikCale
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 02:18:15
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There is nothing in the rules to label them as priests or particularly religious.
I'm going to have to disagree with that part. Take a look through Faiths & Pantheons, and various other sourcebooks, like there's a drow monk order in Underdark that is connected to Lloth, and ya'll see that many of the monk orders are connected to a deity or deities.
But they are not by definition, deity-based. I agree that in most instances they are |
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Kuje
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 02:20:43
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But they are not by definition, deity-based. I agree that in most instances they are
By whose definition? If they are connected to the churches/deities, then they are deity based. And most monk orders in FR are connected to churches and deities. |
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MerrikCale
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 02:23:05
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And most monk orders in FR are connected to churches and deities.
Like I said, most monk orders are deity based. Just not all. Monk orders do not have to be tied to a particular church. |
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 02:27:40
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And most monk orders in FR are connected to churches and deities.
Like I said, most monk orders are deity based. Just not all. Monk orders do not have to be tied to a particular church.
Okay and? I never said all, I said most and many, more then once. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 03:52:14
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Originally posted by MerrikCale
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
There is nothing in the rules to label them as priests or particularly religious.
I'm going to have to disagree with that part. Take a look through Faiths & Pantheons, and various other sourcebooks, like there's a drow monk order in Underdark that is connected to Lloth, and ya'll see that many of the monk orders are connected to a deity or deities.
But they are not by definition, deity-based. I agree that in most instances they are
Well, if they're acting under orders from a particular church itself, or just consider themselves as an "arm" of the church hierarchy, then it's likely most monk orders have some connection to either the deity or the church they serve. The Zealots of the Written Word, who are connected with the clergies of Deneir, may fall into this category.
Some orders may not even have a true connection to any particular church or clergy of the deity they worship, and instead consider themselves mortal expressions of their god's power in the Realms -- such as the Disciples of the Phoenix, who follow Kossuth.
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LucianBarasu
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 23:08:10
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Been Dming since 1ed. Have seen the monks go "poofy" in 2ed and wondered why.
I asked my players opinions and they agreed that oriental/asian style monks
who are xerox copies of david carradine don't belong in western medieval /fantasy.
All agreed but one.
IF you go back, and I mean WAY back, Oghma had one particular portfolio... wrestling.
He was into athletics and wrestling, and I am sure all his monks didn't wear chain and steel and hide behind shields. I am sure you could work out a sect of Oghma clerics that fit into the MONK slot.
With 3.5 and that portoflio dissapearing off Oggie's list, Its logical why Faerun and Kara-Tur are seperated. If people want to play a monk in my campaign, they have to give me a DETAILED explanation why they got past the Horde and got over than "little thing" I like to call the Dragonwall. They don't fit in Faerun. But just because it looks like timing to have the Monk slip into FR from 1st ed. before 2nd ed came out, I think it is acvtually more a reason of Location, not edition printing.
As far as your question, You can merge the classic Kung fu Monk with an offshoot or "Faerunian Westernization" of Oghma's lost Portfolio. That's how I got around it.
i.e. Kelemvor's clergy has to have defenders of temples. And isn't it true, that monks call their "KI" life force, Life=opposit= death, Kelmvor's monks use KI to stop undead.. etc...
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Lathander's clergy sometimes practice the use of unarmed combat, and build up their "KI" which you can have give off useless kight when used, which emulated ability to "shannel the Morninglord" with KI..
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At very young age, selceted few cleric of [insert god here] are sent over or through to kara-Tur to study focusing their Ki for their god, their gift of prayer is manifested in gifts as their KI...
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 23:46:46
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Interesting topic. Both of the monks I've created so far are religious (one follows Lathander, the other Eilistraee...oh yeah, and they are both petite elven ladies ). But remember that there are different ways (and different degrees of being) "religious". Perhaps some monks are quasi-priests, and perhaps others aren't so overtly pious. |
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Posted - 28 Nov 2006 : 00:31:28
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Perhaps some monks are quasi-priests...
I would tend to think this is sometimes how the Zealots of the Written Word are viewed by outsiders... since the monks often engage in some of the activities of the clergy of Deneir themselves.
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Posted - 28 Jul 2007 : 16:28:17
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I, personally speaking, think that the "monk issue" fall in the point that Ed always show to us: Faerūn is not the Europe, and don“t have any obligation to behave like Europe.
And there it is... I never understood how elves, ogres and dragons could be tolerated but the monk class is WAAAAAAY out of place.  |
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
I am not mappy about the idea about monks in Ferun. I see monks as an asian type of priest, and dont understand whey they decided that they had to come to ferun? What will be next, a wujen mage guild in Comyr. And now we have a Thay enclave in Scardale ? Sorry i just dont understand whey they had to mix it all. In my game (I am DM), monks come from the Kara-tur region, not from hardlands, and The Red Wizards of Thay are from Thay!
As others have pointed out there are many different styles one can use in the monk class. They don't have to flip around or do high kicks. If you want to "westernize" the monk feel free. Turn them into a bar fighter or a body guard or an spy. Just keep in mind... Faerun is NOT Europe. |
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