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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 17 May 2007 :  22:39:12  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion

quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen

Gods help me, I can't resist! -- aren't Bane and Bhaal the ultimate "god fathrs" in recent Realms history? (Okay, I have slapped myself. No one else needs to do so.)



"God fathrs"? (sorry, neither could I )



*sigh* That's what comes from reading too much Old High German before posting here. I have, of course, corrected the error in the original post. Thanks for keeping my spelling all good and proper.

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Zandilar
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Posted - 18 May 2007 :  01:40:45  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar
The term "consort" in the Realms. The word, IMHO, is terriby vague . . .
Deliberately so, I think. It's used to refer to intimate companions of important people without specifying whether they're married (and if so how), love each other, have sexual intercourse, and other matters which aren't the public's business.



Actually, I don't see why a ruler would want ambiguity at all in the matter of whom they are sharing a bed with. I'm sure they wouldn't want the general public thinking their friend or business associate is also sharing their bed, would they? And in matters of spouses, well why would they use the word "consort", when it's otherwise clear what this person is to them? Would a ruler really want that kind of ambiguity hindering their children's succession? Therefore I'm fairly sure that it would only be used when the context was quite clear. Here...

Consort can mean... a husband or wife, spouse. Especially of a reigning monarch. "The Queen's Consort."
Consort can mean... a companion, associate, or partner. "Robin is a consort of Batman."
Consort can mean (as a verb)... to associate; keep company. "David consorts with a gang called the Tiger Sharks."

Consort also has a few other meanings that we're not really concerned with here, because the word isn't really used in those contexts very often (ie: it can mean one ship or vessel accompaning another, or an agreement or accord, or to agree or harmonize).

Anyway, I hadn't looked at the FRCS quote in a while, just remembering the word consort standing out - now I remember why there was confusion... Here's the quote...

"Centuries of smuggling and intrigue cannot be undone in a decade, but those seeking dishonest deals now think twice before taking their business to Yanseldara's city, particularly since she leaves law enforcement to her consort and adventuring companion, Vaerana Hawklyn (CG female human Rgr20 of Mielikki)." - FRCS, pg 143.

Now you wouldn't say "companion and ... companion" in one sentance, but you might just say "associate and ... companion." This is where the confusion comes from... Personally my interpretation has always been a more intimate definition of consort, but I can see how others might just say it means "associate" in this context. Mind you, I suspect that at least some of those others would use the same interpretation I have if either Yanseldara or Vaerana was male.

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Phoebus
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Posted - 18 May 2007 :  05:52:08  Show Profile  Visit Phoebus's Homepage  Send Phoebus a Yahoo! Message Send Phoebus a Private Message
Again, if Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh, is properly known as Consort to Queen Elizabeth II... I don't see why it's any different for Yanseldara and Vaerana.
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Posted - 18 May 2007 :  06:57:34  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by Phoebus

To the Hooded One and, through her, Ed:

What do you see Merith Strongbow doing in a campaign that takes into account the events detailed in the "Last Mythal Trilogy"? Can you see Merith having much of a role in the newly rebuilt Myth Drannor?



I smell a strong smell of NDA on this one. :)



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Faraer
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Posted - 18 May 2007 :  21:34:56  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar
Personally my interpretation has always been a more intimate definition of consort . . .
Yes, I don't think 'consort' has been used in Realmslore for business partners -- it's not as ambiguous as that. It means roughly the same as 'partner' or 'lover' but with different shadings of connotation. For instance, people of high social status have consorts, and there's no assumption of permanency, as in 'Alustriel's latest consort'. In some places consort is an official status, and the role may have particular formal or informal expectations that vary locally. In cultures where legitimacy or inheritance or succession requires marriage, it would be made known if the person is a spouse, and 'consort' would be less likely to be used. At least, this seems to fit the word's use in print, though Ed may have more to add.
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 19 May 2007 :  19:21:48  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again, all. Ed has been horribly busy these last few days, but surfaced long enough to hurl one answer my way, for us all...
Zandilar recently posted (among other queries that Ed will deal with on other occasions): "The term "consort" in the Realms. The word, IMHO, is terriby vague, and has so many different meanings as to be almost useless except when the context is crystal clear. My question is: What is the most commonly accepted definition of the word in Abeir-Toril? What context is it usually used in? For example, FRCS describes Vaerana Hawklin as being Yanseldara's consort - does this mean that Vaerana is formally married to Yanseldara? Does it mean she's some kind of acknowledged lover/mistress? Or does it simply mean she's a friend/companion/associate? Most often, I've seen the term used in the context of a ruler's offical partner/spouse, which would imply in the case I mentioned, that Vaerana is formally married to Yanseldara. (I may have asked this question before, but my memory is flakey at the moment and my search-fu is conciderably weakened while I'm away from my own computer. That'll teach me for not putting "important" documents on my laptop when I'm uncertain of when I'll be back at my desktop computer!)"
Faraer weighed in on this matter, and Ed now replies:


In the Realms, we usually use "consort" in two ways: official consorts and unofficial consorts.
Unofficial means a sexual or at least "constant companion, dwelling together" relationship that is publicly known about, but is NOT a formal union.
Official means a formal union (marriage in faith or under civil law) of a noble, person of rank, or royalty that specifically does not imply that the "consort" can inherit the status of the person they are attached to (and in some cases, their heirs can't, either).
To cite a relevant real-world example, the British crown has long had the concept of morganatic marriages (offspring cannot ascend to the throne), and the current Prince Philip is a prince in his own right (of the royal family of Greece), but cannot claim the throne should his wife (the Queen, who IS Queen in her own right) predecease him. So he is "Prince Consort," in the same way that Albert, Queen Victoria's husband, was styled Prince Consort rather than "king." Vaerana stands in the same relationship to Yanseldara: they are married (and, yes, lovers), but Yanseldara is the rightful ruler and Vaerana has no claim to her position, should Yanseldara perish.
Zandilar, you are quite correct to say that the word 'consort' has "so many different meanings as to be almost useless except when the context is crystal clear." Sometimes in the past published Realmslore has been carelessly vague, sometimes editors have unintentionally introduced vagueness while rewriting for brevity, and sometimes we have been deliberately vague (for various reasons). I'll TRY not to be in future, but cannot promise (sorry), because I have no final control.


So saith Ed. Who is hip-deep in Realms-related projects (watch for that last print issue of DRAGON), but trying to stay in touch here at the Keep.
love to all,
THO
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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 19 May 2007 :  20:01:05  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hello again, all. Ed has been horribly busy these last few days, but surfaced long enough to hurl one answer my way, for us all...
Zandilar recently posted

(snip)

Faraer weighed in on this matter, and Ed now replies:


In the Realms, we usually use "consort" in two ways: official consorts and unofficial consorts.
Unofficial means a sexual or at least "constant companion, dwelling together" relationship that is publicly known about, but is NOT a formal union.
Official means a formal union (marriage in faith or under civil law) of a noble, person of rank, or royalty that specifically does not imply that the "consort" can inherit the status of the person they are attached to (and in some cases, their heirs can't, either).
To cite a relevant real-world example, the British crown has long had the concept of morganatic marriages (offspring cannot ascend to the throne), and the current Prince Philip is a prince in his own right (of the royal family of Greece), but cannot claim the throne should his wife (the Queen, who IS Queen in her own right) predecease him. So he is "Prince Consort," in the same way that Albert, Queen Victoria's husband, was styled Prince Consort rather than "king." Vaerana stands in the same relationship to Yanseldara: they are married (and, yes, lovers), but Yanseldara is the rightful ruler and Vaerana has no claim to her position, should Yanseldara perish.
Zandilar, you are quite correct to say that the word 'consort' has "so many different meanings as to be almost useless except when the context is crystal clear." Sometimes in the past published Realmslore has been carelessly vague, sometimes editors have unintentionally introduced vagueness while rewriting for brevity, and sometimes we have been deliberately vague (for various reasons). I'll TRY not to be in future, but cannot promise (sorry), because I have no final control.


So saith Ed. Who is hip-deep in Realms-related projects (watch for that last print issue of DRAGON), but trying to stay in touch here at the Keep.
love to all,
THO



Ed, would "consort" then be the answer to my query about what those who are bedded, but not wedded, are called. In 1358, would Laeral have been described as Khelben's "consort" in polite circles? What about impolite circles?


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Zandilar
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Posted - 21 May 2007 :  01:16:04  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

Passing along a question from those other forums... some regulars would like to know what the difference between the title Coronal and King/Queen are. They would also like to know anything you can tell us about what other royal/noble titles that are held by the elven people.

Thanks!

Zandilar
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 21 May 2007 :  20:50:56  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hail and well met, fellow scribes. Ed responds to Jamallo Kreen re. this: “Ed, would "consort" then be the answer to my query about what those who are bedded, but not wedded, are called. In 1358, would Laeral have been described as Khelben's "consort" in polite circles? What about impolite circles?”
Which is itself a followup to JK’s earlier post: “Well met! Ed, tell us, if you will, what the polite forms of address are in various lands for those who are openly bedded, but not wedded. For instance (and I use feminine forms solely because European languages are geared towards considering a female participant in a love {or sex} relationship as subordinate to a male): how does one introduce one's acknowledged mistress if one is known to be married to another person? How does one refer to one's live-in bed-partner and/or "significant other" if there's no likelihood that a marriage will ever occur (think Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell, happily unmarried for about three decades now, or Laeral and Khelben after the Crown of Horns business)? How does one address a social superior (or equal's) concubine (or anyone else who's more than a chit for the night and less than a claimant to community property)? Also important to Mistress Manners is: how are these various combinations addressed and referenced as a couple when they are not being presented separately? "The Lord and Lady Mages of Waterdeep" is pretty obvious, as would be "The Lord Mage Khelben and the Lady Mage Laeral," but there is surely some phraseology more polite than, "Her Royal Majesty, the Simbul of Aglarond ... and boy toy."
Ed, inquiringly polite minds want to know!”
Ed now replies:



A great variety of everchanging nomenclature is employed across the Realms for such individuals, of course (far too many for me to cover in this thread), but here’s the general approach: “lady” (especially when the person spoken of is NOT a titled “Lady”) can mean “sweetheart” or “long-beloved wife” or “fiancé” or “mistress”) and is ALWAYS considered polite unless delivered in a sneering tone of voice or coupled with impolite phrases (examples: “hog-rutting lady” or “she’ll be any beast’s lady for as long as it wants her”). So a formal introduction at Court or a feast or other formal social occasion would follow the lines of: “Amarathe, lady to Guildmaster Horold Draer” or “Magister Ulkryn Darkcastle and his lady, Aundra Othlomae” (note that it’s entirely up to Aundra whether her surname is given or not, and always remember that many folk in the Realms don’t have surnames). When speaking to Amarathe or Aundra, you would say “Lady” if you wanted to be polite. If Guildmaster Draer was callous (or lukcy!) enough to escort BOTH Amarathe and his wife, Oloena Draer to the same function, they would be introduced as “Guildmaster Horold Draer, his lady Oloena Draer, and his lady companion Amarathe.” If Amarathe was the lover of BOTH of the Draers, and all three of them wanted this publicly recognized, they would be introduced as “Guildmaster Horold Draer, his lady Oloena Draer, and their lady companion Amarathe.” This would be true of a servant announcing guests at a door, a courtier preparing a document or performing introductions, a herald speaking, and so on.
“Mistress” is a neutral, polite term, like saying “man” or “woman” or “shopkeeper” or “citizen.” Yes, “consort” is sometimes used as a polite equivalent, but it implies long-term dwelling together (“behaving as a married couple”) or even an announced tie (engagement, contract, or inheritance agreement, plus those situations where one person wants to produce an heir and finds an agreeable other person to provide either the sperm or the womb, but where that other person understands and legally undertakes that they will NOT have any inheritance rights, or control over the offspring). A shopkeeper who wanted to fawn over Amarathe might call her “Lady Amarathe,” but if he wanted to be stern with her (perhaps she handles and breaks wares but never buys, or is about to knock something over, or is tardy in paying) he might say briskly, “Mistress Amarathe!” (Note: he’s NOT trying to be rude by doing so.)
Remember, there’s no Victorian-style Judeo-Christian morality in the Realms; it’s not a “bad thing” to be a mistress - - or, in most places, a prostitute. (There is such a thing as being ‘bad at it,’ or needlessly ‘wanton’ or unclean, but that’s a different matter, however much insult-hurling goodwives or gossips may want to paint it otherwise.)
So in polite circles, in Waterdeep, Laeral would be termed Khelben’s “lady” rather than “wife” (but more often, because she’s “Lady Mage” in her own right and well-loved by the populace, either “Laeral,” “Lady Laeral” or “the Lady Mage of Waterdeep”). Most Waterdhavians would say, “I overheard Lady Laeral yestereve” or “Lady Laeral told me.”
In less polite circles, Laeral is referred to as everything from the neutral but informal “bedmate” to “plough-furrow” on down through “willing holes” and “waiting mouth” to far less printable and more explicit terms. :}



So saith Ed. Who warmed me up a bit at the end, there. What he says about being formally introduced is quite true; I recall a Realmsplay session at which two Knights of Myth Drannor were revealed when a tapestry fell during a feast, both nude and making love energetically, and the servant glided forward to calmly introduce them by name, and the term: “evident companions of the moment to each other.”
love to all (and frequently!),
THO
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Reefy
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Posted - 21 May 2007 :  22:41:14  Show Profile  Visit Reefy's Homepage  Click to see Reefy's MSN Messenger address Send Reefy a Private Message
Greetings to Ed and the Lady Hooded One, I have two questions.
What can you tell me about the famed Agannazar? I'm interested in his appearance, personality, mannerisms etc.
The same goes for the mysterious Mistmaster.
I have mined what little printed sources on the subjects I can find.

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Drew
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Posted - 21 May 2007 :  23:47:15  Show Profile  Visit Drew's Homepage Send Drew a Private Message
Ed,

One of my favorite pieces of the Realms is Nimbral, specifically the Nimbral Mage kit from second edition. Is there anything in 3.x that has anything more on this kit as a PrC or equivilant?

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The Hooded One
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Hi again, all. This time I bring you the words of Ed in response to Phoebus, re. this: “What do you see Merith Strongbow doing in a campaign that takes into account the events detailed in the "Last Mythal Trilogy"? Can you see Merith having much of a role in the newly rebuilt Myth Drannor?” (Kuje posted: “I smell a strong smell of NDA on this one. :)” and discussion then ensued on what an NDA actually smells like.
(“A man’s gotta ask!” indeed. ) Ed replies:



Indeed, to the NDA (and no, Kuje, NDAs actually smell like oiled cast iron, slammed down REAL close to the nose :} ).
What I can say, without going into overmuch detail, is: Merith was one of the many who harried Sarya’s marching armies with arrows, from the trees, whittling them down—and later raced north to prevent the ogres, orcs, flind, hobgoblins, and bugbears of the northern Moonsea from pouring south to take advantage of the strife (with the connivance of Zhentil Keep) and overwhelm the other cities of the Moonsea.



So saith Ed. Who is as usual busily cooking up new Realms goodies for us all.
love to everyone,
THO
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Cast iron huh? Well, I can agree with that, I suppose.

Also, we, or maybe just me?, is still wondering about the Spin a Yarn link from Gencon 2006..... :)

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Phoebus
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Mahalo, Ed & Hooded One!
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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

Also, we, or maybe just me?, is still wondering about the Spin a Yarn link from Gencon 2006..... :)
No, it's me as well.

I even sent an email to WotC's "Online RPG Content Department" asking for some details.

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Zandilar
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Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
Remember, there’s no Victorian-style Judeo-Christian morality in the Realms; it’s not a “bad thing” to be a mistress - - or, in most places, a prostitute. (There is such a thing as being ‘bad at it,’ or needlessly ‘wanton’ or unclean, but that’s a different matter, however much insult-hurling goodwives or gossips may want to paint it otherwise.)



Quick little follow up here...

What is the correct term for a the male equivelant to "mistress"? Master doesn't seem right to me, since the term inherantly implies superiority (I'll bite my tongue on any further comment on why that is so, suffice it to say it's fairly obvious).

Thanks again for the answers, by the way!

Zandilar
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As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.
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Penknight
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Hello again!

Just recently, my gaming group and I were talking about styles of dress and mannerisms in the Realms, when the topic of perfumes and colognes came up. I am running an NPC aasimar female paladin from Cormyr, (the daughter of my old 2nd Edition character that I have mentioned before), and I was asked by one of my group about what type of perfume she wore. I quickly answered with "Moonfire" (which I said was made by the followers of Selûne), forgetting that it was a magic item from Magic of Faerun. (I thought it sounded like an appropriate name, as well as a mysterious, exotic one).

I was sort of curious if you could tell me a bit about the different colognes and perfumes that are popular in the Realms, especially in Waterdeep, Cormyr, and Mulhorand. Thank you for your valuable time, sir and Lady THO.

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While Ed will likely have more... Penknight, I will direct you to the small selection of bath oils, perfumes, and other personal supplies, which are likely to found in most popular bathhouses across the Realms, referenced in Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue. Ed's also briefly mentioned a few himself in previous replies as I recall, so you may want to search through the compiled files as well.

Also, see "The Deadliest Perfume" from DRAGON #121, which has details about lotus blossoms and their usage as a perfume source in Kara-Tur.

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Penknight
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

While Ed will likely have more... Penknight, I will direct you to the small selection of bath oils, perfumes, and other personal supplies, which are likely to found in most popular bathhouses across the Realms, referenced in Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue. Ed's also briefly mentioned a few himself in previous replies as I recall, so you may want to search through the compiled files as well.

Also, see "The Deadliest Perfume" from DRAGON #121, which has details about lotus blossoms and their usage as a perfume source in Kara-Tur.


Thank you, Wisest of the Sages. I appreciate your directing me to Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue, I can't believe I forgot about that! As for Dragon, my access is more restricted. It's a true shame, too.

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Oh, I forgot to ask something that I have recently been wondering... are there plans for a 3.5 version of Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue to be released?

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quote:
Originally posted by Penknight

Oh, I forgot to ask something that I have recently been wondering... are there plans for a 3.5 version of Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue to be released?



Some of the items were updated in the 3.0 core Arms and Eq Guide, since Aurora's is listed, in that book, as one of the books that was referenced for A&EqG.

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Posted - 22 May 2007 :  22:33:04  Show Profile  Visit Fillow's Homepage  Send Fillow a Yahoo! Message Send Fillow a Private Message
Well Met,

I do not know if this question has already been written but I do not find the answer anywhere on the Web (this situation is worth than surviving within the city of the Spider Queen,... when you are a rock gnome !)...

Briefly,
I'd like to know if Mr Greenwood (Respectful greetings Mr Greenwood and thank you very so much for all you made for us !)... so, did Mr greenwood write something about the original Drannor, the elf who married a dwarven lass.
Does it exist something about this love story ?

Thank you very much

A French Fan...

"Today is a good day to smile",
Fillow Big'n'Book Mahlemiut 'Lead-dog', Son of Garl, Wanderer of the Masked Leaf and Namer of Oghma.

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I am a French FR fan, so please forgive my lapses in English language and do not hesitate to correct me. Thanks a lot.
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Kuje
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Posted - 22 May 2007 :  23:18:27  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
Ello's Ed,

I was curious about if you could supply some differences between the pirates of the Nelanther Isles and the pirates in the Sea of Fallen Stars and Realmspace pirates.

Specifically, I was wondering if you could details some superstitions of the three types, plus any pirate codes that they have? I could use some of Earth's pirate superstitions and codes but some of them make no sense for FR, so I was hoping for some FR answers.

And no, I wasn't watching Pirate's of the Carribean. (sp?) I was reading some history books on pirates of our history, just in case someone asks. :)

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Edited by - Kuje on 22 May 2007 23:31:01
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createvmind
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Posted - 23 May 2007 :  00:47:45  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure you were :)
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The Sage
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Posted - 23 May 2007 :  01:31:58  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
Seriously, Kuje has been reading some history books, because I've been meaning to ask him what the titles of these books are, since he told me about them in an earlier private discussion.

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Edited by - The Sage on 23 May 2007 01:33:46
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