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Cam Beul
Acolyte
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 Posted - 09 May 2006 : 04:22:30
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Definately. What I thought was clever was that while he pushed the limits, he never quite went "too" far. It's like he knew what Quenthel could stand and danced around it annoyingly. Then again, one could say he went too far the whole time, and that's why she betrayed him.
Like most people, I hated the fact that he died. Although I liked every book of the series, I liked that one the least. What I couldn't stand about Ryld's death is that he didn't quite find his place before he died: I think hes going to be on the Wall.
But anyway, I'm elated to find out that there is going to be a novel on Vhok and Aliisza, especially since I found that having evil characters as the main characters was really refreshing. Mr. Reid already has a customer in me no matter what, but I would still be overjoyed if Pharaun made an appearance.
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Braveheart
Learned Scribe
Austria
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Posted - 09 May 2006 : 08:33:05
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Originally posted by Cam Beul
Like most people, I hated the fact that he died. Although I liked every book of the series, I liked that one the least. What I couldn't stand about Ryld's death is that he didn't quite find his place before he died: I think hes going to be on the Wall.
Hm, didn't he meet Halisstra on his way to the Demonweb Pits? |
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Entreri: "And the real thing can kill you whether you believe in it or not." |
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Jindael
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 09 May 2006 : 13:46:27
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Originally posted by Braveheart
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Originally posted by Cam Beul
Like most people, I hated the fact that he died. Although I liked every book of the series, I liked that one the least. What I couldn't stand about Ryld's death is that he didn't quite find his place before he died: I think hes going to be on the Wall.
Hm, didn't he meet Halisstra on his way to the Demonweb Pits?
Yup. He was marching along like a good follower of Lolth. His soul is accounted for. |
"You don't have a Soul. You are a Soul. You have a body."
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Mortic
Acolyte
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Posted - 10 May 2006 : 11:54:24
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| Well my problems isnt that Ryld and Pharaun died, its more the way it happens, and espcecially book 5 (i think it is) where it seems like the Writer is trying to justify Ryld being killed. The writer describes him more evil and careless than he has been in the other books. This I see as more destroying the series than anything els. |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 13 May 2006 : 16:58:11
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| Pharaun was one of the best realms characters I have read about in several years, and his death was just......unnecessary. I want him to come back more than I can adequately express in words. |
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Reignir
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 07 Jun 2009 : 21:04:14
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First off I want to be clear - Pharuans needs to come back. I've recently finished WotSQ, with Pharaun being my absolute favorite (topping even Entreri). Then I remembered something. Near the end of book 6, Valas Hune reappears, and makes an entrence for Road of the Patriarch (he set up a contract with Kimmuriel, remember?). But recall his impact on the situation. Of the party, one came back - Quenthel, the High Priestess. I have no idea how to interpret that, but it seems like that should have an impact on us. Maybe thats why Pharaun's death was necessary.
Also, others were discussing deaths and resurrections. Um, Drizzt died, remember? I mean sure, it wasn't ever going to be permenant, but still.. Entreri killed him - and he came back. What about Bruenor.. He...kinda...died..? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 07 Jun 2009 : 22:13:55
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Originally posted by Reignir
Also, others were discussing deaths and resurrections. Um, Drizzt died, remember? I mean sure, it wasn't ever going to be permenant, but still.. Entreri killed him - and he came back. What about Bruenor.. He...kinda...died..?
In what book did Drizzt die? I'm not recalling reading this, or seeing any other commentary on it...
Back on topic, for me Pharaun was one of the few high points of the WotSQ books. He wasn't enough to make the books likable, but he was himself a very likable character. The whole finger-souvenir thing very much made me expect a resurrection, but we've not yet seen that. |
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mnb128
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 : 01:11:19
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Reignir
Also, others were discussing deaths and resurrections. Um, Drizzt died, remember? I mean sure, it wasn't ever going to be permenant, but still.. Entreri killed him - and he came back. What about Bruenor.. He...kinda...died..?
In what book did Drizzt die? I'm not recalling reading this, or seeing any other commentary on it...
Back on topic, for me Pharaun was one of the few high points of the WotSQ books. He wasn't enough to make the books likable, but he was himself a very likable character. The whole finger-souvenir thing very much made me expect a resurrection, but we've not yet seen that.
SPOILER! (Highlight space below to read)
He almost died in Servant of the Shard, but was healed just prior to entering Mieliki's grove...so to speak.
I liked Pharaun, but for me Nimoor was the most captivating character of the series. Pharaun for sarcasm. Nimoor for intrigue. I'd like to see them both again, but I doubt we ever will. |
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 : 09:36:13
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
In what book did Drizzt die? I'm not recalling reading this, or seeing any other commentary on it...
Perhaps this is what he meant, though Drizzt still did not actually die:
Spoiler: At the end of The Silent Blade, Entreri is given a kinetic barrier spell by Kimmuriel Oblodra which allows him to essentially rip Drizzt's heart out of his chest. He is seen bleeding out, with the blood flow quite faint, his body lying completely still (TSB, P4:C23).
However, we are then told that Drizzt was only dying--not completely dead--and that Rai'gy healed Drizzt's "dying form" (TSB, Epi.). Interestingly enough, Jarlaxle tells us that the healing spell was granted by Lolth! :/Spoiler |
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mnb128
Learned Scribe
USA
130 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jun 2009 : 16:41:15
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Originally posted by BEAST
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
In what book did Drizzt die? I'm not recalling reading this, or seeing any other commentary on it...
Perhaps this is what he meant, though Drizzt still did not actually die:
Spoiler: At the end of The Silent Blade, Entreri is given a kinetic barrier spell by Kimmuriel Oblodra which allows him to essentially rip Drizzt's heart out of his chest. He is seen bleeding out, with the blood flow quite faint, his body lying completely still (TSB, P4:C23).
However, we are then told that Drizzt was only dying--not completely dead--and that Rai'gy healed Drizzt's "dying form" (TSB, Epi.). Interestingly enough, Jarlaxle tells us that the healing spell was granted by Lolth! :/Spoiler
I stand corrected. I meant TSB not SotSH. |
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swifty
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 10 Jun 2009 : 23:49:00
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Originally posted by khorne
Pharaun was one of the best realms characters I have read about in several years, and his death was just......unnecessary. I want him to come back more than I can adequately express in words.
i havent read the empyrrean oddysey trilogy yet but if pharun dosent come back so what.great character but sometimes its good to go after one series.gives him a cult appeal.better than being flogged to death like a certain other dark elf. |
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Thoughts on Pharaun [SPOILERS for WotSQ]
