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synboy
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Posted - 01 Sep 2006 :  16:00:36  Show Profile  Visit synboy's Homepage Send synboy a Private Message
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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 01 Sep 2006 :  16:03:03  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message
Hi Ed and THO, want to know more thingies...

Hmmm, Evereska, we got some info via the Volo Guide and also some through Troy Denning's and Elaine Cunningham's novels, but I'd love to learn more about that city; its history, people etc.

The other, for me, would be Anauroch/Shade.

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Posted - 01 Sep 2006 :  16:21:48  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Also, Ed has a query for all of you: what do you feel has been the most neglected place and character in the Realms? He's not looking for really obscure "never covered" elements here, but rather ones that published Realmslore have left you wanting to know more about . . . but that we've then "not delivered." The intriguing want-to-know-more-abouts, in other words. Please post them here, and I'll relay them to Ed the moment he and I are back in contact.
love to all,
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Well, that's a fairly broad area to cover, as I see it. There's plenty from both 1e and 2e that I'd like to see receive some new attention.

Give me some time to think about it.

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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 01 Sep 2006 :  16:48:46  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage  Click to see Neriandal Freit's MSN Messenger address Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message
I can already hear Kuje pulling out a list of things and suggestions...:P

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Mkhaiwati
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Posted - 01 Sep 2006 :  16:58:17  Show Profile  Visit Mkhaiwati's Homepage Send Mkhaiwati a Private Message
Wormtower in Cormyr. That is (at least to me) a good mystery, and with the Cult of the Dragon's activities during the Rage of the Dragons, a good subject to find more about.

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Beirnadri Magranth
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Posted - 01 Sep 2006 :  17:32:02  Show Profile  Visit Beirnadri Magranth's Homepage  Send Beirnadri Magranth an AOL message Send Beirnadri Magranth a Private Message
Ed, do have any ideas on what Myth Drannor is going to be called post-final gate. I think the reclaiming of the ruined city is such an important event that it warrants a name change. I figured that it would be named after one of the three main heroes... the hero of old Myth Drannor and its new savior- Fflar Starbrow Melruth; or after the crusader lord/martyr Seiveril Mieritar and his daughter, the new queen; or after the celestial high mage who restored the mythal and defeated an archfiend and his feryi slave-queen... Aeravin Teshurr.

I liked
Myth Teshurr
or plain the City of Mieritar
or maybe even longer names like
Myth Mieritar Teshurr (even though it sounds very "Warcraft-y")

I'm not sure if you have decided or if WoTC will give you sole naming rights but its just a question even if it is too soon to tell.

EDIT: I came up w/ more names lol:
Myth Mieritardrannor
or Mieritardrannor (mee-AIR-ih-tard-ran-or)
a.k.a. Myth Teshurr.
Myth Teshurrdrannor (teh-SHURE-dr'-nor)

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Mace Hammerhand
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quote:
Originally posted by Beirnadri Magranth

Ed, do have any ideas on what Myth Drannor is going to be called post-final gate. I think the reclaiming of the ruined city is such an important event that it warrants a name change. I figured that it would be named after one of the three main heroes... the hero of old Myth Drannor and its new savior- Fflar Starbrow Melruth; or after the crusader lord/martyr Seiveril Mieritar and his daughter, the new queen; or after the celestial high mage who restored the mythal and defeated an archfiend and his feryi slave-queen... Aeravin Teshurr.

I liked
Myth Teshurr
or plain the City of Mieritar
or maybe even longer names like
Myth Mieritar Teshurr (even though it sounds very "Warcraft-y")

I'm not sure if you have decided or if WoTC will give you sole naming rights but its just a question even if it is too soon to tell.




Maybe Myth Ology

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Kuje
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Posted - 01 Sep 2006 :  18:16:00  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Well, that's a fairly broad area to cover, as I see it. There's plenty from both 1e and 2e that I'd like to see receive some new attention.

Give me some time to think about it.




quote:
Originally posted by Neriandal Freit

I can already hear Kuje pulling out a list of things and suggestions...:P



Grins,

Well that's my problem with this. There are hundreds of NPC's I'd love to see more lore about, so I'm going to have a hard time making a list. But I could narrow it down to this:

I'd like to see more about the sons and daughters of the Knights of Myth Drannor and the NPC's that are allies of them, like the rulers of Shadowdale. The sons and daughters of the King and Queen of the Moonshaes. More about the clergy of the various temples or the high priests/priestesses that have been mentioned. I'd like to know more about the past magisters as well. Secrets of the Magister is good but it only contains a sample of info about them.

As for places..... there's so many! There's temples, ruins, nations, cities.... I dunno. Maybe expand on some of the places from the volo's guides. The dungeon listing in the back of the FRCS would be a good place to start to give us more details on those places. :)

This is to hard for me to answer. :)

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Edited by - Kuje on 01 Sep 2006 19:02:16
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Jorkens
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At your service dear Lady
(Wraowwh)


Now, back to your question; I would like to hear more about anything cultural and non-combat related really. Each city's hats and headgear, the poetic traditions of each culture, Philosophies, architectural style dominating etc. In short, I want it all.

The ecology could be fleshed out, so could the place of many of the npc's in society (family, children, friends etc.)Dragon Coast and The Vast should be more closely detailed to fill out their role in Faerun.

What is sorely lacking is deep lore on most of the non-human peoples. We have heard about elves and dwarves, but what do we know of, for example the bugbear? Satyrs and Korred, how do they relate to the realms and what are their thoughts?

I would want to see books on any subjects in the form of dwarves deep, but if I were to pick one single thing it would be Eds own thoughts on how the creatures of the realms, humanoid, monster, any creature that interacts on an intellectual level with the rest of the realms.

Sorry, it is difficult to narrow down my wishes for the Realms anymore than this.
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Sian
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Posted - 01 Sep 2006 :  19:36:57  Show Profile  Visit Sian's Homepage  Click to see Sian's MSN Messenger address Send Sian a Private Message
would love to read some lore on Halaruaa and Nimbal :) ... there is like nothing but those parts in Shining south (and thats even at a mininum for Nimbal's part) and then what ... 3-4(?) books happening around there ...

what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month
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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 01 Sep 2006 :  19:51:43  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message
Sian, check this for Nimbral: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rl/20040811a

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Kalin Agrivar
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Posted - 01 Sep 2006 :  19:53:40  Show Profile  Visit Kalin Agrivar's Homepage  Click to see Kalin Agrivar's MSN Messenger address Send Kalin Agrivar a Private Message
I vote Sossal...and then maybe the Utter North region, like north of Icewind Dale (like that tiny timbit of information in the MM IV about the gnolls in the Tortured Lands)

I can't think of anywhere else in the Realms where there is the least information than Sossal...there have been no novels placed there and only hints and scraps of information about these people, even though what has been given about Sossal's people it is a powerful kingdom and they have an unique and vast culture

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Dewaint
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Well met

Please excuse me if this topic was already covered but ...
i would like to read some lore about the Ice Queen who destroyed Myth Ondath. About how she came in possesion of the Gatekeeper's Crystal, her fate and the fate of the lich Vrandak the Burnished. Is she somewhere around? Why was Myth Ondath attacked?

Well about the place/region ...
I think Sossal is a very good choice.

Maybe the region of the Great Ice Sea with the ruins of Winterkeep, Many-Windowed Tower and the Great Spire.

another candidate could be region north of the Tortured Lands. Some update of the informations given in the old polyhedron mags would be nice.






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The Sage
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Okay Ed,

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

More about the clergy of the various temples or the high priests/priestesses that have been mentioned.
This works for me... so let me just quote it for added effect.

I'd like to see more on the various clergies... expanding on initial references in Faiths & Avatars.

quote:
As for places..... there's so many! There's temples, ruins, nations, cities.... I dunno. Maybe expand on some of the places from the volo's guides. The dungeon listing in the back of the FRCS would be a good place to start to give us more details on those places. :)
My initial thoughts here would've been for the Border Kingdoms... but you've already seen to that .

Hmmm... The Dragon Coast has always fascinated me -- not the specific cities that make it up, but the Coast in general... its history, its cultures, its growth and development. I loved the featured bits of Dragon Coast history you presented in Temptation of Elminster. That, coupled with the few bits and pieces in various 1e/2e/3e sources, while good, has left me thinking that there's still plenty more to learn.

quote:
This is to hard for me to answer. :)
Indeed.

I want to think on this a little more.

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Kazzaroth
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Well, I am not realmslore expert from far shot. But I think it would be 'refreshing' to get novel which main characther is something what most common folks would consider as monster or some pest eliminated. Like a goblin survivor after adventurers comed bash goblin's clan over just because the goblins lived too near to local community for it's liking. Of course more story could be involved but it would be intresting know what realmsian orc, goblin, kobold etc thinks and feels other more dominant human cultures and the heroes and adventurers.

Also I have intrest to four characthers/subjects also, which I would want appear somepoint in novel(s) more often, but then again I may be forgetting or not knowing novels where find these two inviduals making appearance. Firstly I am intrested is Shuruppak, I want learn more about him and how he becomed Gilgeam's chosen and what he today thinks and is his madness just manifestation of genious mind or just being otherwise unreasonably mad.

Second would be any novel dedicated to psion abilities possessing invidual and about 'invisible art' and would introduce some already published psionic organizations (in Skullport there is one, Everaska haves also elven psion users and also about the lost psionic civlization whcih was drowned by the sea in ancient time).

Third would be any invidual (or group) of descendants of Mystra's or (or any god's) chosen. I would be intrested to learn how person feels or thinks about to be a grandchild to examply Alustriel and what sort of life they lead (some hints are seen in Last Mythal trilogy).

Fourth would be the single vampire (actually a master vampire when seeing his stats in Splendors of Waterdeep book) resident in the Waterdeep. Bit more information about him would be nice :).

Edited by - Kazzaroth on 02 Sep 2006 12:50:47
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Archwizard
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I've always felt that the Shaar (& Eastern Shaar) were underexposed. Especially the Shaar since it has a good number of settlements and geographical features. It is also close to the vital Amn/Tethyr/Calimshan - Lake of Steam - Jhaamdath/Vilhon Reach/Chondath regions. Nearby countries like Tharsult and Lapaliiya, and areas like Shaareach and the Bandit Wastes could be good places to take a good look at. Seeing as the region has so much space, there must be plenty of things there that were never mentioned. These areas could be a good follow up to the Border Kingdoms since they're right next door.

Also, Murghom and Semphar always seem to be relegated to "fringe area." They were sort of overlaid with a near east flavor, but even then they were treated as secondary in the sourcebooks they were mentioned in. Infomation about the two countries was pretty vague and uninspiring, considering the Old Empires nearby had the cool premise of "stomping grounds of god-kings."
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Dargoth
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Also, Ed has a query for all of you: what do you feel has been the most neglected place and character in the Realms? He's not looking for really obscure "never covered" elements here, but rather ones that published Realmslore have left you wanting to know more about . . . but that we've then "not delivered." The intriguing want-to-know-more-abouts, in other words. Please post them here, and I'll relay them to Ed the moment he and I are back in contact.
love to all,
THO



Well the top of the list would have to be the Bane, Bhaal and Mykrul story and more info on Banes return would also be good.

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Skeptic
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quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth
Well the top of the list would have to be the Bane, Bhaal and Mykrul story and more info on Banes return would also be good.



Bane's return get another vote, that or Hesperdan (we all want to know if he's El's clone ) ! Another idea would be the Sorceress in Gray or that one who desintegrated a small island, I always forgot her name.

Edited by - Skeptic on 02 Sep 2006 07:02:02
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George Krashos
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For me, Hesperdan.

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Thangorn
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Good question,

Definitely Whitehorn, Myth Ondath and that whole region including the region underneath that region. Lots of interesting snippets about it that really piqued my interest..

Other than that Bell in the Depths is a site I'd like to get some info on as I have only got snippets...

And my final call for a city I'd like to see fleshed out, Mulmaster..


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Na-Gang
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Well.

Another vote here for:

The Bane, Bhaal, Myrkul origin and the return of Bane

Plus:

The lands of Sammarash, Veldorn, Tharsult, and ruined Peleveria (including, of course, the origins of Gargauth), Moander, Moander, Moander.
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Kazzaroth
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I vote yes also to the story of the Bane, Bhaal and Myrkul (before they becomed gods, those three are so far the few people who becomed gods via trough own achievements, evil as people can come but admirable because of their epic accomplishments).
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Ladejarl
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The LadeJarl adds his suport here:
quote:
Originally posted by Kazzaroth

I vote yes also to the story of the Bane, Bhaal and Myrkul (before they becomed gods, those three are so far the few people who becomed gods via trough own achievements, evil as people can come but admirable because of their epic accomplishments).


and here:
quote:
More about the clergy of the various temples or the high priests/priestesses that have been mentioned.

I will continue to ponder on this matter whilest down in the dungeons.

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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 02 Sep 2006 :  14:18:04  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage  Click to see Neriandal Freit's MSN Messenger address Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message
Naw, I dont want much more about those three deities. I like the story of the gods as much as the next person, but, I'd also just like to see more infomation about places that we already ask questions about, peoples we already ask questions about.

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Skeptic
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Another idea : The new elven land in the "Far North" because it seems that Elaine won't be writing on it.
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