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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 28 Feb 2007 : 13:16:25
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I just prepaid my LGS for my copy coming out next month. Last night he informed me that the blamed thing won't be available until March 21! Hell, they shoulda put April '07 on the product guide, that way I would be happy that I'm getting it early!
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 28 Feb 2007 : 17:14:48
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Since the Power of Faerūn debacle, my FLGS has had an excellent track record for getting the new stuff in on time. And, since he emails notice about new releases, I just have to wait for the email.  |
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
762 Posts |
Posted - 03 Mar 2007 : 21:01:10
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Originally posted by WalkerNinja
the blamed thing won't be available until March 21!
Lucky you! I have to wait for it to be released in the UK first then I have to order it from my LGS (London Games Store) and wait for TPG, the Dutch post to deliver.
I'm sure it'll be worth the wait though. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2007 : 02:35:47
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The grossly mispelled art gallery is up
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ag/20070307a
and you thought them mispelling Llira was bad wait until you see this |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2007 : 02:42:07
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Corymyr? |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2007 : 03:00:02
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For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
762 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2007 : 09:01:08
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Uzzy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
618 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2007 : 12:46:55
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| Mispellings aside, it seems odd that there's so little art up! Its about the same number of pictures as The Twilight Tomb, which of course was a 32 page adventure, while Corymyr weighs in at 160 pages. City of the Spider Queen managed to fill three pages in it's art gallery. Let's hope there's some more art put up soon (along with proper spelling!) |
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turox
Learned Scribe
USA
145 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2007 : 19:00:05
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Well at least now we might have a possible nickname for the newest member of the Azoun family. Cory. LOL  |
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
USA
573 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2007 : 23:11:06
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2007 : 23:50:16
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Ironically, the proper spelling of a word used a couple of times in this thread is "misspell".
The art gallery does seem kinda sparse for such a large page count... |
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
USA
573 Posts |
Posted - 09 Mar 2007 : 00:22:08
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Ironically, the proper spelling of a word used a couple of times in this thread is "misspell".
The art gallery does seem kinda sparse for such a large page count...
note how I deftly avoided using that word by asking for words to be "spelled correctly." |
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Uzzy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
618 Posts |
Posted - 09 Mar 2007 : 00:25:03
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Corymyr has 10 pictures up, which is tiny for a 160 Hardback Adventure. When Compared to Sons of Gruumsh (8 pics, 32 Pages) and Twilight Tomb (7 Pics, 32 Pages), you come away with the feeling that somethings wrong (and not just with the spelling!) As I mentioned before, CoTSQ has 43 pics up.
I do hope that the tome itself has more pictures in it! Although, I think we can give WOTC the benefit of the doubt here and guess that there will be lots more in the tome proper. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 09 Mar 2007 : 04:29:12
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Ironically, the proper spelling of a word used a couple of times in this thread is "misspell".
The art gallery does seem kinda sparse for such a large page count...
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
762 Posts |
Posted - 09 Mar 2007 : 10:04:43
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Originally posted by Uzzy
Corymyr has 10 pictures up, which is tiny for a 160 Hardback Adventure. When Compared to Sons of Gruumsh (8 pics, 32 Pages) and Twilight Tomb (7 Pics, 32 Pages), you come away with the feeling that somethings wrong (and not just with the spelling!) As I mentioned before, CoTSQ has 43 pics up.
You can't help but wonder if the page count is much smaller than they say. After all the Twilight Tomb was vaunted as being possessed of a greater number of pages then it actually had. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 09 Mar 2007 : 16:18:28
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
2066 Posts |
Posted - 09 Mar 2007 : 16:28:09
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
The previews for this month on WOTC's site specifically mention that these are large hardcover adventures. I can't imagine that they would make the book a hardcover with a pagecount similar to "Twilight Tomb."
Unless things have radically changed after I saw the text, this is a big adventure.
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
762 Posts |
Posted - 10 Mar 2007 : 06:45:47
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
The previews for this month on WOTC's site specifically mention that these are large hardcover adventures. I can't imagine that they would make the book a hardcover with a pagecount similar to "Twilight Tomb."
True.
This is where being stuck in the backwaters of Europe is advantageous though. I can wait for what our North American friends say about the book before it even arrives in the stores over here. |
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Love is Hate
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
892 Posts |
Posted - 10 Mar 2007 : 23:24:43
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Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
The previews for this month on WOTC's site specifically mention that these are large hardcover adventures. I can't imagine that they would make the book a hardcover with a pagecount similar to "Twilight Tomb."
True.
This is where being stuck in the backwaters of Europe is advantageous though. I can wait for what our North American friends say about the book before it even arrives in the stores over here.
While that's useful for something I'm unsure about, it can be very annoying if there's something I know I'll be purchasing. I'm happy to wait for this though, as I just can't see when I'd get a chance to run such an adventure, so I'll wait and see what others have to say. |
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NiTessine
Acolyte
Finland
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Posted - 10 Mar 2007 : 23:37:30
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Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
This is where being stuck in the backwaters of Europe is advantageous though. I can wait for what our North American friends say about the book before it even arrives in the stores over here.
From my point of view, being stuck in the backwaters of Europe is advantageous, because we get this stuff before Americans.
The book is really light on art, since the encounters are laid out in the new delve format.
I haven't yet had time to study the adventure in depth, but I can try to answer questions to the best of my ability. |
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Uzzy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
618 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2007 : 02:58:32
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So there are really only Ten pics in the whole book? Ouch..
By Delve Format, you mean the type used in Expedition to Castle Ravenloft, right? Or do you mean something else? Only other question I can think of is how much lore do we get in it? I recall something along the lines of a few articles at the back of the book being promised. Did they show up? Thanks in advance for the answers. |
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NiTessine
Acolyte
Finland
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Posted - 11 Mar 2007 : 07:00:33
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Ten illustrations. There are maps for every encounter, plus a bunch of larger maps.
Yeah, the delve format is the same as in Expedition to Castle Ravenloft.
There's a bit over four pages on southeastern Cormyr, Wheloon and the Vast Swamp at the back of the module, along with some crunchy bits. Magic items, mainly. |
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
762 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2007 : 07:07:45
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The format in Ravenloft was good. However, even that book had more illustrations.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ag/20061006b
I'm not saying illustrations maketh the book but they are something we've come to expect. The sages here have very rarely, in my time here, criticised artwork. |
Death is Life
Love is Hate
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boddynock
Learned Scribe
Belgium
258 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2007 : 10:16:46
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I have bought the book yesterday together with compendium magical items. I still have a good look in the book but my first expression was that there wasn't much art in the book.
I'm planning to play the adventure in the future when the other parts are out :) |
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Snotlord
Senior Scribe
Norway
476 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2007 : 12:32:15
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I'm waiting for my book (and MIC), and are still excited about the adventure from what I know about it. Artwork does not make or break a realms book for me (maps do, I am still not over the Serpent Kingdoms blunder). If the maps are ok, I can do without much artwork, although I miss Sam Wood and Todd Lockwood.
I am very much looking forward to running an adventure using the delve format, as I am currently trying to run Shakled City and are increasingly annoyed with the old adventure layout with stat blocks running over several pages. |
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Verghityax
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 11 Mar 2007 : 13:19:00
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Uzzy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
618 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2007 : 14:35:28
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Meh. Artwork brings a setting to life for me. Ten illustrations in 160 pages is a tiny number. I hope this isn't the start of a trend that will follow into the other adventure books this year.
The Delve format for adventures is great though. Good to see it being used more. Maps are always good too. The four pages of lore are a nice bonus. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2007 : 17:36:27
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Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
I'm not saying illustrations maketh the book but they are something we've come to expect. The sages here have very rarely, in my time here, criticised artwork.
I have. I've not liked most of the artwork we've gotten for the last several years. Most I simply don't like; it's not like I actively dislike it. However, there has been some stuff -- particularly recent and upcoming novel covers -- that I've actively disliked, or even loathed. |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 11 Mar 2007 17:37:46 |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2007 : 17:41:39
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I know I'm an old curmudgeon about this, but when it comes to a Realms product, I miss the black and white Valerie Valusek artwork. That having been said, there are some 3rd edition artists that I like, but I with that FR had a more unique "feel" as far as the artwork goes.
I know Ravenloft had more artwork, but its also a large adventure, so they had a little more room to play with. A lot of classic adventures and sourcebooks didn't have much art, so I'm okay with this, as I get the feeling that they lack of art is due to trying to get as much content as possible, which to me is a plus. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2007 : 18:32:07
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
I'm not saying illustrations maketh the book but they are something we've come to expect. The sages here have very rarely, in my time here, criticised artwork.
I have. I've not liked most of the artwork we've gotten for the last several years. Most I simply don't like; it's not like I actively dislike it. However, there has been some stuff -- particularly recent and upcoming novel covers -- that I've actively disliked, or even loathed.
I have in the past but I haven't in awhile since I tend to ignore the current art since it.... just doesn't speak to me. :) |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 11 Mar 2007 : 20:06:16
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Cant say there has been much in the way of art that appealed to me in the recent years. One or two things here and there that were OK, but nothing like that found in 1 and 2ed. Then again, I am a grumpy old nostalgic.
As for lack of illustrations, this gives place for more writing, so I would be glad to see that in future source books. |
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Cormyr: The Tearing of the Weave
