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Dennis
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 Posted - 20 Oct 2010 : 07:16:26
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And I never thought the 'Keep is rife with music geeks.  |
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Alystra Illianniis
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 20 Oct 2010 : 08:13:26
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Originally posted by dennis
And I never thought the 'Keep is rife with music geeks.
Heh. I was a music-geek long before I became a geek of anything else, in fact.  |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Oct 2010 : 08:38:55
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I wish I were.
My dad plays musical instruments pretty good, and he and my mom sing excellently. And I? Well, zilch! Sometimes I wonder if I was adopted.
Whenever I sing, I could imagine the sky literally rupturing! |
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xaviera
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 : 06:43:44
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Originally posted by Arik
I can already imagine my sinister Red Wizard toiling in the sour smoke-filled dimness of his bubbling alchemical laboratory, cackling with feverish inspiration as he works his unspeakably foul experiments at the alembic ... his wildly animated rotting undead minion playing frantically powerful scores at the many complex levers of a Zulkoon. Mwoohahahaahaaa!
I suggest also that revel of the deceased, When the Night Wind Howls
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I mentioned Jack Vance earlier - let me quote some fragments from the description of a performance in his "The Brave Free Men",
Etzwane took up the gastaing: an instrument of deeper tone than the khitan, with a plangent resonance which must remain under the control of the damping sleeve if the harmony were not to be overwhelmed. Unlike many musicians, Etzwane enjoyed the gastaing and the subtleties to be achieved by expert tilting and sliding of the sleeve.
He took Frolitz's khitan, struck a chord, bent the neck, tested the scratch-box.
Frolitz and Mielke on the clarion played ground notes, careful to stay harmonically aside, with the guizol and gastaing striking unobtrusive accents.
He nodded to Frolitz, who now in his turn blew a theme into the mouth-cup of his wood-horn -- a gasping rasping sardonic statement foreign to the fluid clarity of the instrument, which Dystar emphasized with harsh slow strokes of the scratch-box, and the music was off and away: a polyphony melancholy and deliberate, in which every instrument of the troupe could clearly be heard. Dystar played calmly, his invention every instant opening new perspectives into the music... The melody broke and faltered, in a manner anticipated by all; Dystar struck out an astounding exercise, starting in the upper register, working down through a perplexing combination of chords, with only an occasional resonance of the gastaing for support; down through upper-middle and lower-middle registers, backwards and forwards, like a falling leaf; this way and that, into the lower tones, to finish with a guttural elbow at the scratch-box. On the wood-horn Frolitz blew a quaver a minor interval below, which dwindled and died into the resonance of the gastaing.
He played slow chords, quickly damped, creating a pattern of sound and silence, which became interesting to him, and which he restated in an inversion. Resisting the tempation to embellish, he played a spare stately music. The troupe supplied ground notes, which presently became a broad theme, swelling up like a wave over the khitan, then subsiding. Etzwane played a set of clanging disharmonic chords and a soft resolution; the music ended.
Vance is amazing with words and descriptions, and pretty much any of his books will provide ideas for campaigns.
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 : 14:13:40
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Vance's style is very distinctive, if somewhat dated today. His writing was certainly influential in shaping the earliest D&D rules.
You might like the style of the fantasy writers who influenced him - Tolkien, Mervyn Peake, Roger Zelazny; or even, of course, the legendary Lovecraft.
Or Vance's contemporaries - Steven Donaldson, Michael Moorcock, Gene Wolff, Robert Silverberg. Just to name a few.
Most of these older (pre-1980s) fantasy books are a bit hard to come by today. They tend to be richly described and immersive, as opposed to some of the modern fantasy lore which is squarely aimed at hollywood action-pulp bookselling. Before the condemning flames of hellfire rage forth, I'd like to point out the there are many exceptions to what I've said (in and out of the Realms) and bestseller-pulp books of today are not better and not worse than the more "serious" fantasy genre of yesterlore. Both are acquired tastes. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7974 Posts |
Posted - 24 Nov 2010 : 08:43:26
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 24 Nov 2010 : 09:22:36
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Originally posted by Arik
(Remind me to remind you to post your time travel links, Sage, in about a month.)
Embarassingly, I'll admit I'm drawing a blank on this one. Can you point me to the specific scroll I made this statement in? |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7974 Posts |
Posted - 24 Nov 2010 : 09:38:51
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lmao - this scroll, yesterday.
No worries, I'll wait a moon or two if needed. 'Twas meant to be a joke. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7974 Posts |
Posted - 26 Nov 2010 : 04:17:02
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Drifting, ever drifting, slightly away from topic ...
I've been shopping for an Yamaha Electone (a type of mastercraft Zulkoon organ-like instrument), and discovered some performances by this astonishing young bard - the most recognized music perhaps being Pirates of the Caribbean, Indiana Jones, and Star Wars - not really Realmslore, true ... although she does (inexplicably) wear a dragon custume at times. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7974 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2010 : 14:22:17
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Back on topic ...
Thayan Thunder coils! Yes, even more exciting (and louder) than the zulkoon
[Edit: Note the chainmail suit, worn for electrical safety reasons. Music starts about 40 seconds in.]
I also found a strange gnome playing a Thayan Theramin. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
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Sarelle
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
508 Posts |
Posted - 16 Apr 2012 : 17:11:00
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This actually just came up in the Realms campaign I'm running at the moment, and I wanted to be comprehensive what instruments I can suggest.
Do you still have that list you mentioned, Sage and might you be willing to share it with me? I'd be ever so grateful! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 17 Apr 2012 : 03:14:20
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Originally posted by Sarelle
This actually just came up in the Realms campaign I'm running at the moment, and I wanted to be comprehensive what instruments I can suggest.
Do you still have that list you mentioned, Sage and might you be willing to share it with me? I'd be ever so grateful!
I can certainly share it, of course.
But I don't have it with me presently. And I won't be near it again until the weekend. So I'll leave this window open on my desktop as a reminder for myself.
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Alystra Illianniis
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 18 Apr 2012 : 01:04:51
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
I'll be waiting for the weekend, then! And perhaps I will ask Ed about underdark instruments, as well.
I've got some tidbits on Underdark musical instruments. Not much, though. Just bits gleaned from books like the "War of the Spider Queen" series and stuff. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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The Sage
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Posted - 18 Apr 2012 : 01:15:50
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
Please pass it along! I've got most of the books, but for the life of me, don't recall any mention of such, and I'm missing one or two of them.
Recalling what little I have in my notes, they're just bits and pieces about how drow music sounds, and a few glimpses of the strange way their music is often produced. Most of these bits came from the WotSQ books. I didn't find much in any of the Drizzt-related novels about drow music that wasn't already covered, sparingly, elsewhere. |
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Sarelle
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
508 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2012 : 09:34:42
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Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Sarelle
This actually just came up in the Realms campaign I'm running at the moment, and I wanted to be comprehensive what instruments I can suggest.
Do you still have that list you mentioned, Sage and might you be willing to share it with me? I'd be ever so grateful!
I can certainly share it, of course.
But I don't have it with me presently. And I won't be near it again until the weekend. So I'll leave this window open on my desktop as a reminder for myself.
Ooh, great, thanks! Hopefully my players will appreciate the thoroughness! |
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Cassie5squared
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Apr 2012 : 14:39:30
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Originally posted by Markustay
Further....quote:
Originally printed in Horselords, by David Cook, pg.125
Drifting through the night came the wail of a band of musicians, the scraping notes of the khuur and rhythmic rattle of a yak-hide drum. A singer suddenly added to the cacophony, wailing in the two-voice style peculiar to the steppe. Somehow the man produced both a low, nasal drone and a high-pitched chant at the same time.
It goes on to say that Tuigan music is an acquired taste. Not sure if the strange ability of the kaychi to sing in two voices is paranormal, or just some extremely difficult skill to master (along the lines of ventriloquism).
The Yak-Hide drums are fairly common, and are also used to give signals in war (that part is covered in Dragonwall).
The singing in two voices at once sounds to me much like Mongolian throat singing, and thus a skill one does not need any kind of paranormality to master.
Just thought I'd toss that out there. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 23 Apr 2012 : 15:08:04
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Originally posted by Sarelle
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Sarelle
This actually just came up in the Realms campaign I'm running at the moment, and I wanted to be comprehensive what instruments I can suggest.
Do you still have that list you mentioned, Sage and might you be willing to share it with me? I'd be ever so grateful!
I can certainly share it, of course.
But I don't have it with me presently. And I won't be near it again until the weekend. So I'll leave this window open on my desktop as a reminder for myself.
Ooh, great, thanks! Hopefully my players will appreciate the thoroughness!
I haven't forgotten your request, Sarelle. Nor your request either, Alystra.
It's just that I didn't have the desired opportunity to access the relevant archive over the weekend, as I'd initially planned. I'll try and track down the material again come this weekend. |
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Sarelle
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 May 2012 : 22:22:48
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| Ah, not to worry. I'm having my carpets replaced so the next session with my players has been delayed a week, giving me more time to research proper Realmsian flavour for the bard. Whenever you get the chance I eagerly await your notes! |
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Sightless
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 03 May 2012 : 23:40:16
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Originally posted by Cassie5squared
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Further....quote:
Originally printed in Horselords, by David Cook, pg.125
Drifting through the night came the wail of a band of musicians, the scraping notes of the khuur and rhythmic rattle of a yak-hide drum. A singer suddenly added to the cacophony, wailing in the two-voice style peculiar to the steppe. Somehow the man produced both a low, nasal drone and a high-pitched chant at the same time.
It goes on to say that Tuigan music is an acquired taste. Not sure if the strange ability of the kaychi to sing in two voices is paranormal, or just some extremely difficult skill to master (along the lines of ventriloquism).
The Yak-Hide drums are fairly common, and are also used to give signals in war (that part is covered in Dragonwall).
The singing in two voices at once sounds to me much like Mongolian throat singing, and thus a skill one does not need any kind of paranormality to master.
Just thought I'd toss that out there.
that, or Zhing Chinese Opera. |
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