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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  18:36:49  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
WotC just announced that you can now self-publish using 5E Forgotten Realms material on Dungeon Master's Guild.

See the article here.

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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  18:55:09  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow. That is the best news I have seen since 3.5.

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Eilserus
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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  19:26:35  Show Profile Send Eilserus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow indeed. That looks to be really awesome. Unleash the Realms Lorelords! So in theory, Ed could publish every single thing he has on the Realms now? Because that would be awesome.

I'd love to hear Ed and THO's thoughts on this. The materialistic weasel in me hopes to see the next 17 Volo's Guide lineup that I'll buy. :)
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quote:
Originally posted by Eilserus

Wow indeed. That looks to be really awesome. Unleash the Realms Lorelords! So in theory, Ed could publish every single thing he has on the Realms now? Because that would be awesome.

I'd love to hear Ed and THO's thoughts on this. The materialistic weasel in me hopes to see the next 17 Volo's Guide lineup that I'll buy. :)



That's what I thought as soon as I read this news.

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Seravin
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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  19:37:16  Show Profile Send Seravin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Eilserus

Wow indeed. That looks to be really awesome. Unleash the Realms Lorelords! So in theory, Ed could publish every single thing he has on the Realms now? Because that would be awesome.

I'd love to hear Ed and THO's thoughts on this. The materialistic weasel in me hopes to see the next 17 Volo's Guide lineup that I'll buy. :)


OMG..is that what this announcement translates to in English? Because if I can get Ed to put out Volo's Guide to the Moonsea or Volo's Guide to Sembia I will fund it myself!

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Eilserus
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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  20:07:28  Show Profile Send Eilserus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think that's what it means as long as it's 5E for a rule set. Ed could update the entire world and do all the books he has wanted to write over the years, merchant trading, new Volo's Guides etc. We as a community definitely need to support this if it comes to pass.
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  20:42:53  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I haven't seen anything on the site (yet) that isn't 5E, but I'm planning on attending the Reddit Q&A to ask about it.

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Gary Dallison
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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  21:12:56  Show Profile Send Gary Dallison a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Interesting move, what's the catch. I thought WoTC were adamant they would never make such a move again after 3e because they lost control of the product (and therefore in their eyes lost revenue) that was why the 4e version of the OGL was so restrictive.

Are there any legal eagles out there who can tell how this differs to the 3e and 4e and whether it is more or less restrictive for publishing your own works using their rules.

Again, what's the catch?

Just so we're clear I'm not being negative here, suspicious yes, negative no. If it is what it sounds like then this could be a very good thing (although I doubt FR stuff could be published since they didn't allow use of their names and other trademarked property under the 3e version).

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Irennan
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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  21:25:28  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You can publish FR, as long as you do it on their website. The catch is that 1)it (obviously) won't be canon, unless WotC decides to make it so 2)you lose 50% of the profit.

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Eilserus
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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  21:32:55  Show Profile Send Eilserus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Did a bit more reading on this. I'd qualify this as a catch too. Apparently, if you create something and publish it there, another creator can come along and use any or all of what you put up for sale as long as they add meaningful content to it. Not sure how I feel about that. Maybe that doesn't matter if you look at it from a shared world perspective.

Edited by - Eilserus on 12 Jan 2016 21:43:19
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Caladan Brood
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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  22:17:32  Show Profile  Visit Caladan Brood's Homepage Send Caladan Brood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So I can publish my Forgotten Realms adventures? Too cool. I have four or five drafts that I believe are solid adventures.
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Eilserus
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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  22:29:29  Show Profile Send Eilserus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I believe so. I think they have to be 5E rules. I'm not entirely clear on what a person would have to do to publish something with a different rule set.
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Irennan
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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  22:34:41  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In order to publish FR adventures, you'd have to use the DMguild site, and only 5e rules are allowed there.

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Edited by - Irennan on 12 Jan 2016 22:41:21
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George Krashos
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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  23:03:37  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Interesting ...

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  23:08:52  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wonder if Eric Boyd will take advantage of this...

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Gary Dallison
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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  23:12:25  Show Profile Send Gary Dallison a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sounds to me like this could be a response to the formation of TEGG. As much as I love FR I'd much prefer ed to succeed

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  23:53:52  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dazzlerdal

Sounds to me like this could be a response to the formation of TEGG. As much as I love FR I'd much prefer ed to succeed



I would expect these things to be entirely unrelated. TEGG doesn't publish Realms material, and this is -- at the moment -- for FR stuff.

Also, it's not the first time Ed has done something for a game company other than TSR/WotC. Heck, they didn't even blink when his Castlemourn setting came out. (Ditto when Monte Cook, formerly employed by WotC, came out with his mammoth Ptolus: The City by the Spire.)

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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 13 Jan 2016 :  00:35:31  Show Profile Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would love to post some ideas, but I have never DMed before, and I have only played the game 4 or 5 times.

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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 13 Jan 2016 :  01:12:27  Show Profile Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
None of this self-published material would be considered canon though, would it?

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Eilserus
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Posted - 13 Jan 2016 :  01:23:08  Show Profile Send Eilserus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't believe so. It is stated that Wizards may choose to use the works created though, which would canonize it.
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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 13 Jan 2016 :  01:40:22  Show Profile Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That would be really cool! Hmm...mine would be solely lore-based though, with no stats or mechanics. I could probably come up with an adventure, but it would be more for story purposes.

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Eilserus
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Posted - 13 Jan 2016 :  02:55:50  Show Profile Send Eilserus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's one of the questions I have, whether a lore book or something of the sort could be put together as opposed to something like a straight adventure.
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Irennan
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Posted - 13 Jan 2016 :  03:02:21  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The article says:

''Creators can upload whatever kind of Forgotten Realms material they’d like to the Dungeon Masters Guild, but we’ll be featuring side treks, monsters, and backgrounds on the site.''

So I guess that the answer is yes, even if I don't know what they mean for featuring. Does the site have some special showcase function?

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George Krashos
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Posted - 13 Jan 2016 :  03:52:37  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Question is, will they want lore set in the "here and now" of the Realms (i.e. post-Sundering) or will they accept lore set in the 1350s DR, for example ...?

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Irennan
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Posted - 13 Jan 2016 :  03:55:11  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Idk, but the site is selling 2e and 3e sourcebooks, so I guess that lore about ''the past'' could be accepted. This is something that should be asked in the AMA.

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Posted - 13 Jan 2016 :  05:16:24  Show Profile Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We will have to start a thread about what info is revealed in the AMA, since not everyone will be able to make it...

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Posted - 13 Jan 2016 :  10:20:44  Show Profile  Visit AuldDragon's Homepage Send AuldDragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Question is, will they want lore set in the "here and now" of the Realms (i.e. post-Sundering) or will they accept lore set in the 1350s DR, for example ...?

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From the Facebook thread*:
"Also, play and create content for whatever era of the forgotten realms that you want to. You're not saddled with one specific chunk of time within the setting."

Not a direct answer to whether they'll sell all eras, but I suspect that's the case.

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Gary Dallison
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It's almost like they've had a sudden philosophy transplant back to the days when they initially purchased d&d.
I'm so used to them being the ebil overlords of the rpg world that I'm finding it hard not to be suspicious of this and the motives behind it. I'm sure after a few months though we will see whether they are being sincere or not and then I can join in the celebrations. Then I might just forgive everything they ever did wrong (I'm still not buying into the 1490s though)

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Eilserus
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Posted - 13 Jan 2016 :  13:35:13  Show Profile Send Eilserus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd like to know if art and maps from past products can be reused.
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Caladan Brood
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Posted - 13 Jan 2016 :  14:08:46  Show Profile  Visit Caladan Brood's Homepage Send Caladan Brood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've thrown in a few questions as well as I can't wait to get rolling :D Including yours, Eilserus.
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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 13 Jan 2016 :  17:45:37  Show Profile Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am really curious about this, but I won't be able to participate in the AMA. If they accept it, I could probably come up with an adventure (it just wouldn't have the mechanics), or current lore ideas. Hmmm, maybe I can just contact customer service

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