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Jorkens
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Posted - 21 Mar 2007 :  17:08:55  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gruen

Now that I am about halfway through my current book, I am looking for my next read. One option I was pondering was the Watercourse Trilogy. Any advise / recommendations?

Also, I was intrigued by the Shadow Stone (as I have vague recalls of people recommending it... can't recall where I might have seen that, or if I'm suffering from delusions).

Finally, the Nobles book, Escape from Undermountain. Any advise in regard? Also, does one need to read this as a series, or are they stand-alone?


Thanks in advance for any advise you may be able to impart.


Gruen



The nobles series are all standalone unless my memory is playing tricks at me. Generally the books of this series are not among the best, in my opinion I should say, although I did enjoy War in Tethyr.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 21 Mar 2007 :  23:47:29  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gruen

Now that I am about halfway through my current book, I am looking for my next read. One option I was pondering was the Watercourse Trilogy. Any advise / recommendations?


I've found these books to be problematic, but at the same time, good reads. You might enjoy them (especially if you agree with the philosophies of Ayn Rand).

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Also, I was intrigued by the Shadow Stone (as I have vague recalls of people recommending it... can't recall where I might have seen that, or if I'm suffering from delusions).


I'm one person who recommended that book. For the most part, I found it an enjoyable coming of age tale.

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Finally, the Nobles book, Escape from Undermountain. Any advise in regard? Also, does one need to read this as a series, or are they stand-alone?




Never read that one--and yes, those novels are all stand-alones.

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jespin
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Posted - 22 Mar 2007 :  00:47:45  Show Profile  Visit jespin's Homepage Send jespin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I always tell my friends to grab any of my anthologies, i realy like "Realms of Mystery" or "Realms of Shadows". Then i can get a better idea of what to lend them next and never get back.
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lelorien
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Posted - 27 Mar 2007 :  02:07:43  Show Profile  Visit lelorien's Homepage  Click to see lelorien's MSN Messenger address Send lelorien a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Greetings friends! I thank you for recommending the finders stone trilogy the books are really great. What should I read after this trilogy?
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by lelorien

Greetings friends! I thank you for recommending the finders stone trilogy the books are really great. What should I read after this trilogy?



Well, there's another book that follows that trilogy, Masquerade. And Novak and Grubb have two more Realms books which tie into the Finder's Stone trilogy, but aren't a part of it: Finder's Bane and Tymora's Luck. They're books 1 and 3 of the Lost Gods trilogy. The second book is a Dragginglance novel by another author, and while it intro's a character for book 3, it's not necessary to read it to enjoy the third book -- I usually skip it, when I'm rereading those books.

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J D Dunsany
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Posted - 27 Mar 2007 :  16:44:00  Show Profile  Visit J D Dunsany's Homepage Send J D Dunsany a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by lelorien

Greetings friends! I thank you for recommending the finders stone trilogy the books are really great. What should I read after this trilogy?



Well, there's another book that follows that trilogy, Masquerade. And Novak and Grubb have two more Realms books which tie into the Finder's Stone trilogy, but aren't a part of it: Finder's Bane and Tymora's Luck. They're books 1 and 3 of the Lost Gods trilogy. The second book is a Dragginglance novel by another author, and while it intro's a character for book 3, it's not necessary to read it to enjoy the third book -- I usually skip it, when I'm rereading those books.



All of which is good advice. You may, of course, feel like you need a change of pace (or author) and a foray into one of the anthologies and/or a standalone novel like one of the Fighters books or a Harper book - or one of the Lost Empires books, for that matter (why does no one talk about them anymore?) - might just be the ticket. I only say this 'coz I'm one of those weird people who tends not to read the books of a trilogy or longer series one after the other. I'll often dip into other series (particularly if they're standalone adventures) in the middle of a trilogy. Don't ask me why. I know it's strange.

Incidentally, Wooly Rupert, just out of interest: Which FR novel have you read/re-read the most and how many times?

I'm afraid I'm not really in the position to re-read FR fiction, although I'm sorely tempted by Spellfire and the early Elminster books.

All the best!

JDD

"How content that young woman looks, don't you think? How content, and yet how flammable." - Lemony Snicket, The Unauthorized Autobiography
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 27 Mar 2007 :  17:17:18  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by J D Dunsany

Incidentally, Wooly Rupert, just out of interest: Which FR novel have you read/re-read the most and how many times?


Possibly either Elfshadow or Azure Bonds. They're both among my faves, and I've had them both for at least 15 years, which is plenty of time to reread them. I don't know how oft I've reread them, though... Prolly between 5 and 10 times.

quote:
Originally posted by J D Dunsany

I'm afraid I'm not really in the position to re-read FR fiction, although I'm sorely tempted by Spellfire and the early Elminster books.


I wish I had more reading time... I don't get to read as much as I want, and that sucks. Especially since I like to revisit particular books.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 28 Mar 2007 :  00:37:30  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I don't exactly have loads of free time, myself, and there are too many books I haven't read yet...so I'm not much of a re-reader, myself.

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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 28 Mar 2007 00:37:46
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The Sage
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Ed's books are usually the first among my "Re-read FR books" listing. Elaine's as well -- especially "Songs & Swords."

And if I'm feeling particularly daring... Blackstaff.

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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 30 Mar 2007 :  19:58:14  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Ed's books are usually the first among my "Re-read FR books" listing. Elaine's as well -- especially "Songs & Swords."

And if I'm feeling particularly daring... Blackstaff.




Blackstaff just oozed 'Realms' to me. Definitely on my list of novels to re-read as well.

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Mazrim_Taim

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Ed's books are usually the first among my "Re-read FR books" listing. Elaine's as well -- especially "Songs & Swords."

And if I'm feeling particularly daring... Blackstaff.




Blackstaff just oozed 'Realms' to me. Definitely on my list of novels to re-read as well.

It's because of Steven's well-placed Realmslore tidbits, that I often consider Blackstaff 'like' a Realms sourcebook.

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lelorien
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Posted - 29 Apr 2007 :  04:01:06  Show Profile  Visit lelorien's Homepage  Click to see lelorien's MSN Messenger address Send lelorien a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Does anyone know anything about the book The year of the dragons. (links please)
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Alaundo
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Posted - 29 Apr 2007 :  09:59:17  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage  Click to see Alaundo's MSN Messenger address Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lelorien

Does anyone know anything about the book The year of the dragons. (links please)



Well met

I assume thou art refering to the trilogy of The Year of Rogue Dragons, by Richard Lee Byers.

The books within, are as follows:

Book 1 - The Rage
Book 2 - The Rite
Book 3 - The Ruin

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lelorien
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Posted - 30 Apr 2007 :  22:29:02  Show Profile  Visit lelorien's Homepage  Click to see lelorien's MSN Messenger address Send lelorien a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Are the books in the harper series ment to be read in order?
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Alaundo
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Posted - 30 Apr 2007 :  23:14:37  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage  Click to see Alaundo's MSN Messenger address Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lelorien

Are the books in the harper series ment to be read in order?



Well met

No, they are generally stand-alone novels which an be read in order. There are a number of exceptions, however:

Elfshadow, Elfsong, SilversShadows should be read in that order.
Also, Crypt of the Shadowking followed by Crypt of the Shadowmage.

Other novels are also linked outside of The Harpers Series: Crown of Fire should be read after Spellfire and before Hand of Fire, and Masquerades follows on from The Finder's Stone Trilogy.

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lelorien
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Posted - 15 May 2007 :  17:28:55  Show Profile  Visit lelorien's Homepage  Click to see lelorien's MSN Messenger address Send lelorien a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey. Are the anthologies from the realms of shadows taken from any books?
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lelorien
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Posted - 16 May 2007 :  17:16:45  Show Profile  Visit lelorien's Homepage  Click to see lelorien's MSN Messenger address Send lelorien a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello. I would like to know were the stories from Realms of Shadows come from.
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Kajehase
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They all came from the fruitful minds of their authors and were written especially for that anthology.

There is a rumour going around that I have found god. I think is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist.
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

They all came from the fruitful minds of their authors and were written especially for that anthology.



Indeed. With the exception of the recent "Best of" anthologies, all of the short stories in the "Realms of" anthologies were written for the specific book they are in.

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Pharaun Mizzrym
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Posted - 11 Sep 2007 :  21:08:53  Show Profile  Visit Pharaun Mizzrym's Homepage Send Pharaun Mizzrym a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Priests series, Drizzt series, Best of the realms books
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Kheris
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Hi,

I'm hip-deep in Shadowbred, with Shadowstorm and Blackstaff calling to me from the Borders bag (I'm on a 3 novel a week habit! I'm sick! ) However, I was wondering what the most recent (timeline-wise) book on Cormyr is.

Thanks!
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Lady Kazandra
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I'd say "Elminster's Daughter" by Ed Greenwood. Though, I'm not exactly up to date with the latest FR novel releases . . . so I may have missed something.

"Once upon a time the plural of 'wizard' was 'war'." -- The Last Continent, by Terry Pratchett

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The Sage
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I've not read any of them as yet, though it appears that the present state of Cormyr is at least touched upon in Paul Kemp's "The Twilight War" trilogy.

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lelorien
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Posted - 27 Sep 2007 :  01:34:48  Show Profile  Visit lelorien's Homepage  Click to see lelorien's MSN Messenger address Send lelorien a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Greetings candlekeep! I am just about to finish the recommended novels for starting in the realms and I would like to know where to go next. Here is the list of the books I read in order:

Legend of Drizzt
Cleric Quintet
War of the Spider Queen
Elminster (1-5)
Promise of the witch king
Evermeet: Island of Elves
Cormyr (1-3)
Finders Stone Trilogy
The Avatar trilogy
Prince of lies
The Shadow of the Avatar trilogy
Crucible: Trial of Ciric the Mad
Return of the archwizards trilogy (I'm on the second and the rest of the list is the books I plan to read)
Realms of shadows
The year of Rogue Dragons

After that I'm out of ideas. I maybve thought of the harper series but I was asking myself if there was any series I had to read before.
Thanks in advance!
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Brynweir
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I see that you read the Promise of the Witch King. Did you read Servant of the Shard or Road of the Patriarch (Book III of the Sellwords) - Loved it!
You could also read the Icewind Dale Trilogy (that's where I started)

Spellfire was amazing and is followed up by Crown of Fire in the Harpers.

You could jump into the Harpers anywhere since the majority are stand alones.

Anyone who likes to read something that's really dark and gritty and completely awesome ought to read The Night Angel Trilogy by Brent Weeks. You can check out a little taste at www.BrentWeeks.com I should probably warn you, though, that it is definitely not PG-13 :-D

He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness.

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