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Zapato
Acolyte
Netherlands
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 Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 09:02:07
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The 'double weapon' topic made me wonder: What else can adventurers wield with the exception of the standard DnD weapons? So:
Have you ever wielded anything out of the ordinary? Did it work? If you could use a weapon not in de DnD books or make one up of your own what would it be and how would it work?
Personnaly I still want to use a scythe during a campaign and see how it well it goes...But if a DM ever allows it I'm gonna see if I can use one of those giant round logs you sometimes see in wushu / kung-fu movies :P
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Daviot
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 11:25:04
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One of the more fun examples one of my players (who sometimes DM's himself) and I came up with involves the idea of a wizarding college that's (in)famous for their mages' tendencies to resort to improvised weapons. Hence, "weaponized" everyday items* are the sign of a wizard from said school, as well as the sign of a warped mind. 
Anyway, example: Warbook. Wielded by a horribly effeminate half-elf eldritch theurge scholar. In essence, his spellbook, an enormous grimoire, with a steel-reinforced cover and spine. The book was alchemically hardened, resistant to energy, and had a long strap to allow for more leverage on swings.
Stats:
Warbook, one-handed exotic melee weapon: 45 gp. 1d8 20/x2 bludgeoning, 7 lbs. Can passed off as a regular book with a +2 circumstance bonus to the skill check (Bluff/Sleight of Hand, usually). Gives a +2 shield bonus if held in two hands during the total defense action. Doubles as a spellbook or any sufficiently large tome.
The character in question had made it a +1 defending weapon, added the aforementioned defenses, and had it sanctified with his holy symbol embossed on the cover. 
*Including, but not limited to, candlesticks, frying pans, books, musical instruments, gardening implements, and familiars. |
One usually has far more to fear from the soft-spoken wizard with a blade and well-worn boots than from the boisterous one in the ivory tower.
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ranger_of_the_unicorn_run
Learned Scribe
USA
292 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 12:10:23
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| I don't see too many kung fu movies, so I'm not quite sure about what you are talking about, but there is a weapon that is basically a giant log you can throw at people to stun them and it is in Masters of the Wild. |
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
894 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 12:27:06
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Originally posted by Daviot
*Including, but not limited to, candlesticks, frying pans, books, musical instruments, gardening implements, and familiars.
 That would be the more useful a familiar has ever been in my campaigns. Poor kitty |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
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Zapato
Acolyte
Netherlands
38 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 13:52:08
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Originally posted by ranger_of_the_unicorn_run
I don't see too many kung fu movies, so I'm not quite sure about what you are talking about, but there is a weapon that is basically a giant log you can throw at people to stun them and it is in Masters of the Wild.
hope this helps:
http://ui10.gamespot.com/905/benkei_2.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSn327yqEls |
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Ionik Knight
Learned Scribe
USA
222 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 14:14:00
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| MANRIKI GUSARI, a chain weapon. It works great....until you fumble. |
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Jesters to left of them,
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 14:28:42
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| I've never had a character weild anything more exotic than a katana... And even that was appropriate to the character; he was a kensai. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 14:30:56
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Originally posted by Zapato
http://ui10.gamespot.com/905/benkei_2.jpg
That looks like one of those impossible weapons used in some fantasy video games. Seriously, if I wanted to weild a big stick-thing, I'd reach for a regular quarterstaff before grabbing the candle-holder from a wizard's study. |
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Zapato
Acolyte
Netherlands
38 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 14:54:19
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
That looks like one of those impossible weapons used in some fantasy video games. Seriously, if I wanted to weild a big stick-thing, I'd reach for a regular quarterstaff before grabbing the candle-holder from a wizard's study.
I know DnD keeps things very realistic, but I think its fun to experiment and let some laws of physics slide a little bit. Not only does it keep melee characters interresting, but it brings them to the same height as magic characters.. Who aren't very realistic to begin with and break the laws of physics themselves, especially at high levels
I cant see anything wrong with a realy big bloke (barbarian?) wielding a realy big club like weapon like that.. |
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-Conan the barbarian on what is best in life |
Edited by - Zapato on 23 Dec 2008 15:13:48 |
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dwarvenranger
Senior Scribe
USA
428 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 16:08:21
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| I had a monk use a sang kau(sp) once. |
If I waited till I knew what I was doing, I'd never get anything done.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 16:31:58
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I actually created a set of three highly-specialized nunchuks for trolls in Kara-Tur. I have a back-story, and basically some master decided to prove that anyone can be taught the way of the open hand (Kung-Fu), with enough patience and dicipline. After managing to train three trolls as monks, he had three magical nunchuks created for them that would work well with their racial abilities.
The nunchuks are studded with small razors in four rows along the length of each 'stick' (similar to those shark-tooothed swords used by some cultures). What that does is negate the troll's natural regeneration (since its working overtime on his hands as it is), but does double damage, with an increased crit range.
I call them Trolchuks. 
Thats a DM-special for NPCs, although I suppose a PC could weild one... if he didn't mind bleeding to death. I created it as one of the weapons for the Kara-Tur netbook.
Currently one is lost, and the other two are in the possession of an Oriental Vampire (who also has no trouble weilding them). |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 17:29:37
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| I've had a barbarian use a Tetsubo...about the biggest club-like weapon with metal studs that I can think of. |
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Ionik Knight
Learned Scribe
USA
222 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 19:22:10
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| Have you considered basing your big log weapon the Highlands Caber? |
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Nerfed2Hell
Senior Scribe
USA
387 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 20:58:42
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| mithril beer mug. |
Some people are like a slinky... not good for much, but when you push them down the stairs, it makes you smile. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 22:23:22
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There's a weapon in WoW called the 'Mug O' Hurt', which is basically just a beer mug.
You can also slap people with a fish. |
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Brynweir
Senior Scribe
USA
436 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 23:06:20
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The direction of some of the answers got me to thinking, and well, almost anything could be used as a weapon, effectively, too. I've used a broken stool leg to kill a man. The real question is, are you talking about a one time, Jackie Chan- I'm caught with nothing better so I'll wield THIS type of usage or are you talking about a weapon that you'd carry on a regular basis?
Because some things just don't make sense to carry around - lol |
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He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness.
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ErskineF
Learned Scribe
USA
330 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 23:27:49
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Originally posted by Brynweir
Because some things just don't make sense to carry around - lol
How long did it take Tika to ditch that frying pan? :) /portal to Krynn
The -4 penalty to using an improvised weapon will discourage players from using anything like that on a regular basis. I think I would allow a variety of feats to have the additional effect of knocking that penalty down to -2: Athletic, Deft Hands, Power Attack, Toughness... Just to encourage players to try it and make things more interesting. |
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ranger_of_the_unicorn_run
Learned Scribe
USA
292 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 23:59:25
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Zapato
http://ui10.gamespot.com/905/benkei_2.jpg
That looks like one of those impossible weapons used in some fantasy video games. Seriously, if I wanted to weild a big stick-thing, I'd reach for a regular quarterstaff before grabbing the candle-holder from a wizard's study.
To me it looks like a cricket paddle. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 24 Dec 2008 : 00:55:33
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Not as bad as the guy with the REALLY huge hammer - what was that? One of the Conan movies?
Isn't there an 'Improvised Weapon' Feat somewhere that offsets the penalty? Maybe its a class-ability of some PrC (like Drunken Master)... I forget... |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Dec 2008 : 03:33:14
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Originally posted by Brynweir
The direction of some of the answers got me to thinking, and well, almost anything could be used as a weapon, effectively, too. I've used a broken stool leg to kill a man. The real question is, are you talking about a one time, Jackie Chan- I'm caught with nothing better so I'll wield THIS type of usage or are you talking about a weapon that you'd carry on a regular basis?
Because some things just don't make sense to carry around - lol
Hey, everyone needs a beer mug, just in case they encounter a beer keg, *wink*
Some of the weapons clearly are using what is on hand as oposed to weapons trained and skilled at using. |
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Brynweir
Senior Scribe
USA
436 Posts |
Posted - 24 Dec 2008 : 03:59:19
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| I may not have been clear, but I was actually acking about Zapato's intent with the question. Was it meant to include anything we'd used or something unusual that was carried as a regular weapon? It doesn't really matter. I was curious. |
Anyone who likes to read something that's really dark and gritty and completely awesome ought to read The Night Angel Trilogy by Brent Weeks. You can check out a little taste at www.BrentWeeks.com I should probably warn you, though, that it is definitely not PG-13 :-D
He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 24 Dec 2008 : 05:02:45
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Originally posted by Brynweir
I may not have been clear, but I was actually acking about Zapato's intent with the question. Was it meant to include anything we'd used or something unusual that was carried as a regular weapon? It doesn't really matter. I was curious.
Well... My minotaur had an odd habit. In a dungeon, after an encounter, he'd grab a corpse, tuck it under his arm, and keep it until the next encounter. When more nastybads were found, his first attack would be to chuck the corpse at them.
It didn't always hit or do damage, but it proved demoralizing enough that the nastybads sometimes fled. |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
3738 Posts |
Posted - 24 Dec 2008 : 05:27:52
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Well... My minotaur had an odd habit. In a dungeon, after an encounter, he'd grab a corpse, tuck it under his arm, and keep it until the next encounter. When more nastybads were found, his first attack would be to chuck the corpse at them.
-I had a fellow PC that gouged out the eyeballs of the things that he killed, and then put them in a bag...He was planning to create an 'Ocular Golem'. 
-The DM, though, was a bad DM, so in retrospect, the silliness that happened because of that fact was a welcome thing. It took something like 4 sessions to finish character building and actually start playing. |
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ranger_of_the_unicorn_run
Learned Scribe
USA
292 Posts |
Posted - 24 Dec 2008 : 05:40:28
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Originally posted by Markustay
Isn't there an 'Improvised Weapon' Feat somewhere that offsets the penalty? Maybe its a class-ability of some PrC (like Drunken Master)... I forget...
Well, the exotic weapon master from Masters of the Wild can use tools to create an improvised weapon. Though I'm not quite sure what the use of it would be unless you were locked in a dungeon with nothing more that a set of tools. |
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Ghost King
Learned Scribe
USA
253 Posts |
Posted - 24 Dec 2008 : 06:17:31
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| I once used a bed and box springs as a shield against a werewolf trying to maul me once in Ravenloft. It actually worked, unfortunately I was on a boat in the Mist so it only delayed the inevitable. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 24 Dec 2008 : 06:37:14
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Originally posted by Markustay
Isn't there an 'Improvised Weapon' Feat somewhere that offsets the penalty? Maybe its a class-ability of some PrC (like Drunken Master)... I forget...
The MWP 3.5 Dragonlance books have a couple of feats that limit the penalties for improvised weapons, but I don't know if there were other ones in any core books.
And of course Pathfinder has the infamous Razor Sharp Chair Leg . . .
One of my players ran a goliath rogue/barbarian that never carried a weapon, and used:
1. A large table to kill an Extaminaar wizard.
2. Dual wielded chairs to help kill a corpse creature unholy warrior.
3. A greataxe ripped out of a trap that went off and nearly killed a party member.
4. A large stone flower planter to kill an assassin.
5. A wooden log.
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Zapato
Acolyte
Netherlands
38 Posts |
Posted - 24 Dec 2008 : 12:28:18
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Originally posted by Brynweir
I may not have been clear, but I was actually acking about Zapato's intent with the question. Was it meant to include anything we'd used or something unusual that was carried as a regular weapon? It doesn't really matter. I was curious.
What I ment was that I both wanted to know if people ever used any strange weapons or if they could think of any now.
And mostly focused on regular weapons and not just a chair or candlestick players grabbed in the heat of the moment, though it is fun to read ;) |
"To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women."
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Zapato
Acolyte
Netherlands
38 Posts |
Posted - 25 Dec 2008 : 10:09:57
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| A friend of mine had a crazy idea for a new weapon yesterday: TWO shields..one in each hand and both equipt with spikes etc so they also could be used for offensive moves. |
"To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women."
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Brynweir
Senior Scribe
USA
436 Posts |
Posted - 25 Dec 2008 : 14:05:53
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Originally posted by Zapato
A friend of mine had a crazy idea for a new weapon yesterday: TWO shields..one in each hand and both equipt with spikes etc so they also could be used for offensive moves.
I'd imagine if it were done correctly, and depending on the shape and size of the shield of course, you could probably have a sharp edge on them, something to use for slashing. I was thinking something similar to the Uruk hai swordsman's shield, but with a single sharp blade-like end instead of the two gouging spikes.
Anyone ever seen a "lantern shield?" I was reading the description and it sounded kind of cool - not sure how useful - but this is the image I get http://www.thousandeggs.com/216.jpg and the word cool somehow fails to describe it -lol |
Edited by - Brynweir on 25 Dec 2008 14:26:35 |
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Create a weapon
