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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 23 Jan 2012 :  19:24:44  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Poll Question:
Which of the Forgotten Realms logos do you prefer to have grace the cover and spine of your Realms novels?

Choices:

Old Forgotten Realms
Khaki Forgotten Realms
New Novels lacking the FR logo on cover

(Anonymous Vote)

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 23 Jan 2012 :  19:26:15  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have always loved the original Forgotten Realms logo. It always reminded me of something that was excavated at some archeological site.

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Edited by - Artemas Entreri on 23 Jan 2012 19:43:42
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 23 Jan 2012 :  20:12:36  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Me too. I prefer to old one. The new one isn't bad, but it's not quite as good.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 23 Jan 2012 :  20:34:05  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I actually prefer the old Dragonlance logo as well

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Diffan
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Posted - 23 Jan 2012 :  20:42:07  Show Profile Send Diffan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like the newer one. I felt the old one was too blocky and I'd hope they put the logo on the main cover, preferrably the same size as the D&D one.
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 23 Jan 2012 :  20:49:52  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Though I like the old logo, the newer logo combined with the 'leather bound' look appeals more to me. Though what matters more is the content
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Dennis
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Posted - 23 Jan 2012 :  23:22:45  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

The old one's too big, and, well, too old. The new one's better. Though as pointed out by many, it should also be printed on the cover.

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Faraer
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Posted - 23 Jan 2012 :  23:26:49  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm not entirely convinced by either of them, but prefer the original because the newer version's use of an overused off-the-rack font makes it look low-rent. But I prefer it at the discreet size as on the late 1990s and 2000s books, where it's not bigger than the author's name and the title.
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The Sage
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  00:28:02  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is one of the few times I prefer the old over the new.

I grew up with the original and official FR logo, so that's the one I happily reflect upon.

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Markustay
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  01:39:07  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The few maps I did that included a map-key used the old logo, so you can guess where my preferences lie.

However, I wouldn't mind at all seeing a bit of an update to the old one (not a different one - just spruce it up a bit). Kinda like what Mike Shley did with the maps - you can still tell its The Realms, because the newer textures are based on the old ones, but it just 'pops' a bit more. With today's much better computer-graphic technology, they can make it look like its rising off the page.

So a new old one, if that makes any sense.

EDIT: I was going to make a new thread for this, but since its a related subject (the artwork used), I figured I'd just mention that for those of you on Facebook, I've created a 'Support The Forgotten Realms' PicBadge (a 'button' attached to your profile pic). I hope to generate some buzz with it for the 5e FR relaunch. If I still had my old comp and PS I would done something a little better, but it is what it is. Enjoy.

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Edited by - Markustay on 24 Jan 2012 02:01:32
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Arcanus
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  01:55:45  Show Profile  Visit Arcanus's Homepage Send Arcanus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I suppose on balance I prefer the old logo.
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Ayrik
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  03:54:27  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I suspect the new logos will look something like this:
HASBRO™
Forgotten Realms

[/Ayrik]

Edited by - Ayrik on 24 Jan 2012 03:57:12
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Dennis
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  06:32:48  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Likely. Except the color. It's too bloody.

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Jakk
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  08:38:31  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal

Though I like the old logo, the newer logo combined with the 'leather bound' look appeals more to me. Though what matters more is the content


Exactly my thoughts.

Although I fear Ayrik may be closer to the mark for what we actually get... but hopefully that does not extend to the content.

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

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Jorkens
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  11:20:33  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I guess no one will be surprised when I say I prefer the old one?
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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  14:10:36  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik

I suspect the new logos will look something like this:
HASBRO™
Forgotten Realms




Yucky

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  14:17:32  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

The few maps I did that included a map-key used the old logo, so you can guess where my preferences lie.

However, I wouldn't mind at all seeing a bit of an update to the old one (not a different one - just spruce it up a bit). Kinda like what Mike Shley did with the maps - you can still tell its The Realms, because the newer textures are based on the old ones, but it just 'pops' a bit more. With today's much better computer-graphic technology, they can make it look like its rising off the page.

So a new old one, if that makes any sense.

EDIT: I was going to make a new thread for this, but since its a related subject (the artwork used), I figured I'd just mention that for those of you on Facebook, I've created a 'Support The Forgotten Realms' PicBadge (a 'button' attached to your profile pic). I hope to generate some buzz with it for the 5e FR relaunch. If I still had my old comp and PS I would done something a little better, but it is what it is. Enjoy.



Great link MT, i added it to my FB

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  14:20:26  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am glad to see an almost even balance between the old logo and new. I think this kind of even playing field is needed for the Realms to continue and develop for the years to come. Is it weird that i am probably considered an "Old" Realms fan (since i am prone to 2E) at 33 years of age?

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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore

India
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  14:26:32  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like the old logo as well..
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore

India
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  14:27:52  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
At bookstores its hard to identify FR books nowadays because of the missing logo...
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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  14:30:24  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thauranil

At bookstores its hard to identify FR books nowadays because of the missing logo...



With the newer books, i believe the new Realms logo is still on the spine even if it's missing from the cover. My copy of Swordmage is like that.

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Brimstone
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  14:31:11  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like the 3E logo. The original logo will do also...

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Markustay
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  15:51:31  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have no problem with the new (3e) logo - I liked the leather-bound look as well. So long as we actually get an FR logo, I will go with the consensus.

I just can't help getting nostalgic when I see the old one.

What I don't want is to see them reprint everything exactly the same, with the original logos. On the other hand, that might be a clever way to allow folks to know what era the product is related to.

Perhaps 3 logos? 'Classic' (Ed/1e/2e), Modern (3e/OGL/lost century), and 'Dark Future' (4e+). Although that appeals to me on some level, it would also help keep the fanbase separate, which is the opposite of what they want. Once again, I do not envy them - lots of tough choices need to be made.

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Edited by - Markustay on 24 Jan 2012 15:52:02
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GRYPHON
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  16:41:49  Show Profile Send GRYPHON a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Old Forgotten Realms...
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ZeshinX
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  17:15:41  Show Profile  Visit ZeshinX's Homepage Send ZeshinX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I most definitely prefer the old one.

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Imp
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  18:10:29  Show Profile Send Imp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Who cares.
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Jakk
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  18:25:53  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

I have no problem with the new (3e) logo - I liked the leather-bound look as well. So long as we actually get an FR logo, I will go with the consensus.

I just can't help getting nostalgic when I see the old one.


Agreed on all three counts.

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

What I don't want is to see them reprint everything exactly the same, with the original logos. On the other hand, that might be a clever way to allow folks to know what era the product is related to.

Perhaps 3 logos? 'Classic' (Ed/1e/2e), Modern (3e/OGL/lost century), and 'Dark Future' (4e+). Although that appeals to me on some level, it would also help keep the fanbase separate, which is the opposite of what they want. Once again, I do not envy them - lots of tough choices need to be made.



I like this idea... but I also share your concerns. And honestly, I'd put the lost century in with the 4E stuff, simply because I'm still firmly behind the idea of the split timeline at 1385DR. Anyway, that's a whole other kettle of fish in a barrel to fry... and that mixing of metaphors is a pretty accurate description of the job ahead of the designers. I don't envy them either.

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  21:13:27  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Imp

Who cares.



The 45 people who have voted at the time of this post?

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Imp
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  21:22:07  Show Profile Send Imp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Imp

Who cares.



The 45 people who have voted at the time of this post?


It wasn't a question.

Also, why isn't there a fourth option - "I don't care"? This poll is biased.

Edited by - Imp on 24 Jan 2012 21:22:39
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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  21:23:35  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Imp

Who cares.



Lol, excellent feedback

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  21:26:39  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Imp

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Imp

Who cares.



The 45 people who have voted at the time of this post?


It wasn't a question.

Also, why isn't there a fourth option - "I don't care"? This poll is biased.



The "I don't care" option isn't listed because if someone sees this thread and doesn't care about it, they will logically ignore it and move on.

How is a poll about the Forgotten Realms logos biased? Biased against what? This poll is definitely biased against Ravenloft, Greyhawk, Dark Sun, Dragonlance, Ebberon, and Pathfinder logos.

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