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createvmind
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Posted - 08 May 2012 :  15:36:24  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Hello All,

ED in your realms mindseye, would surviving a psionic attack be one of the most common ways for the survivor to manifest or unlock psionic power themselves? Also in your realms, is there anything illithids fear generally, are allergic too, causes them severe pain, discomfort?

I assume that any gathering of undead near illithid community is met with swift force, a whelming of thralls to evict the undead, would this be a general response? Are very powerful undead near illithid community constantly harassed or once a number of thralls are lost will community move itself? I've always wondered if Illithids have developed a certain warrior class to combat undead and constructs in particular.

Thank you
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Markustay
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I was just doing some research to prove a point - a point I no longer care about - and came across some things in various sources that when put-together are rather interesting.

Phaerimm used Arcane energy almost like a food source. They did NOT create magic-dead zones like I thought, but rather, drained magics from sources, which means they need active magic to survive - a dead magic zone would leave them in worse shape then it would a normal mage.

This behavior is not unlike Elminster (and The Simbul) in the 4e era.

Could Phaerimm somehow be whats left of a race with Chosen-like powers? That whatever fire/weave/etc they once fed off of is gone, and now they are stuck feeding off whatever they can find?

How is it possible sharn-magic is effective against them (The Sharnwall)? As far as I know, the only magic that they have trouble with is shadow-magic. I haven't finished RotAW yet, so if the answer lies within, my apologies.

Shar seemed convinced her Weave could survive without Mytsra's Weave, despite prophesy to the contrary - what made her think she could still achieve a victory? Does this have anything to do with mortal belief/faith/perception?

Did you have anything to with the lore provided in the final three super-modules released in 3e? Specifically, the stuff surrounding Auguthra? Was it at least based upon stuff you had worked-out? Are shadow-shards pieces of the Black Star?

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Originally posted by createvmind

Also in your realms, is there anything illithids fear generally, are allergic too, causes them severe pain, discomfort?
In The Illithiad, it says they fear undead, because they move silently and their infravision cannot detect them (undead are 'room temperture'). However, 3e got rid of Infravision, so YMMV.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 08 May 2012 17:52:42
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Dennis
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So they also fear the undead version of their kind---the illithiliches? Given that certain kind of undead still have some semblance of a mind, shouldn't illithids still be able to detect and control them?

Every beginning has an end.
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Markustay
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Nope - undead are immune to psionics (at least they were in 2e). IIRC, Illithids can't even mentally perceive Undead because of that.

Sorry for the side-tangent, mods. Perhaps I should ask another question -

Where does the energy for the weave itself come from? is it the body of the goddess, and is Silver Fire the physical embodiment of that? (sort of like blood is in a mortal.) If 'Mystra IS the Weave' holds true, then wouldn't they need a power-source to rebuild her? Or is all that energy still present, just not 'contained'?

yeah... I know... a doozy of a spur-of-the-moment query. I'm not really expecting an answer, other then 'NDA'.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay


Where does the energy for the weave itself come from?


Midichlorians.

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createvmind
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Posted - 09 May 2012 :  19:16:13  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Well will add that, Ed in your realms, who continues to have infravision? Smile.
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 09 May 2012 :  19:28:05  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Markustay, Ed has answered that one scores of times, so I can easily remember his replies well enough to paraphrase:

The Weave is ONE way of harnessing all of the innate energies of the world: wind, tidal, solar, kinetic, convection/heat, gravity, combustion, waterflow, magnetic, et al. It is powered and renewed by all of these energies continually flowing through it. A constant huge stream of them, so vast that it seems endless/inexhaustible. The Weave itself is a network of usually-invisible linkages, made up of Mystra/Azuth/Savras/Lurue/elven deitis of magic/Velsharoon? (the divine fire, akin to silver fire), and "anchored" by beings (the Chosen) who have silver fire within them, and servitors of Mystra who are bound to places ("place spirits") that are centers ("nodes") of the same energies that make up the silver fire. The simplified metaphor for the Weave is a gigantic invisible silver net or irregular mesh, but it's far more complex than that. (However, just as many drivers couldn't fix most problems with their cars, and have varying degrees of "general ideas" of how their car works, most spellcasters can think of the Weave as a net and cast spells and never need to delve deeper.)


There. So saith me, channeling Ed. That's the quick-n-dirty (my favourite style ) version of the Weave. So yes, Mystra is the Weave, and yes, all that energy is always there; the Weave is a way of channeling its flows (not "containing" it, until you're speaking of spells, which do snatch a bottleful of Weave energy and allow it to be transported and then unleashed later as a specific effect).
The Weave, BTW, is subtly everchanging,and so is the way the most enlightened beings think of it.
love,
THO
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Markustay
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Posted - 09 May 2012 :  19:50:50  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Ahhhh, okay. got it.

Didn't think I could get a deeper understanding of what the Weave is until now - I guess my metaphor of magic being the 'electricity of the fantasy genre' is apt, because it seems to have many of the same power-sources (wind, tidal, hydro, geothermal, etc).

Hmmmmm... the connection/comparison may even go deeper - many folks think electricity is 'alive'.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 10 May 2012 17:46:26
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NineCoronas
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I have a question Mr. Greenwood.

I am designing a module for Neverwinter Nights and wrote an in-character "Volo's Guide to the Lluirwood" and would love for you to take a look at it to see what you think, and possibly if you have time, offer some suggestions on making it more in line with the Volo's Guide series.

If this interests you, let me know and I will send you the document (It's only five pages in MS office).

Thanks in advance!

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay


Where does the energy for the weave itself come from?


Midichlorians.

And Maxichlorians came from the Shadow Weave. Hehe...

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Markustay
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I hated that plot device. It was also stolen - read The Starchild Trilogy. Mediclorines = Fusorians.

For a guy who sued a lot of people back in the day, he sure did 'borrow' quite a bit himself.

I don't like George Lucas and I don't care for SW - he took what others had been writing for a century, boiled it down to the lowest common denominators, and applied modern technology (special effects) to it. A genius he is not; a good businessman, definitely.

New (related) question for Ed:
Is the Elemental Maelstrom (both the original state of the universe and its new incarnation) an example of a region where there is NO Weave/web/magical interface? In your opinion, of course, since I know that falls slightly outside your purview (I can't quite figure out where core ends, and FR begins in 4e).

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Steven Schend
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Posted - 11 May 2012 :  01:55:37  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay


Where does the energy for the weave itself come from?


Midichlorians.

And Maxichlorians came from the Shadow Weave. Hehe...



Trying not to hate you both, because this 10-day-old little girl in my arms doesn't need to be exposed to such venomous energy....

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Eli the Tanner
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Posted - 11 May 2012 :  02:42:32  Show Profile  Visit Eli the Tanner's Homepage Send Eli the Tanner a Private Message
Hello thar' Ed and his enduring medium, The Hooded One.

My question is:

Timekeeping and the 'civilized' societies of the Underdark. How does it work, if at all?

Now that's out there, I'll push on into the gravy-like queries and seasonings that hope to round out the dish beyond mere necessity.

I've found scant lore on time-keeping among societies in the Underdark and have generally developed various off-the-cuff answers to the players questions. Often I've had cultures that didn't have much concept of time, for instance one tribe of Stone Giants marked significant events in pictograms around their caves (the more space pictures of a particular event took up, the longer they lasted) but had little understanding about how long it has been between events. Do primitive cultures of the Underdark bother marking events or do most simply "live in the present", relying on elders to pass on stories.

However, such ignorance doesn't seem plausible when it comes to developed societies like Drow or Duergar where organisiation and large-scale co-ordination are much more important. Do all drow city's have a Norbondel? What about places like Maerimydra which had greater links with the surface, would they have scouts keeping tabs on the passage of the sun?

Any and all information on this rather beshadowed topic will be heartily gobbled up.

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rodrigoalcanza
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I have a question for Ed or someone who can answer (so no need to bother Ed).

The mortals of the Realms have known of the divine hierarchy (Great Power, Intermediate Power, Lesser Power, Demipower and Quasi-powers)?

Thanks!
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crazedventurers
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Posted - 11 May 2012 :  23:55:39  Show Profile  Visit crazedventurers's Homepage Send crazedventurers a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by rodrigoalcanza
The mortals of the Realms have known of the divine hierarchy (Great Power, Intermediate Power, Lesser Power, Demipower and Quasi-powers)?

Thanks!



I would say yes but in a vague way. That is ordinary people would have an idea of who the powerful gods are and also that some gods serve others so therefore are probably less powerful (so Torm and Ilmater serve Tyr - Tyr is therefore to mortals the greater god and the other two 'lesser' gods).

I am sure they would also recognise local deities as demi-powers though they may not call them that,(i.e. Shiallia, the various beast cults, sword cults, Gwaeron Windstrom etc) and understand that their area of influence is quite small compared to the power of Lathander who rises up every morning across the whole of Faerun.

Hope this helps

Cheers

Damian
ps I am also sure that the priests of the deities all claim that their god is more powerful that what it actually is and that their god outranks this and that other god and tell the common folk to disbelieve the lies spread by the others and embrace the truth of their god

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
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Therise
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay


Where does the energy for the weave itself come from?


Midichlorians.

And Maxichlorians came from the Shadow Weave. Hehe...



Aaaaannnnd... tenebrous means dark/shadowy, so Shar is Tenebrous's Mom! ("I am your mother!"... "NOooooOOOoo!")

Therefore, Darth Tenebrous = Mask.

Q.E.D.



4E Realms was awful, but it's water under the Boareskyr Bridge. Let's make 5E Realms truly shine!
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Therise

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay


Where does the energy for the weave itself come from?


Midichlorians.

And Maxichlorians came from the Shadow Weave. Hehe...



Aaaaannnnd... tenebrous means dark/shadowy, so Shar is Tenebrous's Mom! ("I am your mother!"... "NOooooOOOoo!")

Therefore, Darth Tenebrous = Mask.

Q.E.D.
I see someone has been reading up on their Plagueis-lore, eh?

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Therise
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Therise

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay


Where does the energy for the weave itself come from?


Midichlorians.

And Maxichlorians came from the Shadow Weave. Hehe...



Aaaaannnnd... tenebrous means dark/shadowy, so Shar is Tenebrous's Mom! ("I am your mother!"... "NOooooOOOoo!")

Therefore, Darth Tenebrous = Mask.

Q.E.D.
I see someone has been reading up on their Plagueis-lore, eh?



Ties together with the *(cough)* SpellPlagueis as well.

Feel free to groan, heh!


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Markustay
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Something tells me authors should not write for both IPs.

The cross-pollination is unsettling.

New Question:
Is there something like this in FR? Not precisely the midichlorian thing - more like some innate ability that some are born with, like Spellfire, the Incipient Clans, and even Elminster? Perhaps a natural psionic gift, which is actually the ability to access certain parts of the brain humans normally can't? Obviously, this is something that can be 'bred for' (in SotM), but can it also be gifted, or 'awakened'? Or is it truly more like midichlorines, except instead of being a physical (microscopic symbiote) thing, its more like a metaphysical 'virus' - something a person can get or has, that can become stronger, and attract magical energies the way a magnet does ferrous material? In other words, does it come from within, or is it something foreign and introduced into humanity?

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The Hooded One
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Hi again, all. I just got an e-mail from Ed responding to these queries, from scribe Jeremy: "The article got me to thinking about rival establishments in Waterdeep deciding to set up their own actively haunted doors or rooms, to get a slice of some of the Inn of the Dripping Dagger’s business.
On average, would you say it’s more likely inn owners would:
1)Look to acquire (by theft or purchase) haunted doors or items of furniture from other parts of Waterdeep?
2)Send adventurers or other agents into Undermountain to find, remove and haul back up haunted doors or objects?
3)Hire spellcasters or even priests to bind minor hauntings to objects already to be found at the Inn?
Or is it safer to say all of these gambits will be tried, by one or more inn owners looking to drum up business? Are there any other tactics besides these that come immediately to mind?"
Ed replies:

Certainly. The most popular tactic would be to "stage" a dramatic haunting (done by affordable middling-level mages visiting the city and contract-bonded to keep quiet about what they've done) to get local rumors going - - which should do the rest, if the incident is dramatic enough and at least one socially-active local personage is present to witness/experience it.
All of the tactics you mention have been tried, and still are from time to time, but there are drawbacks to all of them:
For Number 1: You're acquiring "old hat" hauntings that may have been used to engage the public before, and word may get around that they were shadily acquired (if they were).
For Number 2: Usually more expensive than effective - - unless you also concoct a dramatic story about why adventurers need go down into Undermountain (perhaps to "lay" the ghost by fulfilling its unfinished business/getting revenge in Skullport, or some such; bringing sad love matters to a happy end is especially popular).
For Number 3: Expense, plus the possibility of word getting out about was done (from the hired spellcasters, if they're local residents). If discretion and "grabbing" results can be assured, this can be very effective. Nobles do it often, because the cachet of having LOTS of the "right sort of" hauntings (eccentric spectral serving-jacks, haughty female ancestors who sweep majestically about, spectacularly clad, etc.) in their Waterdhavian mansions is highly prized.
I hope this is of help.


So saith Ed. Who will get to replying to you about The Storm Bird when he can (he is frantically busy writing right now).
love,
THO
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Jeremy Grenemyer
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quote:
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I hope this is of help.
Absolutely of help!

Especially your reply to my third question. It never occurred to me that nobles of Waterdeep might actually cultivate hauntings so as to be more awesome than their peers. That's pretty cool.

Thanks Ed and THO.

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Veritas
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A couple [voluminous] more questions about memory stealing (relating to my kiira questions of the previous week).

Ed, you mentioned that acquiring memories don't by themselves confer power. The discipline to use the power has to be developed.
If I remember correctly, in Cloak of Shadows, you wrote that some version of Midnight, absorbed Elminster's memories becoming "old and wise" in something along a 24 hour period. (As an aside, Midnight displayed very Mystra-like powers during that scene of the Time of Troubles. Was this the newly risen Mystra time travelling?) Ahem. Midnight's memory was subsequently erased by Ao who said that the memories would return to her in time. When the memories returned, how long did it take the nascent goddess to master the knowledge and power in Elminster’s memories? Could she also have performed a similar process to gain the memories in a kiira/selu’kiira? Could a vengeful elven demigod (Shevarash) absorb and master the powers of an ancient selu’kiira, and if so, how long would it take him to master the high magic art contained within? Relatedly, did the memory sharing between Midnight and Elminster have to be consensual? If a darkly inclined witch had assumed Mystra’s mantle, could she just seize those memories?

Also, did Mystra court any other wizards for their memories? Whom, if any?

Immediately following Elminster and Midnight’s scene in Cloak of Shadows, you had Elminster battle a mage (the “Masked One”) who developed a spell that allowed him to subsume the power of his defeated foes. You noted that the Masked One was stalking avatars (“Hoar”) to gain the power to overthrow Szass Tam. Presumably, and please correct me on this, his spell would have worked on the Avatar as indicated by Ao himself taking notice and intervening indirectly by hurling Elminster at the mage and his golem.
Although “subsuming power” is imprecise, the Masked One’s narrative had him complain of his failure to defeat Elminster, that Elminster’s memory AND mastery should have been “flowing into him”. This seems to indicate that there was at least one way, via Art for a mortal to a degree acquire knowledge and power in Art, with the discipline to use it, rapidy if not simultaneously. Had he defeated an Elminster-like mage as presumably El’s memories and powers were protected by Mystra’s blessings, did you intend that the Masked One could have gained his full power and mastery?

Any news on Sharantyr, Belkram, and Itharr ( and Sharantyr’s child) which isn’t NDA?

Lastly I would like to thank whoever first came up with this quote from Spellfire (be it Ed or one of his players). If this quote violates the terms of service, please edit it out, good moderators.

Torm: "Wizards! Wherever one sees battle there's some attending dweomer crafter jabbering and waving his hands. Honest sword swingers fall doomed - slain by a man in a lady's gown too craven to stand against them."

I don't know what it is about that line which has given me so much joy and mirth over the many years but this stands my favorite line in all the Realms.

Edited by - Veritas on 12 May 2012 20:22:16
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Jeremy Grenemyer
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Hello Ed and THO.

More Deepspawn questions, if I may:

Can Deepspawn consume another Deepspawn’s spawn? (Say that ten times really fast.)

That is, are spawn sufficient to use as a template to create more of the same creature? Or can Deepspawn only replicate non-spawn?

If the later, can Deepspawn consume the spawn of another of its kind to use as raw materials, if nothing else?

Or do Deepspawn have a natural aversion to the spawn created by others of their kind? Are the spawn of one Deepspawn toxic to another Deepspawn? Have Deepspawn ever tried to poison/kill each other this way?

Can they sense that a creature was created by another Deepspawn?

If yes, how refined is this ability? If a group of spawn are bunched together in a small room, could a Deepspawn tell which of the spawn belonged to which masters? If yes, is this an ability that comes with age?

Do spawn from different Deepspawn have an aversion to each other? Or is that dependent on the relationship (if any) between two Deepspawn?

Lastly, do Deepspawn have a name for their race? Is it pronounceable? If yes, do they have a name for their spawn too?

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crazedventurers
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quote:
Originally posted by Veritas

Also, did Mystra court any other wizards for their memories? Whom, if any?

Immediately following Elminster and Midnight’s scene in Cloak of Shadows, you had Elminster battle a mage (the “Masked One”) who developed a spell that allowed him to subsume the power of his defeated foes. You noted that the Masked One was stalking avatars (“Hoar”) to gain the power to overthrow Szass Tam.



I will second the first question above! I too would be interested to know about other wizards that have had a special relationship with Mystra, (names only would be great am sure we can make up the extent of their realtionship).

re the second point: I assumed the Masked One was Velsharoon the renegade archmage of Thay who went a-hunting for powerful adventuring types to complete the Talos inspired ritual to turn him into a demi-god (original clack from Polyhedron 55 and Halls of the High King). Though he is known as Velsharoon the Vaunted as well?

I also assumed that was he was doing was using a variant of the 7th level spell: 'Stealspell' originally published in Dragon magazine 90 as part of the Incantatrix class designed by Ed himself (updated for 2E in Cult of the Dragon sourcebook and then for 3.x as well). I assume a variant as he was attempting to take more than just a single spell from El's mind.

I too would love to know more about the Masked One and whether Art can be learned more quickly by stealing the memories of others.

Cheers

Damian
ps a random thought about the Masked One, could it be the same Masked One who taught El in Myth Drannor all those years ago?

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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Veritas
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crazedventurers, I never made the (Cloak of Shadows) Masked One - Velsharoon connection. Brilliant! Although from the description Ed painted of the spell(s0 the Masked One was using, the memory and mastery indicated to me that he was stealing class levels and other powers. He was also looking to seize the power of an avatar who may not be a spellcaster in the wizardly sense.

I doubt the Masked One is related to El's former teacher. This one is the guise adopted by the Thayan necromancer as a show that he "lost power" in order trick his rivals into attacking him. He would then slay them on his home ground to subsume their power.

Edited by - Veritas on 13 May 2012 13:39:17
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