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Markustay
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Posted - 09 Oct 2012 :  09:14:07  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
The story Vision by Roger Moore in Realms of Infamy was entirely from a goblin perspective.

There was also a goblin-oriented Drizzt short story, and although not from the goblin's perspective, I will point out that all Drizzt novels are from a 'monster' perspective.

There is at least one vingette (several I am sure) in the Grand History of the Realms from a monster's point-of-view. I remember one specifically that referred to humans/demi-huamns as 'meat' that I really enjoyed.

I've been dying for an orc anthology (or goblinoids in general), but since we've never even gotten a dwarf one, I doubt we'll see one.

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Jakuta Khan
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Posted - 09 Oct 2012 :  11:23:13  Show Profile Send Jakuta Khan a Private Message
@Markus: had COMPLETELY the same idea, but he explicitly asked for Non-Humanoid stuff I think.

Also for Orc and Goblinoid anthology, something like Paizo did for Golarion, this would simply rock for the realms.
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Barastir
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Posted - 09 Oct 2012 :  11:35:55  Show Profile  Click to see Barastir's MSN Messenger address Send Barastir a Private Message
About the dragon breeds, have you checked the 2e Draconomicon, Infamous? It brings a lot of information about draconic crossbreeds and, IIRC, there is mentioned a red (fire)/ white (cold) offspring. Don't remember about chromatic and metallic crossbreeds, though. Well, and Ed must answer that, but probably dragons don't see "love" as we see...

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Infamous
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Posted - 09 Oct 2012 :  17:23:46  Show Profile Send Infamous a Private Message
Thanks for the goblin tip in Realms of Infamy, Markustay. It's a start! Still hoping for a beholder story, though -- in the Baldur's Gate games, there is a non-evil elder beholder who is philosophical, funny, and constantly amused with incongruous things humanoids do. It's like having an alien critique the human race. Oh, it was fun to see it.

Barastir, obrigado! I will look at the 2e Draconomicon. My question to Ed and The Hooded Lady was as much about physiology of draconic pregnancies as it was about their social interactions, so let's see what the Draconomicon has on that.


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Barastir
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Posted - 09 Oct 2012 :  17:58:21  Show Profile  Click to see Barastir's MSN Messenger address Send Barastir a Private Message
You're welcome, Infamous. Draconomicon tells us something about the crossbreeds, how their breath weapons would work, and some other phisiological info, like their size and growth, and other details, IIRC. I'm sure it will help you! It also has something on draconic behavior, and in a way it must help determining the possibilities of an eventual crossbreeding. And I'm sure Ed can provide additional information.

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fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."

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Markustay
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Posted - 09 Oct 2012 :  19:57:24  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
There is also a Beholder bartender on the rock of Bral, IIRC (my Spelljammer knowledge is pretty sparse). Not quite The Realms, but it is Realmspace.

There is a Beholder pictured in the illustration of the World Serpent Inn on pg.70 of Volo's Guide to Cormyr, and he looks friendly, but I don't think we've ever gotten the story on him.

So yeah... aberrations are individuals, just like everyone else, and not every one is out to kill everything in sight.

The story I want to read is about a beholder (and maybe an illithid) who come to the 'good guys' for help, because the Phaerimm are wreaking havok amongst them. I'm sure stranger alliances have been formed in The Realms.

There were also some 'musings' by monsterous types at the chapter-heads in the Complete book of Humanoids. At least one of them was from FR, IIRC (it might have been the Ogre Mage - not sure).

And then there is Elmonster... a hobgoblin of note. He appeared in a Dragon Magazine article, I think.


--- Markustay, advocate for 'monster rights'


*Grammar corrections

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Infamous
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Posted - 09 Oct 2012 :  20:44:11  Show Profile Send Infamous a Private Message
Regarding monsters, there is also the issue of morals, which every single culture sees as absolute but which are, in fact, relative to that culture.

"What do you have against us? We are not monsters! Eating the dead is just normal. Are you going to leave the corpse of your loved ones to, what, rot and be eaten by slimy maggots? That's uncivilized."
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 09 Oct 2012 :  22:55:34  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

There is also a Beholdfer bartender on the rock of Bral, IIRC (my Spelljammer knowledge is pretty sparse). Not quite The Realms, but it is Realmspace.

There is also a Beholder pictured in the illustration of the World Serpent Inn on pg.70 of Volo's Guide to Cormyr, and he looks friendly, but I don't think we've ever gotten the story on him.

So yeah... aberrations are individuals, just like everyone else, and not every one is out to kill everything in sight.

The story I want to read is about a beholder (and maybe an illithid) who come to the 'good guys' for help, because the Phaerimm are wreaking havok amongst them. I'm sure stranger alliances have been formed in The Realms.

There were also some 'musings' by monsterous types at the chapter-heads in the Complete book of Humanoids. At least one of them was from FR, IIRC (it might have been the Ogre Mage - not sure).

And then there is Elmonster... a hobgoblin of note. He appeared in a Dragon Magazine article, I think.


--- Markustay, advocate for 'monster rights'



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The Sage
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Posted - 10 Oct 2012 :  02:47:15  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

And then there is Elmonster... a hobgoblin of note. He appeared in a Dragon Magazine article, I think.
That was "Crude, But Effective" by Derek Jensen from DRAGON #199.

And don't knock Elmonster. His shamanistic ways have been very well employed in my Realms.

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Jakuta Khan
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Posted - 10 Oct 2012 :  07:17:23  Show Profile Send Jakuta Khan a Private Message
coming to Hobgoblins again, dear Ed, dear THO,

as you have really greatly described the Hobgoblin way of doing things, staying hidden, WHAT happened, that such a lot of Hobgoblins joined the two ogre mages in their invasion of Amn?
And, with everyone knowing their capability in warfare, how was it, that these numbers of hobgoblins, together with the other humanoids.... have not utterly stomped Amn into the ground when they attacked?

"Their forces including 30,000 kobolds, 24,000 goblins,
10,000 hobgoblins, 45 hill giants, and 4,800 ogres"
Taken directly from the 2e Lands of intrigue, these are also not all the recruited warriors.

thanks for a short reply.


Edited by - Jakuta Khan on 10 Oct 2012 07:59:15
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 10 Oct 2012 :  15:45:56  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Heh. Jakuta Khan, Ed tells me the short reply is:

Religion happened.

Or to be slightly more verbose, hobgoblins joined in that invasion because their gods told them to.
And once fighting in Amn (against largely capable human mercenaries), the invading forces fractured, started to fight each other (and even allied briefly, in particular times and places, with various human "defending" forces) because the invaders' goals started to shift, and some elements of that mustered force began to believe they'd been tricked into participating.
Whereupon their gods spoke to the hobgoblins again . . .


So saith Ed. Who is still busier that busy, but not too busy for scribes' requests . . .
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THO
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Jakuta Khan
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Posted - 10 Oct 2012 :  16:21:07  Show Profile Send Jakuta Khan a Private Message
thanks for this, THO and Ed.

I knew they would take over the world some time.

btw, as usual ed knows exactly that this throws a whole lot of new ??? but I think thats his fun in it ;)

Is there some traveling schedule of Ed with happenings he visits? does he eventually travel outside US / canada?

Edit:
So, during the time of troubles it is said, that Maglubiyets Avatar led a huge force of Hobgoblins from the Orsraun mountains deeper Underdark.
Is it completely off that this were the Hobgoblins later showing up in the Sythilisian forces, or not?
Or do we get to NDA stuff again here?


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The Hooded One
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Posted - 10 Oct 2012 :  18:15:48  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Jakuta Khan, Ed formerly traveled the world a lot, usually to guest at gaming or sf/fantasy conventions (London, Stockholm, Hanover, Melbourne, and Brisbane, just to name a few places), but has in recent years regretfully had to refuse more and more invitations because looking after his wife (who is in her late 70s, and in poor health) consumes more and more of his time.
Every year Ed tries to attend GenCon, and three local conventions: Phantasm (the fall iteration of the Peterborough, Ontario gaming convention), Ad Astra and SFContario (Toronto sf cons).
This year, he'll be at World Fantasy the first weekend in November (because this year, it's a "local" con, located just north of Toronto) and at SFContario 3 (the next weekend in November).
If Ed accepted all of the invitations he gets to guest or host workshops or give speeches, he'd be double or triple booked every single weekend of the year - - but of course, he couldn't afford either the time or the money necessary, and we'd entirely lose his creative output.
However, the next time he ventures outside North America in a trip that involves public appearances, I'll be sure to give all scribes a heads-up if I can.
love,
THO
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Jakuta Khan
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Posted - 10 Oct 2012 :  19:46:47  Show Profile Send Jakuta Khan a Private Message
thanks for the detailed reply, and fully understood, family comes first. wouldbe strange if it was different....

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Marco Volo
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Posted - 10 Oct 2012 :  22:03:36  Show Profile Send Marco Volo a Private Message
Hi Ed and THO ! I've asked this question to Eric Boyd few days ago, but he's probably on another plane with his family, so here we go :

We know that dopplegangers were humans. So, theoretically, they believe (or believed) in the human pantheon. What would be their "favourite" human gods ? Do they keep faith in the human pantheon or do they change pantheon when they grow up ?

Regards,
Volo

Edited by - Marco Volo on 10 Oct 2012 22:04:56
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Blueblade
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  02:42:19  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Hi Ed and THO,
I hear Ed is going to be at World Fantasy this year. I know it's a "closed" convention, but there are usually off-site dinners and bar crawls and the like . . . any hint that Ed will partake of such, so that eager fans can get autographs? Personal lore replies? Hugs?

BB
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  02:47:28  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Probably. I know the lovely and capable Gabrielle Harbowy, Ed's co-conspirator editing WHEN THE HERO COMES HOME and WHEN THE VILLAIN COMES HOME and no doubt some future anthologies, visits these halls, and will also be at World Fantasy. I'd be surprised if she isn't doing a Dragon Moon Press event at some point. Not to mention dining with Ed, if I know anything about Ed. Probably there will also be secret editorial meetings, complete with fedoras pulled low, trenchcoats pulled up high, and . . . no, I think I'll stop there.
I'll ask Ed, and see what he says, but if Gabrielle reads this before a reply comes from Uncle Weirdbeard, perhaps she could post it here?
love to all,
THO
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xaeyruudh
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  07:36:30  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
I know Ed's busy... I'm in no particular rush. I just had a query while reading, and thought I would drop it on the pile.

Are there any noble villas/compounds still standing in Waterdeep which are no longer occupied by nobles? I'm curious about cases where the various buildings have been repurposed, or split into multiple properties, but for whatever reason the place wasn't demolished when the family moved out or died out. Or perhaps the family is still in Waterdeep but has fallen on very rough times, is no longer considered noble, and had to sell part of their property. Or... or...

And are some of the known noble families living in villas that were built by other families? I fully anticipate nudging (or colliding with at full speed) NDA territory here, but as always anything that can be revealed would be appreciated.

My apologies if this is partly answered in novels or DDI articles... I've been forced to be a miser lately.
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  15:36:33  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi, xaeyruudh! Here's the short, swift answer while we wait for Ed's real one:

There are many, many Waterdhavian noble villas (meaning: walled compounds, with home, stables, guesthouse, and gardens), not to mention tallhouses and standalone mansions, now occupied by other nobles than the family that built them initially (most new occupants do a makeover/expansion), or by wealthy wannabe-nobles.
The oldest, proudest families like to stay on the same site (and often buy up properties around it, and rent them out, so as to control potential neighbours [[landlords have absolute rights to kick any tenant out, for any reason]]). However, other nobles like to "move up" in properties as they gather wealth and social prestige (and want to appear even more powerful, in hopes of gaining even more).
The superb recent-era Realms novel CITY OF THE DEAD by Rosemary Jones describes many, many nobles selling their properties and even their titles to get out of debt.
So, yes, in almost any era of Waterdeep, nobles are "building grander," moving, and leaving behind slightly less grand digs that others either rent or buy. Some temples and guilds, after the fall of the warlords, built and sold luxurious lodgings in Waterdeep as an income-generating ongoing industry (though this faded away as land prices rose and ate into the profits).
All of this comes from Ed's notes and my notes generated over the years by questioning him. We will, of course, await a proper answer from the man himself.
love,
THO
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Sightless
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Lady, Ed, I have another question for you both, this comes from the newly aquired Grand history of the realms. A most excellent resource if I do say so.

One of the sections however reads as follows:

"Flamerule 29: Reports spread through Amn and Murann that the ancient
dwarf realm of Xothaerin is home to a large colony of stingers, strange
human–scorpion centaurlike hybrids.
"


So I'm wondering who exactly are these folk? where did they come from? Any info will be good, Big thanks in advance.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sightless

Lady, Ed, I have another question for you both, this comes from the newly aquired Grand history of the realms. A most excellent resource if I do say so.

One of the sections however reads as follows:

"Flamerule 29: Reports spread through Amn and Murann that the ancient
dwarf realm of Xothaerin is home to a large colony of stingers, strange
human–scorpion centaurlike hybrids.
"


So I'm wondering who exactly are these folk? where did they come from? Any info will be good, Big thanks in advance.



They're called tlincalli, or manscorpions. The come from Maztica, if I remember correctly.

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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by Sightless

Lady, Ed, I have another question for you both, this comes from the newly aquired Grand history of the realms. A most excellent resource if I do say so.

One of the sections however reads as follows:

"Flamerule 29: Reports spread through Amn and Murann that the ancient
dwarf realm of Xothaerin is home to a large colony of stingers, strange
human–scorpion centaurlike hybrids.
"


So I'm wondering who exactly are these folk? where did they come from? Any info will be good, Big thanks in advance.



Here friend...


Tlincalli
Large Monstrous Humanoid
   
Source(s): Forgotten Realms 2 (MC11)
Alignment: Neutral Evil
Climate/Terrain: Warm Underground or Desert
Rarity: Rare
Experience Value: 5,000
See Also: Manscorpion, Nimmurian; Manscorpion

Appearing as part human and part scorpion, these have dark-skinned human torsos with bony plates covering their chest and stomach. The remaineder of their body is a bony plated insectoid body supported on six legs which trails away to a poisonous tail-stinger.


And a scroll here at Candlekeep ...

http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12897

And apparently 221 dale reckoning was the year of the melting manscorpion......sounds cool!

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Edited by - The Red Walker on 12 Oct 2012 18:07:55
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Markustay
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And they migrated from Maztica (and can be found in those sources) to Faerūn through a subterranean passage. They began that long journey in Lands of Intrigue, if I recall correctly. Then for some reason they finished their trip by casting a ritual which transported them all directly to Faerūn (Grand History of the Realms).

Althouh we were never given an explanation for their change in plans, my thoughts on the matter are that they were using the tunnel that the dwarves and drow used to get to Maztica in centuries past. That tunnel had completely collapsed behind them, as per that lore (and obviously even dwarves couldn't fix it), so I assume that the Manscorpions eventually got to the cave-in, and rather then give up they cast that ritual (one still has to wonder why they did not do so in the first place... a cost?)

So this was Maztica lore, then Schend* lore (IIRC), and finally lore from the GHotR. None of it is 'Ed lore', if I am not mistaken.

Question: If one was under some sort of befuddlement or dexterity-hampering affect, and one was having trouble putting on one's own shoes, would a Shoehorn of Puissant Castleblasting give any sort of bonus for that? Or is that the one thing it does not do?

Now the real question - would said item record EVPs? (I am sure you know what that means, but just in case someone doesn't, thats the ability to record sounds you don't here 'live' when in an environment, like the whisperings of a ghost).

*EDIT: Looking at the 'Maztica Revisted' section of LoI I can't find any mention of the tlincallis, so now I am not sure where it was mentioned that they were initially tunneling. That leaves either the older Maztica sources or the 3e FR campaign guide. That takes Steven Schend out of that particular loop.



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Edited by - Markustay on 12 Oct 2012 19:03:51
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Sightless
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Hmmm, I don't hear anything else about them in Grand history of the Relms Marcus, let me go back and look again. and thanks for the help, forgive me for being a little dense,
So... we aren't entirely sure where they come from?

I assume that they're one of those mysterious races that just happens to be running round, or do they have an origin?

You know what I should probably do the intelegent thing and have a listen to that scroll first.

I have reasons for being rather interested in the group, which isn't entirely related to my post in the rise of the underdark thread.

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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

And they migrated from Maztica (and can be found in those sources) to Faerūn through a subterranean passage. They began that long journey in Lands of Intrigue, if I recall correctly. Then for some reason they finished their trip by casting a ritual which transported them all directly to Faerūn (Grand History of the Realms).
Monsters of Faerūn, briefly, carries the ambition of the tlincalli somewhat forward, as well, into the 3e Realms.

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