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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author

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Posted - 08 Jul 2005 :  03:25:07  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for all the kind words.

Yes, it takes place in 342 Northreckoning.

No, I'd rather not have my blog linked here, thanks for asking, Wooly. Some of you know where it is, and that's fine, but as it's a more personal site and I'd rather be professional here, let's leave that tiny shred of a line there, please.

I still have to check as to whether or not I generate the back cover copy or if it's done in-house; if I write it, I'll see if I can get an okay to post it here eventually. Just remember it's still a year off, folks. Spend your money on Ed's and Elaine's book, eh? (and yeah, part of why he's not in their book is this one I've been writing...)

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Lord Rad
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Posted - 08 Jul 2005 :  09:09:11  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage  Click to see Lord Rad's MSN Messenger address Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fantastic! Now this is the kind of novel i've been hoping for for years! Thanks for letting us know, Steven. Can't wait. Will the novel be based in Waterdeep or elsewhere?

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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 08 Jul 2005 :  12:53:25  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage  Click to see Chosen of Moradin's MSN Messenger address Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I only want to say that I stay static before my PC after I read that new for more than 10 minutes!
A Khelben novel by Steven Arunsum? Err... Khelben Schend? Err... man, man... there´s nothing need to say. Only pray in gratitude for Mystra, Azuth, and a great number of good gods for that new.

Dwarf, DM, husband, and proud of this! :P

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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author

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Posted - 08 Jul 2005 :  13:24:59  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Rad

Fantastic! Now this is the kind of novel i've been hoping for for years! Thanks for letting us know, Steven. Can't wait. Will the novel be based in Waterdeep or elsewhere?



Yes.

The majority of the action takes place in Waterdeep and a lot of scenes within Blackstaff Tower. I don't want to ruin the surprise (nor do I know what will survive through second draft) so I'll not talk too much about how far afield the story goes across space or time....

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Dargoth
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Do we find out whats going on between the HArpers and the Moonstars these days?

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quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

Do we find out whats going on between the HArpers and the Moonstars these days?



I certainly hope so! I'd love to know what the Tel'Teukiira is up to, and some things they've accomplished.

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quote:
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Do we find out whats going on between the HArpers and the Moonstars these days?



I certainly hope so! I'd love to know what the Tel'Teukiira is up to, and some things they've accomplished.

I agree. I'd also like to read a little more about the Schism itself and how both groups initially felt toward each other.

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Steven Schend
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Posted - 09 Jul 2005 :  05:22:02  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

Do we find out whats going on between the HArpers and the Moonstars these days?



I certainly hope so! I'd love to know what the Tel'Teukiira is up to, and some things they've accomplished.

I agree. I'd also like to read a little more about the Schism itself and how both groups initially felt toward each other.



Well, I've worked some of them into the novel, but to talk more would ruin things. I will say the book hinges on a plot I've kept in my back pocket for far more years than the Harper/Moonstar schism...though I would love to do a book on just that myself.

In lieu of that, whaddya wanna know about the Schism?

In some folks' eyes (i.e. the Harpers fanatically loyal to the hierarchy at Berdusk), the Harpers/Moonstars split is akin to the state of American politics among its two major parties. They're two groups that share alleged goals but have vastly different attitudes and ideas about the good ways to go about them.

Among the rank and file and those in the field, it's really just a tempest in a teapot bit of semantics. If someone who's now a Moonstar was previously a trusted friend, they're not going to stop trusting that person on someone else's say-so. Most are too pragmatic for that.

On the other hand, neither side will be all 100% trusting. Think of them as "fellow intelligence agents." Each side may know things about the other side and/or situations, but neither side wants to be the one to tip their hand....

That help you out in terms of attitudes, role-playing, and such, Sage?

PS: Wooly, Kyriani still sleeps with Harpers, despite her Moonstar status. Just in case you were wondering.

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BobROE
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Does this book mean we might see you return to writing FR source books some time in the nearish future?
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

Do we find out whats going on between the HArpers and the Moonstars these days?



I certainly hope so! I'd love to know what the Tel'Teukiira is up to, and some things they've accomplished.

I agree. I'd also like to read a little more about the Schism itself and how both groups initially felt toward each other.



Well, I've worked some of them into the novel, but to talk more would ruin things. I will say the book hinges on a plot I've kept in my back pocket for far more years than the Harper/Moonstar schism...
Now that is an intriguing snippet... .

quote:
In lieu of that, whaddya wanna know about the Schism?
Basically, how did the Harpers feel about the Moonstars immediately after the Schism? Group tensions and feelings of betrayal aside, was there ever a point where the Senior Harpers thought about trying to bring their wayward "brothers and sisters"... back into the fold? Did the Schism completely destroy any attempts for future reconciliation? Do you foresee the Harpers and Moonstars ever eventually seeing eye-to-eye -- perhaps enough so that they could actually work together?

I imagine that there are those among the Harpers who still retain a relative measure of their anger toward the Moonstars, regardless of the time that has past since the Schism. In that regard how long did it take the most senior Harpers at Berdusk to fully (or as fully as they were willing to allow) accept Khelben's actions and those of the Moonstars?

quote:
In some folks' eyes (i.e. the Harpers fanatically loyal to the hierarchy at Berdusk), the Harpers/Moonstars split is akin to the state of American politics among its two major parties. They're two groups that share alleged goals but have vastly different attitudes and ideas about the good ways to go about them.

Among the rank and file and those in the field, it's really just a tempest in a teapot bit of semantics. If someone who's now a Moonstar was previously a trusted friend, they're not going to stop trusting that person on someone else's say-so. Most are too pragmatic for that.

On the other hand, neither side will be all 100% trusting. Think of them as "fellow intelligence agents." Each side may know things about the other side and/or situations, but neither side wants to be the one to tip their hand....
I'd see this more as the current perspective on relations between the Harpers and the Moonstars. Time has tried its best efforts to find a common ground between them.

quote:
That help you out in terms of attitudes, role-playing, and such, Sage?
Actually yes, it does . Steven, once again I appreciate your creative insight into the background of important Realms elements .

You've left this particular Sage... wanting more!

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quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

PS: Wooly, Kyriani still sleeps with Harpers, despite her Moonstar status. Just in case you were wondering.



Thanks for sharing that!

Does Kyri make an appearance in your novel?

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Originally posted by BobROE

Does this book mean we might see you return to writing FR source books some time in the nearish future?



That's a question on my mind, as well.

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khorne
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This is one of the best things I have heard in a long while.

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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author

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Posted - 10 Jul 2005 :  18:20:13  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by BobROE

Does this book mean we might see you return to writing FR source books some time in the nearish future?



That's a question on my mind, as well.



Mine too, but remember that the Books and RPG Departments are two totally different animals, and working with one does not guarantee working with another.

All in all, I'd rather get another book contract, thank ye very much.

In other answers...
Wooly--Yes, Kyri makes an appearance in the novel, but we'll have to see if she survives the revising and editing processes. After all, there's more than a few notables popping up in this book. Had to make it live up to its series title of THE WIZARDS, after all.....

Sage--Immediate impact of the Schism was more "WTF?!?" reactions from established Harpers outside of the political circles, than outright battling. Only those die-hards who immediately worked with the three at Berdusk might see things as irreconcilable...and there may be other hidden reasons for that as well....<mutters something about things never being as simple or as direct as they might seem...people never being as simple as they might seem....>

Here's the view on how I see most Senior Harpers dealing with it all--Khelben does NOTHING without seven plans and eighteen reasons for doing it. He also knows many things we know nothing about. Further, he's been on hand to help found the Harpers TWICE. Thus, we'll give him his leeway and trust that what he does won't impede Harper works. They may not like being out of the loop, but they do have some level of trust that Khelben works for the greater good always. They just get pissy because he doesn't share what he knows.

From Khelben's perspective, "What I do is mine own business and that with whom I share said business. All others who wish to know these secrets know not the wearisome burden it is to carry them. What I do with my tel'teukiira and what I have done with the Harpers shall protect the most and sacrifice the least in the long days ahead, both among those who Harp, those who Watch, and the populaces they protect."

More than likely, I'll tinker with some notes files and turn them into either web support or articles for DRAGON, with the okay of Books, that is.... Really, really hope I get to write The <NDA> of Khelben Arunsun.....

Enough give-aways for now; I'm off to a picnic.

Hope to talk to y'all later and keep the discussion going on Moonstars and Moon Pies and everything in between.

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The Sage
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Enough give-aways for now; I'm off to a picnic.
Can I come too? If only to press you with more questions about the Moonstars... .

I'm kidding of course . After your sharing of more lore regarding the Moonstars, I wish you a grand picnic indeed .

Thanks again Steven.

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Llah
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Hi, Stiven. Accessory "Fall of Myth Drannor" is one of the best FR products for me. This book impressed me a lot, as the "Elminster in Myth Drannor", which I read earlier so I want to write some fan-fiction collection of essays about the Fall. But when the first three stories were ready, I run into some problems. And these problems are in the following questions. I already asked them to Ed Greenwood, and Wooly advised me to ask them for you too. So:
1. The main theme of collection is the story of Iolas Eyriendor, Arykerym of Ak'Velahr, whose name was mentioned in the "Fall of Myth Drannor". He was described, as traitor, but I'd think a lot about his deeds…and asked myself: "And what if this man only executed a command?". So I read this book again and thought: "Hmm, the Fall was very bad event for all…except Noble Houses. They regain Old Elven Court, closed it for all non-elves, unruly commanders (such as Captain Selorn and Major Olortynaal) were dead, and the N'Tel'Quess-members of Council also were killed. This is very interesting". And after two days, when I sat at the table with pencil and paper, I suddenly stop writing and thought: "And what, if the Houses decided to surrender Myth Drannor with all its N'Tel'Quess?" So the first question to Ed is - "Could Houses decide to do this, or not? Could they decide to destroy the whole city for the restoration of elven glory?"
2. Second question. During the Twilight's Falling Lady Steel and a lot of Harpers at Twilight died. But what role did they play in Myth Drannor? Was their death important or nor? And could the Houses decide to kill her for the best of all golden elves?
3. In the description of the battle, which was named Dawn at Erolith's Knoll, the name of Erolith was mentioned. Is there any information about this "noted sylvan elf scout and warrior."
4. Human-mage Nezras, who later was named, as Traitor? Played some role in the Fall. There is no information about him, except notes about his participations in battles and his wedding with elven wizardress Raejiisa Sicafei. There are two questions - Is there anything about his life? - and - Could the family Sicafei agree with this wedding for the future use of Nezras during the War?
5. During the Silvergate Battle? Elminster Aumar detonated the portal between Silverymoon and Myth Drannon from within. Here is the citation from the rulebook - "Elminster was lost among the planes for a time, due to his task of destroying the gate from within". Is any information about El's traveling between planes?
6. During The Third Court Crusade 2/3 of Captain Selorn's forces were leaved in the restored Elven Court. He was a good commander and had to understood, that with 1/3 of army he couldn't do nothing in Myth Drannor - only die. So the question is: What was more important for Selorn, as a Captain of Ak'Velahr and also the son of the House Selorn - the order of Houses, representatives which formed the Council of Elven Court, or his duty before Myth Drannor?
7. And the last question. The Bane Duel. The last hope of Myth Drannor…or no? Or may be the hope was dead long ago? The last question is: IF Captain Fflar defeated Aulmpiter and stay alive, could he save the City of Song, or not?
That's all. I'll be very grateful for answers.
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Steven Schend
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Posted - 17 Jul 2005 :  14:11:06  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow, Llah. That's a lot to digest before I've had my morning's coffee...and alas, I'm short on time right now.

Thank you for the kind comments on FoMD, and it looks like I'm going to have to go back and reread what I'd written before taking a stab at answering your very intriguing and well-thought-out questions.

Hopefully I'll be able to tackle these questions and give them the answers they deserve soon. Let me just say it's gratifying to see someone get out of that product exactly what I'd hoped--a lot more thinking about the stories behind the stories, given the short shrift/overview nature of that product.

And now's a good time if anyone else lurking out there asked me questions that have remained unanswered as well. Remind me, as my brain's a sieve some times...

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Gray Richardson
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Hi Steven, since you are asking for a reminder, I am still very curious if you have any musings about what iteresting cultures and critters can be found on those terra incognitas around the globe of Toril.
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Steven Schend
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Posted - 30 Jul 2005 :  18:36:03  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Despite the self-aggrandizing puffery of those windbags at Twilight Hall, the Blackstaff stands, as ever, unbowed. But then again, that's what makes him so much fun to tease."

-Kyriani Agrivar

THIS is an absolutely marvelous quote, and I'm very curious as to its origin. I'm 98% certain that I never wrote it, and I was under the impression that I was among the blessed few keeping that little minx in print and continuity. Found the quote on WotC's boards, and I'm just dying to find out from whence it came. Wooly? Anyone?

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Steven Schend
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Posted - 30 Jul 2005 :  18:43:25  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
NOTE TO LLAH

You've not been forgotten, but due to troubles with my personal computers, I'm very limited on online time and can't answer your query at present. Trust that I'm still working on it and should have some answers for you soon.

Sorry for the delays, but my time is not my own, I'm afraid.

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quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

"Despite the self-aggrandizing puffery of those windbags at Twilight Hall, the Blackstaff stands, as ever, unbowed. But then again, that's what makes him so much fun to tease."

-Kyriani Agrivar

THIS is an absolutely marvelous quote, and I'm very curious as to its origin. I'm 98% certain that I never wrote it, and I was under the impression that I was among the blessed few keeping that little minx in print and continuity. Found the quote on WotC's boards, and I'm just dying to find out from whence it came. Wooly? Anyone?



Page 84 of City of Splendors: Waterdeep. Each of the Prestige Class descriptions includes a quote from a member of that class; this quote is from the Moonstar Agent PrC. The "oh-so-dishy" Kyriani (to use your past words) is now a Wizard 11/Moonstar Agent 3.

And I think you'll like the fact that people who take the Moonstar Agent PrC can continue to advance as Harper Agents, and vice versa.

Edit: My bad. They can't continue to advance in the "rival" class, but they retain all of their abilities from that class -- so a Moonstar Agent who was originally a Harper is not considered an ex-Harper (at least, not game-wise). And vice-versa.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

"Despite the self-aggrandizing puffery of those windbags at Twilight Hall, the Blackstaff stands, as ever, unbowed. But then again, that's what makes him so much fun to tease."

-Kyriani Agrivar

THIS is an absolutely marvelous quote, and I'm very curious as to its origin. I'm 98% certain that I never wrote it, and I was under the impression that I was among the blessed few keeping that little minx in print and continuity. Found the quote on WotC's boards, and I'm just dying to find out from whence it came. Wooly? Anyone?



Page 84 of City of Splendors: Waterdeep. Each of the Prestige Class descriptions includes a quote from a member of that class; this quote is from the Moonstar Agent PrC. The "oh-so-dishy" Kyriani (to use your past words) is now a Wizard 11/Moonstar Agent 3.

And I think you'll like the fact that people who take the Moonstar Agent PrC can continue to advance as Harper Agents, and vice versa.

Isn`t there some crazy harper in waterdeep that wants to kill all harpers not loyal to twilight hall?

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quote:
Originally posted by khorne

Isn`t there some crazy harper in waterdeep that wants to kill all harpers not loyal to twilight hall?



Not quite... The Harpers have dispatched an agent to Waterdeep to clean up the ranks. Eather Heilean is a paladin and Harper Paragon, and she's trying to make sure all Harpers in the City of Splendors are not helping the Tel'Teukiira and are loyal to Twilight Hall.

As both a paladin and a Harper, she really can't go around killing people -- especially people whose only transgression is to not be loyal to Twilight Hall.

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Llah
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Ukraine
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Not at all, Stiven. I know, how bad it is, when you haven't time to answer all questions, which another people try to ask you. So...I'll be wait and hope :).
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Arthedain
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Greetings, Loremaster Schend.

I acquired Mr. Boyd's latest work on Waterdeep a tiny tenday ago, and I noticed something that I found a bit odd. In the section that details Khelben, Laeral, and their little "magic school" a list of apprentices were given, and one of these apprentices were a gentleman named Aznar Thrul.

I was wondering if you could perhaps provide some insight into how a man of thayan ancestry came under the Blackstaff's wing/cloak, and what made him leave (in order to later become the charming Zulkir of Thay that we all love and odore :) ).

I would also like to say "thank you" for providing sourcebooks filled with lore and plot hooks. In my current campaign set in the Dalelands (3+ years and still kicking) I keep returning to your books on Cormanthyr and the Fall of Myth Drannor for inspiration and ideas on all things elven.

Many thanks in advance.
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