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The Hooded One
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Posted - 13 Aug 2010 :  02:46:12  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Brimstone, all we know of the character you refer to (LDA) is our glimpses of her past in the Knights of Myth Drannor trilogy, what's in ELMINSTER MUST DIE, and what will be in BURY ELMINSTER DEEP (Ed has told me he won't leave the reader hanging; there WILL be something about her in that forthcoming book).
And the chapter title you quoted will make more sense to readers of the paperback editions of the book, when the chapter-head quotes and lyrics Ed wrote that were posted on the WotC website as Realmslore go into the book, to support the chapter titles above them.
Ed did say (of the character you're interested in) that she keeps struggling to "burst out and take over the whole book," but that his "wise editrix keeps stomping on her and telling Ed to keep her under control.
Now THAT'S a visual that delights me, knowing Ed as I do, and bondage as I do, and having seen Susan Morris (and her [purrrrr, delightful] tattoo, too!) from afar at GenCon, this year (I kept in hiding, not wanting to fill her with shock and dread). I must tease him about it...
as I'm QUITE good at teasing...
love,
THO
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Brimstone
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Ah, I see. I thought she seemed/sound familiar.

Thanks. Guess I need to re-read the Knights series.
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crazedventurers
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Brian Cortijo on inheritance laws in Cormyr

Cheers

Damian
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Dearest THO and Ed,

I have a question about inheritance laws in Cormyr in 1356 DR. Can the owner of an estate with no heir will it to a religious organization? I have a player in my group who is in the process of establishing a library and shrine on land he was given for services to the crown, but due to his character's sexual orientation, he does not have any children to inherit it. Can he leave the land to the library or will the title default back to the crown upon his death? Any information you can give would be much appreciated.
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This depends entirely on the land grant and its language. Most lands in Cormyr default back to the Crown if there is no one to inherit it, unless that land is specifically enumerated in a will or testament by the owner.

There are, of course, nuances to the various applicable laws. If, for example, the person is not merely landed but titled, the land (or some portion of it) may or may not be attached or associated with the knightly or noble title the character possesses--which, in turn, means that if the noble title reverts to the Crown on his death, the lands will as well.

Of course, any and all Cormyrean lands can be seized by the Crown for crimes real or imagined, or some arcane technicality built into nearly all royal land grants. Depending on the size of the property, the nature of the faith to which its been left, and the value of the particular location, they may or may not exercise that right. Although the Dragon Throne doesn't make a habit of nabbing shrines or other holy places, they're certainly willing, when the need or desire arises, to take adjacent or associate lands, or chip away at holdings to lessen the influence of a local shrine or temple.

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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Kerrigan
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Posted - 29 Aug 2010 :  09:19:12  Show Profile  Visit Kerrigan's Homepage Send Kerrigan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Volo's Guide to Cormyr (9486)

A question concerning these (formerly?) free downloads from Wizards of the Coast - are they active yet and somewhere to be found? The link always redirects me to the general WotC D&D website.
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Brimstone
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Here you go right here.

Edited by - Brimstone on 29 Aug 2010 10:59:25
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

Here you go right here.



Heh, guess I need to add that link to my list of links. I made that other list, then forgot to update my main links page!

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Ergdusch
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quote:
Originally posted by Kerrigan

quote:
Volo's Guide to Cormyr (9486)

A question concerning these (formerly?) free downloads from Wizards of the Coast - are they active yet and somewhere to be found? The link always redirects me to the general WotC D&D website.



Now, that you have brought this to my attention, I have fixed the outdated links on the list of the very first post the best I could with the help of Wooly's list, so that other scribes might not run into such difficulties again in the (near) future.

While checking the other links I have noticed that A Moment with Alusair - a promotion article for Ed's Sword of Dragonfire - has been removed from the wizards homepage. Any chance a scribe has archived it and is willing and able to share it with us in one or another?

"Das Gras weht im Wind, wenn der Wind weht."

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Brimstone
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Check this out Sage and Wooly, and other folks also.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

Check this out Sage and Wooly, and other folks also.





Good find! I'll have to add that to my list of links -- and copy all the URLs from that page, too!

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quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

Check this out Sage and Wooly, and other folks also.
Very interesting.

This warrants further examination.

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crazedventurers
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Ed on what Mellomir found in the Haunted Halls with a footnote from Eric Boyd as well

Enjoy

Damian
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Mellomir discovered a spell scroll for controlling deepspawn (essentially for
anchoring them to a spot, and commanding them who NOT to attack---i.e. the
caster and friends--not a means of riding them or anything of the sort), plus
some deepspawn that the spell had been used on, plus some other magic, plus
the gate the deepspawn were guarding.
Everything (deepspawn, too, in War Wizard-guarded covered wagons) was taken
to High Horn because the War Wizards wanted to detain Mellomir and question
him closely about what he knew or had learned that he might NOT have told
them about (nothing as it happened; he's a good and honest man), and do so
out of the public eye, in a fortress entirely controlled by the
Crown---whereas doing everything in oft-rebellious Arabel is doing it in
front of literally dozens of spies (for the Zhents, the Cult of the Dragon,
Hillsfar, many Sembian merchant cabals, several Dales, etc.).
In the 'home' Realms campaign, Mellomir was given a knighthood with some coin
and land to buy his silence about this matter, and allowed to go free with
the spell (after the War Wizards had made their copies) and with one
deepspawn, which disgorged herd animals that he happily sold, and dined upon,
retiring to a cottage west of Sembia. When Vangerdahast sent certain mages to
question him later (in a friendly manner, and about other things) they found
him gone...but be aware that Mellomir maintains residences in Waterdeep,
Secomber, Neverwinter, and Sembia as well as Cormyr, and has been seen hale
and hearty since.

===

ERIC'S COMMENT

They above-mentioned gate is apparently within the Haunted Halls. Therefore
it is probably NOT part of the webwork of two-way gates mentioned in Volo's
Guide to Waterdeep, p. 149, in the discussion of the Old Monster Shop, one
terminus of which is said to connect with a ravine in the Stonelands north of
Cormyr near the Haunted Halls.


So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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Brimstone
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THO Strikes again!

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, everyone.
Damian, to dispel confusion: Shieldwall barons have territories, usually centered on whatever home they dwell in (which is almost always fortified or at least "defensible"), and these are known as "baronies" out of convenience. They aren't "baronies" (chunks of land) in the European real-world sense, but are really "your part of the frontier to try to hold for Cormyr" if you're a Shieldwall baron. Although there are feuds and stony disagreements, wise barons work with their neighbouring barons for mutual survival.
A handful of Shieldwall baron names from Ed's notes, as of 1362 DR: Jalaskar Mueryn is Baron Snowshar, Bereld Rethammur is Baron Blackmount, and Larandarr Tathond is Baron Hawkril. All prime-of-life, burly warrior sorts installed in their "baronies" by Azoun IV after predecessors (to whom they were not related) fell in battle.


So saith Ed's notes.
love,
THO


"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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crazedventurers
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Posted - 05 Sep 2010 :  00:04:06  Show Profile  Visit crazedventurers's Homepage Send crazedventurers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
THO on the Shieldwall Barons

Cheers

Damian
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I get the sense from Ed that there are at least two dozen Shieldwall barons as of the 1350s and 1360s. As far as typical dwellings: just about anything, from caves with fortified front entrances through wooden forts with palisades, fortified stone manor houses, and, yes, the "ruins of a previous baron patched up" you mention. Not much stone castle building goes on, but a lot of repair work (winters are hard, so lots of ice "shoving" that forces walls apart occurs) happens with all stone structures.
Any baron fortunate enough to find ore deposits (or an abandoned mine, according to Ed's notes, though I've never heard of one in that area) in "their" territory is entitled to exclusively work it, and keep 80 percent of the proceeds, 20 percent going to the Crown.
There's no "claim," because the Crown owns everything. Yes, there's a LOT of mineral wealth in western Cormyr, but very little of it is easily found/worked (small veins and deposits, buried under a LOT of rock that must be removed, in monster-haunted dangerous territory with severe weather).
The Court heralds (i.e. the Crown) name all baronies; if a newly ennobled Baron is being given a "new" territory rather than taking over an existing barony (the name of which will be retained unless, in rare instances such as a noble family being exiled and stripped of their titles, the Crown doesn't want it to), that baron gets to suggest/cajole the heralds, but the Crown always has the final say, not the baron.


So saith me, operating from Ed's notes. More when I can get to talk to him (he has family visiting right now).
love,
THO

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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crazedventurers
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More from Garen Thal on Shieldwall Barons

Cheers

Damian
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Because I am always loath to step on Ed's lore that I haven't peeked at, I'll hang off on naming specific nobles of families just yet. Still, I can help with a few of your queries.

1) What are the typical dwellings for ennobled barons? wooden forts with pallisades, fortified manor houses, ruins of a previous baron patched up? How much stone castle building goes on?
In the Storm Horns, which seem to be your area of concern, shieldwall barons make due with whatever they can manage, from tent cities and hastily-constructed spear-walls to wooden keeps. The region (given its location, the difficulty of quarrying and distance from reliable sources, and the difficulty of getting skilled crews anywhere) makes stone construction very difficult.

2) If a baron is lucky enough to find a gold/silver/copper/tin/gem mine on his/her land, how do they go about registering the claim? Does the claim stay with them only or can it be passed to an heir? Is there much mineral wealth in western Cormyr?
Our Hooded Lady has answered this one fairly well. There is mineral wealth to be found in the Storm Horns, but a great majority of it is one of two types: highly concentrated lower metals in small and easily spent deposits (copper is a primary one, but also some tin and sometimes iron), and larger but spread-out veins of more valuable metals (primarily silver), which take a long time to mine before any return can be found.

3) Who decides what a barony will be called? Does the Crown and/or Heralds have a list of 'accepted' barony names or can the newly ennobled Baron Swillbuckets name himself Baron Swillbuckets of Greysword Vale (the small nameless valley he was given by the crown)? If he doesn't survive the first winter would the name be honoured by the Heralds/Crown or can a newly enobled Baron (Aerith Falcondown) rename it to the Barony of Falcondown when it is given to him?
As always, the Heralds (Crown heralds, in this case) name all baronies and other place-titles. The Crown might very well let Lord Swillbuckets become Baron of Greysword Vale, but that vale will have been named by some Herald or courtier long before the good baron has any idea what to call himself. Titles that are inherited also include their appropriate places, so the next Baron would also be of Greysword Vale.

Keep in mind, however, that Cormyr is not a feudal system but a central monarchy. There is no barony of Greysword as such, with borders and an area of authority invested in a baron. Titles in Cormyr aren't attached to any specific grant of land or tied in any way but formal declaration to a location. There's no such thing as a Cormyrean "barony."

[A brief note about titles: In Cormyr, nobles get titles that might, in the real world, by accompanied by a land grant of appropriate size and the possibility of nobles of lower rank swearing fealty to the noble. Barons gain baronial titles, but not an actual barony; similarly, dukes are given dukedoms (a ducal title) but not duchies (an assignment of land). It's easy to confuse the two, I know, but it's still the case.]

4) Can a succesful baron of good standing and years of succesful building of his barony take over the land of a new baron adjacent to his land who died within his first winter because he/she couldn't protect his land from orc attacks etc? If not what measures might the Crown take? Could the Baron buy the land rather than send his troop in to patrol/take over?
In such a case, the deceased baron's heirs (as determined by his desendants, the grant of title, and Crown decree) inherit his lands, his titles, and his responsibilities. If no heirs exist, the title and the land revert to the Crown, who might assign it to the above-mentioned baron, or might send Purple Dragons to administer the lands.

See also the note about titles, above.

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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crazedventurers
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More from Markustay on Shieldwall Barons
(with a nod of approval from Ed)

Cheers

Damian
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Considering these barons occupy much the same place in lore as 'frontier Forts' (of Kelnore? ), I would assume the decision by the crown would be based more upon an aspirant's ability to defend Cormyr's border adequately, unlike interior titles (and lands) that could be more 'casually' doled-out (for political favors and what-not).

What this means is that IF a Baron wanted his son (OR daughter - this is the Realms) to 'inherit' his parcel of land, he would have to make damn sure his progeny was ready to uphold its requirements, and be well-trained in several areas. In that case, if the child is then considered a worthy successor, he/she would move to the forefront of the list.

Bare-in-mind that this is no light matter, and some of these holds are held in a state of constant readiness - many barons mat NOT want their children to hold this office. They may have chosen this in order to win favor with the crown, in hopes of a more permanent title and land grant on the interior for their heirs.

These are also just the sort of positions and titles held by adventurers that have 'carved-out' their own niche on Cormyr's frontier. These are not your typical slothful nobles, but rather rugged warriors and frontiersmen all. It is canon that Cormyr operates in just this fashion - using adventurers to expand its marches - so as not to overly jeapardize its own soldiers and nobility while still remaining a growing and prosperous power.

This is why Cormyr embraces adventurers -something most nations frown upon as 'trouble makers' - and gives-out those adventuring charters. You get them out of the interior where they could cause problems, and have them do your dirty work for you.

Sorry for giving my own answer - Cormyr has recently become my main area of interest - any corrections or editions would be most welcome and appreciated, Ed and THO.

Right on, Markustay: Ed and I agree with all of your comments re. the Shieldwall barons. You've "got it" precisely.
love,
THO

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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THO on Azoun IV and his fertility

Cheers

Damian
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Markustay, you are ON to something, and Thauramarth is correct: Azoun WAS encouraged to be a womanizer, by Vangey (not that other War Wizards haven't toyed with the idea regarding other Obarskyrs, in the past [[yes, this directly according to Ed, not me speculating]]), in the wake of their son's (firstborn's) death, as a way of bringing some male "blood offspring" into being, well removed in strength of throne-claim from Azoun and Fee's legitimate children, but "in case" (for one thing, to have "another string to the bow" if the daughters turned out to be weak of character, and unscrupulous nobles thought of marrying them to a dominating male).
Vangey came to see this as less necessary when the daughters turned out to be strong, and Alusair almost "another Azoun" with her own way of bonding with and inculcating loyalty in the next generation of male nobles.
Then, later, Vangey saw it as more necessary again, after - - in the scene in CORMYR: A NOVEL - - the "disaster" was discovered in the royal vault. It should be noted that this was a tendency in Azoun that Vangey, as the young Azoun's tutor and companion (again, see CORMYR: A NOVEL) had become well aware of, not something Vangey had to force or magically influence Azoun into.
There are of course obvious drawbacks to Azoun womanizing with nobility (personal hatreds of him on the part of some noble husbands), but Vangey weighed two things: the personal popularity of Azoun among many male nobles (and commoners), both as a war leader and ruler, and as a likeable guy - - and the fact that the Crown's relationship with certain nobles couldn't get any worse; they are already behaving like active, if sly rather than open, traitors, so . . .
And of course this cut both ways: there were families who sought to increase their prestige, or chances at getting Court positions or contracts, or just their profile locally or among War Wizards or the Purple Dragons or at Court, by "being close with the King" and ending up with "a get of Azoun's" in their families. There were also some women who wanted this on their own, family notwithstanding. Plus the "old battle companions" of Azoun, like Tessaril Winter, whom he sought out as friends and comforting bedmates rather than as mothers for his children (but whom he'd be delighted that they were having his children IF they wanted to).
This happens to be something Ed and I (and a few others) have discussed extensively, if privately, down the years, so what I say here isn't me inventing, it's Ed's take on this. There are some other "open, waiting secrets" of the Realms like this that we don't volunteer - - but we WILL confirm, if a scribe "tumbles to them."
Wheee!
love to all,
THO


One postscript, upon reflection:
Azoun was/is no dunderhead or easily-manipulated dupe, and neither is Filfaeril. It's important not to overemphasize "Vangey as Machiavelli" here, and to avoid seeing Azoun or his queen as weak, enspelled, or oblivious. They, too, play the game of "balancing bastards and heirs" off against each other, for the good of the realm (i.e. to keep the throne strong and the Obarskyr bloodlines very much in existence, but also to prevent civil war/their own assassinations/overmuch feuding amongst the nobles).
Right. My work here is done. For a few breaths.
More lore soon,
love to all,
THO

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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Ed on Queeen Fee and her relationship with the Harpers

Cheers

Damian
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Hi again, all.
Markustay, re. your Filfaeril questions, and these:

Ed replies:


Nothing about Filfaeril is inspired by any of Frank's Dune books, because Fee was detailed and determined in my notes before I got to read the first book (it was in my father's HUGE "to read" pile, and in those days, after I'd sprung some quite adult novels on him from his collection and asked him eagerly if there were sequels, he'd decided to "vet" my borrowings from his collection. He didn't get to DUNE until 1966, when it won the first Nebula and thus got drawn to his attention; he fished it out of the pile, read it, decided it was okay for my tender brain, and handed it on to me. I was seven years old at the time, and six when DUNE came out, remember. :}
I can say that Fee works with the Harpers, sometimes deliberately against Vangerdahast, but her relationship to Those Who Harp (Dove and Storm are involved, remember) is a little more complicated than "she's a Harper agent." I have to tread carefully here because of NDAs, so I think I'll leave it at that for now. Other than to say you're on to something, and Fee is, yes, far deeper than she's been depicted in canon Realmslore thus far.
As for the Elminster questions: VERY MUCH NDA. Hint cough hint. The answer to the second one really depends on your definition of "prolonged."


So saith Ed. Hinting like mad, I see . . .
love,
THO

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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THO on the Dalestride Gate (portal) from the 'home' realms campaign

Cheers

Damian
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Hi again, all.
Iluvrien, Ed isn't talking about that particular topic right now. (I know, because I asked him about that the moment I read ELMINSTER MUST DIE!)
However, we Knights know a LITTLE about that portal from the "home" Realms campaign. It long predates Caladnei's arrival in Cormyr, and is a two-way portal that was often used by Vangerdahast to send War Wizards swiftly to the Dales, and get them back to report to him quickly, too.
Before the Time of Troubles, its very existence was a very well kept state secret of Cormyr, known to most War Wizards, a few senior courtiers, the royal family, Vangey, and a handful of Harper spies - - NOT to most folks around the Palace, and thus, many citizens of Suzail.
Florin formed the opinion, confirmed by Elminster with a silent nod at one point (at least, all of us who were present are pretty sure that's what the Old Mage was confirming), that the portal ("gate" to us, remember; all of this lore predates the game edition change that introduced the term "portal" to widespread use in D&D) was created as an "escape route" for Obarskyrs in the case of assassination or usurpation: a fast way out of the realm that royals could take, hopefully with War Wizard or other loyal bodyguards, to go into hiding and survive for a later attempt to reclaim the Dragon Throne.
Yes, it's a two-way portal, but the reason for its creation was to create a way to get out, not to establish a permanent vulnerability for invasion into the heart of the Royal Palace of Suzail (THAT was an unavoidable cost).
Or so we believe.
As I said, Ed isn't talking. Yet. Perhaps we'll all learn more in BURY ELMINSTER DEEP. Or later sequels.
love,
THO

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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Ed on Vangy's Mage Sigil

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Damian
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Hi, Damian!
The triangles represent Vangey's three masters/three life foci:
Mystra (and the Art = magic), Jorunhast (Vangey's tutor and predecessor as Royal Magician), and Cormyr (the Obarskyrs, the Dragon Throne; the realm to be guarded so it will survive and flourish, and that guarding to be done with magic and to preserve a realm in which magic is important and prized).
I was WONDERING when someone would ask about this . . . :}


So saith Ed. And there you have it; another little secret of the Realms revealed . . .
love,
THO


So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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Edited by - crazedventurers on 31 Oct 2010 00:18:13
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crazedventurers
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Posted - 31 Oct 2010 :  08:35:56  Show Profile  Visit crazedventurers's Homepage Send crazedventurers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
More from THO on Vangy

Cheers

Damian
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And hello again, everyone. Damian, a proper answer from Ed will be forthcoming, but I can tell you quickly that Vangey not only worships Azuth, he has a close relationship with him, and the choice of triangles as a shape used in his sigil actually has something to do with that [[Ed hasn't yet revealed more than that in play, so I'm as much in the dark as you are]]. The triangles are the same size to denote being in balance with each other (or Vangey striving to keep them in balance, throughout his life), yes.
Vangey isn't a prolific spell-creator. For one thing, he's always been too busy, and for another, he's always been the sort of caster who uses a spell created by someone else, sees its shortcomings, and sets about "improving" it for his own purposes, more than he sits down to create something new or has magical inspiration strike him out of the blue.
Yet he has indeed created some spells, and Ed will, I hope, soon tell you more . . .
love,
THO

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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Posted - 01 Nov 2010 :  12:24:18  Show Profile  Visit crazedventurers's Homepage Send crazedventurers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
THO on millers in Cormyr

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Damian
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Although the miller is sometimes a tenant, in a mill owned by a local noble family (usually because they were a creditor to a miller who went bust), most Cormyrean millers own their own mills. Important note: millers hold a royal licence that allows them to dam/constrict the free flow of the watercourse, and it can be revoked if they misbehave (under-report their milling to evade taxes, refuse to mill anyone's grain, steal from those who bring them grain to be milled by taking more than their share of the milled result, etc.). Meaning their mill is shut down, its grindstones removed. They can then either pay fines and plead to have it reopened, or sell it to someone else to run. Long ago, one miller refused to recognize the authority of the crown over him, and burned down his mill after it was shut down. A member of the royal family was on hand to witness the defiance, and with his permission, a local War Wizard shut the miller inside his own privy, which became the man's pyre when the flames from the mill reached it.
(This mill lore is all paraphrased from Ed's notes, by me.)

love to all,
THO

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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Posted - 07 Nov 2010 :  00:31:25  Show Profile  Visit crazedventurers's Homepage Send crazedventurers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
THO on Wizards of War, the records they keep and the blood they shed

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Damian
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Hi again, all.
Mr. Miscellany, here's a first stab at some answers, from me (Ed will bat cleanup, in my wake, when he has the opportunity):
War Wizard writings are secret, scattered and hidden, coded, and sparse: forbidden about most topics, though all of the things you mention are recorded somewhere, somehow (Alaphondar and his predecessors are one place to ask for them, as is the current Court Wizard, which from Vangerdahast onwards has been a post held by the Royal Magician rather than, as formerly, a separate one).
No, there's no "instant recall" in any Royal Magician's head. There ARE some "magically-recorded remembrances" captured in items that can be accessed by anyone with sufficient skill-at-Art, who knows where the items are and how to handle them. "Some," I said, not a lot. There's no such thing as an existing coherent and comprehensive history of the War Wizards, so if the Crown for some reason wanted such a thing, they'd have to try to cobble it together by asking all sorts of people. Vangerdahast is really the font of knowledge for the "modern" Wizards of War, and he's still around, but getting to speak to him, and even more importantly convincing him to give truthful answers, is going to be VERY difficult for anyone but the reigning monarch . . . and even they will have no way of knowing, most of the time, if he's lying or omitting important details of the truth.
The novels depict the War Wizards dashing about not giving reasons largely because the novels tend to highlight crises/moments of peril/combat and confrontation. However, the War Wizards are NOT in the habit of explaining themselves, just as real-world police and government agents will only reveal or share the information they want to, not submit to on the street interrogations by any average citizen they may speak with. Journal writing by active (not retired) War Wizards is forbidden unless it's kept coded and hidden, and even retired War Wizards risk reprisals if they reveal state secrets (under some Royal Magicians and some monarches, that also seems to extend to "relating anything embarrassing about us").
All War Wizards give vials of blood as part of their initiation or shortly before or after. I'll leave it to Ed about hair, etc. because I'm not certain of the details.
love,
THO

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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Posted - 12 Nov 2010 :  11:50:04  Show Profile  Visit crazedventurers's Homepage Send crazedventurers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
THO on Cormytes remembering the dead

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Damian
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Hi, Damian. Ed will have to make proper answer, of course, but the short version is this: that the morning of the Feast of the Moon is devoted to last-minute preparations, around highsun there's a Call (warhorns, from battlements) and then a march (to slow music) for the war fallen (civilian casualties as well as soldiery) from a fortress or waypost through a village/town/city to a monument (or lacking that, temple, or lacking THAT, a market square or known war grave). There's a ceremony there, then usually an inspiraional speech about the realm being strong and a bright future for Cormyr, then the feast begins, and goes well into the night, being eating and drinking and spoken remembrances of the dead (everybody's dead, that is; all the ancestors and their tales and toasts and salutes and thanks to them).
love,
THO


So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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The other day I came acorss a new NPC to add to my list of people of Cormyr:

Rogart Perilhaven, a 9th level Ranger of neutral good alignment, being on a secret spy mission to Corm Orp for Cormyr.

He is mentioned/introduced in 'Training Grounds', an adventure from Dungeon Magazine #67, p. 34.


"Das Gras weht im Wind, wenn der Wind weht."
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The link to "A Moment with Alusair" (pg. 3 of this scroll) doesn't work.

SiNafay Vrinn, the daughter of Lloth, from Ched Nasad!

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