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Kuje
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Posted - 01 Aug 2008 :  23:13:40  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
The ToC for the new Dragon is up. Looks like there are four Realms articles.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/drtoc/366

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Hawkins
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Getting a dead link right now, the WotC site must be down or just hate me, I am really not sure which any more.

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Ayunken-vanzan
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Posted - 02 Aug 2008 :  00:02:20  Show Profile  Visit Ayunken-vanzan's Homepage Send Ayunken-vanzan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No problems accessing the site here. From the TOC:

Rose Keep: A Red Wizard Enclave
By Bruce R. Cordell
The Red Wizards were once a highly coordinated group, but those days are gone. Look inside one of the new Red Wizard enclaves here.

Gontal
By Bruce R. Cordell and Ed Greenwood
The Realms of 4th Edition have new life this month. The region of Gontal, previously unexplored, is detailed here.

Design & Development:The 100-Year Leap
By Phil Athans and Bruce R. Cordell
Phil and Bruce discuss the philosophy behind the Forgotten Realms timeline shift, as well as other critical decisions regarding the new Realms.

RPGA Report
By Chris Tulach
This month, Chris tells us more about the Living Forgotten Realms campaign

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Richard Lee Byers
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Posted - 02 Aug 2008 :  01:20:46  Show Profile  Visit Richard Lee Byers's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Weird. I can see the list of the articles, but I can't click on them and read them.
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Garen Thal
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Posted - 02 Aug 2008 :  01:24:07  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers

Weird. I can see the list of the articles, but I can't click on them and read them.
This list is the Table of Contents for the upcoming Dragon 366. As articles go "live," they will activate the links on the table of contents page, until the entire issue is complete.
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Richard Lee Byers
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Posted - 02 Aug 2008 :  04:55:47  Show Profile  Visit Richard Lee Byers's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Aha. That would explain it. Thanks, Garen.
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Uzzy
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Posted - 02 Aug 2008 :  05:19:36  Show Profile  Visit Uzzy's Homepage Send Uzzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan

No problems accessing the site here. From the TOC:

Rose Keep: A Red Wizard Enclave
By Bruce R. Cordell
The Red Wizards were once a highly coordinated group, but those days are gone. Look inside one of the new Red Wizard enclaves here.

Gontal
By Bruce R. Cordell and Ed Greenwood
The Realms of 4th Edition have new life this month. The region of Gontal, previously unexplored, is detailed here.

Design & Development:The 100-Year Leap
By Phil Athans and Bruce R. Cordell
Phil and Bruce discuss the philosophy behind the Forgotten Realms timeline shift, as well as other critical decisions regarding the new Realms.

RPGA Report
By Chris Tulach
This month, Chris tells us more about the Living Forgotten Realms campaign



Red Wizards were cooler as evil magic merchants, Gontal sounds like an STD, they shifted the Realms because they were too incompetent to make subtle changes and the LFR can die.

There we go. Saved everyone the wait for the next set of articles.

Edited by - Uzzy on 02 Aug 2008 05:21:44
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Jorkens
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Well I never liked the Enclave and trading focus on the Red Wizards, so that is one thing I would not miss.
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Quale
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Posted - 02 Aug 2008 :  13:33:58  Show Profile Send Quale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
where is Gontal?
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Garen Thal
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Posted - 02 Aug 2008 :  13:55:40  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Quale

where is Gontal?
My guess is that it's one of the lands introduced by the Spellplague. Whether it's on Faerūn proper, or Returned Abeir, or somewhere else, I have no idea.
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Zanan
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Posted - 02 Aug 2008 :  14:41:56  Show Profile  Visit Zanan's Homepage Send Zanan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gontal ... previously unexplored? Previously non-existing would be more to the point. I mean, you'd really hard pressed to find a place on this planet unexplored after 30,000 odd years of civilization (which utilizes magic for long spells).

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Quale
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Posted - 02 Aug 2008 :  18:53:40  Show Profile Send Quale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
at first it seemed like some pre-Spellplague obscure land that never got described

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Kyrene
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Posted - 02 Aug 2008 :  19:36:43  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan

Design & Development:The 100-Year Leap
By Phil Athans and Bruce R. Cordell
Phil and Bruce discuss the philosophy behind the Forgotten Realms timeline shift, as well as other critical decisions regarding the new Realms.

*waits patiently for Kiaransalyn's parody of this one*

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Markustay
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At first I thought that Gontal was indeed a previously unexplored (undetailed?) region, but now I'm leaning towards another piece of Abeir that got s__t out onto the Realms.

Could be Maztica's replacement, even.

quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

Well I never liked the Enclave and trading focus on the Red Wizards, so that is one thing I would not miss.

Sad to say - they went even more in that direction in 4e, it appears.

Thay is no longer run by the Red Wizards - Szass Tam has either killed, enslaved, or exiled all the rest, and Thay is now Toril's Plateau of Leng.

The Red Wizards that do still exist ONLY run enclaves - they have lost their Home-base, and the enclaves are ALL thats left of the Red Wizards (as we knew them).

So they took a bad idea and ran with it.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 04 Aug 2008 :  17:52:09  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan
Design & Development:The 100-Year Leap
By Phil Athans and Bruce R. Cordell
Phil and Bruce discuss the philosophy behind the Forgotten Realms timeline shift, as well as other critical decisions regarding the new Realms.




Now that's the one I'm looking forward to.

Will I enjoy any of these articles, even a bit?

Time will tell. Sooner or later, time will tell.

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Hawkins
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Posted - 04 Aug 2008 :  19:27:05  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Critical" would be the operative word that I am pretty sure that most of the community here will not agree with.

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Markustay
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Right now I'm trying to see the glass half-full.

Okay... maybe 1/10 full.

1/100th full?

WORK with me, people....



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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Right now I'm trying to see the glass half-full.

Okay... maybe 1/10 full.

1/100th full?

WORK with me, people....






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Dargoth
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quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

quote:
Originally posted by Quale

where is Gontal?
My guess is that it's one of the lands introduced by the Spellplague. Whether it's on Faerūn proper, or Returned Abeir, or somewhere else, I have no idea.



Didnt one of Bruce COrdells novels feature an "Aboriginalesque" character who was from a place outside Faerun that started with G?

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Jimbobx
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quote:
Didnt one of Bruce COrdells novels feature an "Aboriginalesque" character who was from a place outside Faerun that started with G?


The characters name started with a 'G' - Gungarri.

I'm not sure that his place of origin was ever named. I recall he was referred to as a tattooed warrior from far away...but no more detail than that.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Jimbobx

quote:
Didnt one of Bruce COrdells novels feature an "Aboriginalesque" character who was from a place outside Faerun that started with G?


The characters name started with a 'G' - Gungarri.

I'm not sure that his place of origin was ever named. I recall he was referred to as a tattooed warrior from far away...but no more detail than that.

The novel was Lady of Poison -- part of "The Priests" series. And the "place outside Faerūn" was Osse.

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Lord Karsus
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quote:
Originally posted by The SageAnd the "place outside Faerūn" was Osse.



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The Sage
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Yes, thank you Dagnirion. You've now shown that I can find no peace from the curse that is Osse. Not even here at my beloved Candlekeep!

I suppose I should just probably go ahead and petition Alaundo to change all the "Australia" location devices in our profiles to Osstralia. Would you prefer that?

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage


I suppose I should just probably go ahead and petition Alaundo to change all the "Australia" location devices in our profiles to Osstralia. Would you prefer that?



No! I prefer "Australia", and I can't wait to visit there (eventually).

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The Sage
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I guess I'd better prepare things then.

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