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Nokom
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Posted - 23 Aug 2006 :  19:51:36  Show Profile  Visit Nokom's Homepage Send Nokom a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I am thinking of buying this. Before I do tell the this: Is it any good? Is it worth $4.95?

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quote:
Originally posted by Nokom

I am thinking of buying this. Before I do tell the this: Is it any good? Is it worth $4.95?



In my opinion, it's the third best of the Volo's Guides, and one of the best sourcebooks around. The only Volo's Guides I like better are Volo's Guide to Waterdeep and Volo's Guide to All Things Magical (formerly a suppressed work , now available as a free download from the Wizards downloads page).

In pdf or print (I have both), it's well worth the $5.

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Agrees with Wooly, though for me VGttSC ranks as second, above that of VGtATM.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Agrees with Wooly, though for me VGttSC ranks as second, above that of VGtATM.




Well, the Volo's Guides are the best regional sourcebooks available, at least for the inhabited parts of the Realms. Going for regional descriptions, Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast would be the second pick. But overall, I'd have to say that Volo's Guide to All Things Magical (formerly a suppressed work ) slightly edges it out, because of the wealth of magical lore -- especially the material on magical properties of various materials.

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I'd say all of the Volo's Guides are worth having, as would many people here.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
In my opinion, it's the third best of the Volo's Guides, and one of the best sourcebooks around. The only Volo's Guides I like better are Volo's Guide to Waterdeep and Volo's Guide to All Things Magical (formerly a suppressed work , now available as a free download from the Wizards downloads page).

In pdf or print (I have both), it's well worth the $5.



I don't count Volo's Guide to All Things Magical as a "Volo's" guide..it was more like a "Tome of Faerunian Magic" with Volo's finger prints...it was a really good book but the "Volo Guides" are like travelogues that gave alot of flavour to the Realms, more than any other Realkms product IMHO

I just wish they would have continued into the East and South

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Well, the Volo's Guides are the best regional sourcebooks available, at least for the inhabited parts of the Realms. Going for regional descriptions, Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast would be the second pick.
Aye.

Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II tends to come in before Volo's Guide to Cormyr for me, in terms of the regional Volo's Guides.

quote:
But overall, I'd have to say that Volo's Guide to All Things Magical (formerly a suppressed work ) slightly edges it out, because of the wealth of magical lore -- especially the material on magical properties of various materials.
In that case, I agree.

Though Ed's Spellfire section (and a few others -- like the material on the magical properites of various materials) ensures that it would rank second overall in terms of ALL Volo's Guides.

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To answer the original question, yes, this book is worth owning, especially if you love the Western Heartlands. The drawings in it are wonderful too.

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quote:
Originally posted by Reefy

I'd say all of the Volo's Guides are worth having, as would many people here.



Indeed. I made a point of buying pdfs of the ones that aren't free for downloading, just so I'd have them handy at work.

I'm another who mourns the discontinuation of that product line. As I've said more than once, the Volo's Guides make the Realms come alive, unlike any other sourcebook before or since.

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Jorkens
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I think other scribes have said what needs to be said about the Volo guides, but just for the record: In my opinion a Volo guide is among the best realms products you can find and Volo's guide to the Sword Coast is one of the best in the series. Yes its worth $4.95
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Eremite
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Posted - 24 Aug 2006 :  08:38:03  Show Profile  Visit Eremite's Homepage Send Eremite a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's a great book! I cannot tell you how many campaign and adventure ideas it inspired when it was first released... and probably would again next time I go back to it.

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Ryss Firemaster
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I'll just take this chance to make my own little inquiry. Have the guide to Baldurs Gatet become available for downloading anywhere?

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If you mean Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II, it came out too late to be part of the ESD programme.
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I came late to that game, what kind of guide was it? We're not talking about the second half of the manual, are we?

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Hoondatha

I came late to that game, what kind of guide was it? We're not talking about the second half of the manual, are we?

No. 'Tis a fully detailed Volo's Guide style sourcebook to Amn and some of the surrounding environs, some of which were featured in the game itself.

Overall, a worthy addition to the VG line.

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quote:
Originally posted by Hoondatha

I came late to that game, what kind of guide was it? We're not talking about the second half of the manual, are we?



Nope. You're thinking of Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate. Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II was an actual product, a kind of regional sourcebook/supplement to the game combo. It's got some good stuff, but the thinnest page count of the proper Volo's Guides.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Reefy

I'd say all of the Volo's Guides are worth having, as would many people here.



Indeed. I made a point of buying pdfs of the ones that aren't free for downloading, just so I'd have them handy at work.




Just where can you buy PDFs of the Volos?
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quote:
Originally posted by Ardashir

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Reefy

I'd say all of the Volo's Guides are worth having, as would many people here.



Indeed. I made a point of buying pdfs of the ones that aren't free for downloading, just so I'd have them handy at work.




Just where can you buy PDFs of the Volos?



rpgnow.com or paizo's web site, you know the Dragon/Dungeon people.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ardashir

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Reefy

I'd say all of the Volo's Guides are worth having, as would many people here.



Indeed. I made a point of buying pdfs of the ones that aren't free for downloading, just so I'd have them handy at work.




Just where can you buy PDFs of the Volos?



I got mine from Paizo.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ardashir

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Reefy

I'd say all of the Volo's Guides are worth having, as would many people here.



Indeed. I made a point of buying pdfs of the ones that aren't free for downloading, just so I'd have them handy at work.




Just where can you buy PDFs of the Volos?

Note however, there is no PDF for Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II, as Faraer previously noted.

If you looking for a copy of this particular Guide, you're going to have to try the sites Kuje mentioned, for printed copies at reasonable prices (US$).

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i too love the Volo's Guides. For $4.95, its a steal. They really add backround to the various parts of the realms. If you campaign in that area, get it. If not, get it.



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I just bought Volo's guide to the North, Baldur's Gate 2, and the Sword Coast at the DragonCon dealers room for a combined total of $23. They're great!

Does anybody know a typical price for the "Faces of Evil" book? One dealer was offerring it for $65, but that was much more than I was willing to pay for a relatively thin book that I coudn't even leaf through...
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quote:
Originally posted by lowtech

I just bought Volo's guide to the North, Baldur's Gate 2, and the Sword Coast at the DragonCon dealers room for a combined total of $23. They're great!

Does anybody know a typical price for the "Faces of Evil" book? One dealer was offerring it for $65, but that was much more than I was willing to pay for a relatively thin book that I coudn't even leaf through...



65 seems to be a good price, the ebay store has it for 67, abe books has it for 100+, amazon has it for 67 to 100+. I forgot what I paid for it but most Planescape material, especially the box sets, cost you a bit. I paid 100+ for one of my Planes of box sets.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by lowtech

I just bought Volo's guide to the North, Baldur's Gate 2, and the Sword Coast at the DragonCon dealers room for a combined total of $23. They're great!

Does anybody know a typical price for the "Faces of Evil" book? One dealer was offerring it for $65, but that was much more than I was willing to pay for a relatively thin book that I coudn't even leaf through...

65 seems to be a good price, the ebay store has it for 67, abe books has it for 100+, amazon has it for 67 to 100+.
Agreed.

When nobleknight.com and dragontrove.com were offering near-mint copies of Faces of Evil for sale, they ranged between $55 and $70 US, so $65 US doesn't seem that far out of scope.

quote:
I forgot what I paid for it but most Planescape material, especially the box sets, cost you a bit. I paid 100+ for one of my Planes of box sets.
Which makes me so glad that I purchased the original boxed sets upon their initial releases.

Planes of Law is currently available at my local gaming store... though it carries a $150 AUS price tage.

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I never cared that much for Planescape, but seeing these prices it sort of annoys me that my Planes of Chaos and Campaign setting boxes (only opened once each) seem to have disappeared somehow.

Strange, except for one part of a three part module for another system its the only gaming material I own that I can not find.
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
I forgot what I paid for it but most Planescape material, especially the box sets, cost you a bit. I paid 100+ for one of my Planes of box sets.
Which makes me so glad that I purchased the original boxed sets upon their initial releases.

Planes of Law is currently available at my local gaming store... though it carries a $150 AUS price tage.



wow! I got that box set (Planes of Law) in a clearance at a comic shop for $15 canadian!

I am always amazed how much these books go for now..I am afraid to tally my whole collection...may have to get an insurance policy for it!

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quote:
Originally posted by kalin agrivar

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
I forgot what I paid for it but most Planescape material, especially the box sets, cost you a bit. I paid 100+ for one of my Planes of box sets.
Which makes me so glad that I purchased the original boxed sets upon their initial releases.

Planes of Law is currently available at my local gaming store... though it carries a $150 AUS price tage.



wow! I got that box set (Planes of Law) in a clearance at a comic shop for $15 canadian!

I am always amazed how much these books go for now..I am afraid to tally my whole collection...may have to get an insurance policy for it!



As do I. I've had to spend at least 3k american on RPG sourcebooks if not more, and I'm still working on completing some things that I'm missing for Ravenloft, Dungeon, Dragon. Even some of the FR tomes I've paid 50 to 100 for like Code of the Harpers or Seven Sisters. This was before the PDF program and some of the prices seem to have fallen since the online versions have come out, but I'd rather have a hard copy because reading large pieces of text on the puter makes my eyes ache.

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quote:
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As do I. I've had to spend at least 3k american on RPG sourcebooks if not more, and I'm still working on completing some things that I'm missing for Ravenloft, Dungeon, Dragon. Even some of the FR tomes I've paid 50 to 100 for like Code of the Harpers or Seven Sisters. This was before the PDF program and some of the prices seem to have fallen since the online versions have come out, but I'd rather have a hard copy because reading large pieces of text on the puter makes my eyes ache.



I agree...a hard copy is much better...I ahve about 1/2 the Planescape collection and have supplemented it with PDFs...the most I have ever spent on one book is $100 american for the Throne of Bloodstone module..I guess I am lucky as I bought most of my collection when it was new...

is there a thread on comparing (ahem, bragging ) about collections? There is a few things I would still like to get

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quote:
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I agree...a hard copy is much better...I ahve about 1/2 the Planescape collection and have supplemented it with PDFs...the most I have ever spent on one book is $100 american for the Throne of Bloodstone module..I guess I am lucky as I bought most of my collection when it was new...

is there a thread on comparing (ahem, bragging ) about collections? There is a few things I would still like to get



This thread seems to have turned into that bragging thread and yeah, well, I didn't buy many of the 1e and 2e D&D sourcebooks when they first came out because I didn't know about them until late 2e. :) Now, I've spent way to much, and I still am spending, to complete some of my sets. Sigh, I still need that 1 Bloodstone module, Bloodstone Pass, to finish the FR sourcebooks but not the Dragon/Dungeon/Polyhedron articles that were published for FR.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
65 seems to be a good price, the ebay store has it for 67, abe books has it for 100+, amazon has it for 67 to 100+. I forgot what I paid for it but most Planescape material, especially the box sets, cost you a bit. I paid 100+ for one of my Planes of box sets.



I was afraid of that. Does anybody know where I can find Planescape PDF's (um, so long as its not against candlekeep policy)?
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