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Dargoth
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Posted - 12 Jul 2006 :  04:13:36  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message
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I'm sure troll mommies just tear off an arm......
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Thats Troll sexual reproduction

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EytanBernstein
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Posted - 12 Jul 2006 :  04:21:14  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

I'm back with one of my weird questions but I've really been thinking over ships and ports and the like lately, which is why I asked about that Spelljammer reference.

However, I'm wondering if Ed could supply any details on light houses? I know that's a bit of a vague question so let's see if I can narrow it down a bit. How do elven light houses, in places that elves have ports, Evermeet most likely, differ then human light houses? Are there any magical light houses, I figured that there might be. How do the different light houses on the ports of the Sword Coast differ from those that could be found on the ports of the Sea of Fallen Stars. Maybe give us some details on the different light houses found in a few of those ports? Any details about any light houses that can be found among Spelljamming ports that are in Wildspace and on the planets.....



Theres a lighthouse detailed in F&P called the Darkhouse of Saerloon



There should be something for you in a few weeks concening lighthouses. I don't know that it will answer all of those questions, but will shed a little more light (gosh that was bad :).

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Winterfox
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Posted - 13 Jul 2006 :  08:42:01  Show Profile  Visit Winterfox's Homepage Send Winterfox a Private Message
A general question, for Ed and anyone who wishes to answer: on the NWN board, a poster insisted that Faerun = roughly thirteenth-fourteenth century Earth. Rino and I said no, not really. Said poster replied with a quote--

quote:
From the 1987 Forgotten Realms: Cyclopedia of the Realms by Ed Greenwood, Jeff Grubb, and Karen S. Martin:

The Forgotten Realms are a world very similar to the Earth of the 13th and 14th centuries. Most of the area under discussion here has until recently been covered by wild forests and unsettled grasslands. Civilization is still a novelty in much of this world...

The people of these realms (including man, dwarf, elf, gnome, and halfling) are similar in mindset and advancement to the men of the 13th century. City-states are common, and nations on the increase as more of the wild lands are pushed back and gathered under a single king or government... Literacy and the quest for knowledge in[sic] on the rise, with the recent introduction of printed hand-bills in Waterdeep.



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Lore Seeker
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Posted - 13 Jul 2006 :  13:38:21  Show Profile  Visit Lore Seeker's Homepage Send Lore Seeker a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Winterfox

A general question, for Ed and anyone who wishes to answer: on the NWN board, a poster insisted that Faerun = roughly thirteenth-fourteenth century Earth. Rino and I said no, not really. Said poster replied with a quote--

quote:
From the 1987 Forgotten Realms: Cyclopedia of the Realms by Ed Greenwood, Jeff Grubb, and Karen S. Martin:

The Forgotten Realms are a world very similar to the Earth of the 13th and 14th centuries. Most of the area under discussion here has until recently been covered by wild forests and unsettled grasslands. Civilization is still a novelty in much of this world...

The people of these realms (including man, dwarf, elf, gnome, and halfling) are similar in mindset and advancement to the men of the 13th century. City-states are common, and nations on the increase as more of the wild lands are pushed back and gathered under a single king or government... Literacy and the quest for knowledge in[sic] on the rise, with the recent introduction of printed hand-bills in Waterdeep.



Quoi?



This is how Wikipedia describes Faerun........

Economically and technologically, Faerûn is comparable to Western Europe during the late middle ages. Gunpowder (here called smoke powder and different in its composition from historical gunpowder) is starting to make an appearance, but much of the armament is still dominated by swords, spears, bows, and the like. Most of the population consists of farmers, organized somewhat loosely in a semi-feudal system. There are also a number of notable cities, and trade between nations is common, comparable to the Renaissance era. Likewise, there are regions where more barbaric tribes and customs persist.

I think the level of advancement of civilization varies from region to region but overall, the above descritption sounds relatively accurate. But I would think this is best left answered by the creator himself, Mr. Greenwood.

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Winterfox
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Posted - 13 Jul 2006 :  14:08:06  Show Profile  Visit Winterfox's Homepage Send Winterfox a Private Message
Well, to be sure, the discussion in question was more about language. The poster said he feels Middle English is the closest to the language used in Faerun because he thinks the Realms is comparable to 13-14th century Earth; I argued that the level of technology overall brings it closer to the Renaissance, and therefore closer to Early Modern English.
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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 13 Jul 2006 :  14:44:22  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage  Click to see Neriandal Freit's MSN Messenger address Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message
I'll go ahead and say it for everyone, Realms/Faerun IS NOT like nor is meant to appear like 13-14 century EARTH or ladder periods there of it.

Just because they have castle, robes and wars does not make it like that.

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Lore Seeker
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Posted - 13 Jul 2006 :  14:47:26  Show Profile  Visit Lore Seeker's Homepage Send Lore Seeker a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Winterfox

Well, to be sure, the discussion in question was more about language. The poster said he feels Middle English is the closest to the language used in Faerun because he thinks the Realms is comparable to 13-14th century Earth; I argued that the level of technology overall brings it closer to the Renaissance, and therefore closer to Early Modern English.


Ah, but now we must consider the varying dialects of English spoken. I assume it would vary just as greatly as it does here in the U.S. and other English speaking countries. Also, level of education in the different regions of Faerun would have a major impact on spoken English as well. For instance, I would think the average person living in Silverymoon would be much more well spoken than someone living in some small farming village or even a place like Ten Towns.

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The Sage
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Posted - 13 Jul 2006 :  15:09:00  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
Ed has repeatedly said that Faerun is mostly not based on -- or rather similiar to -- Earth cultures, except for the parts that TSR added on. His most recent discussions on this are in the '06 replies.



-- Now, fellow scribes... let's try to keep the "Realms is comparable" discussions to another scroll and leave this one dedicated just to questions for Ed.

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Foxhelm
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Yes, we have to stick to the important questions.

Like What is Ed Greenwood's name? What is Ed Greenwood's Quest? What is Ed Greenwood's favourite colour?

Just kidding. My true question is I am looking for interesting Planetouched characters that one could add to your realms especially good Tieflings, Evil Aasimar, and oddball other planetouched. Do you have any that you can sahre with me and the others on the board.

Thanks.

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 13 Jul 2006 :  17:35:48  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Foxhelm

Yes, we have to stick to the important questions.

Like What is Ed Greenwood's name? What is Ed Greenwood's Quest? What is Ed Greenwood's favourite colour?

Just kidding. My true question is I am looking for interesting Planetouched characters that one could add to your realms especially good Tieflings, Evil Aasimar, and oddball other planetouched. Do you have any that you can sahre with me and the others on the board.

Thanks.



So, I actually wrote an article about this a while back, detailing some alternative planetouched races of the Realms. It's sitting on a desk at Paizo, hoping to be published.

--Eric

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 :  00:39:05  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello, all. Gray Richardson recently asked: “Hi Ed, I was wondering if you could tell me about taxes in Suzail. Is there a sales tax on the kinds of items that adventurers might want to buy? Things like food, ale, lodging, both basic goods and the more expensive kind: special inks, spellbooks, finely crafted armor and magic items. What about on services like stabling and hiring a messenger or guide? How are such taxes collected? What are the rates? And do they vary based on the type of good or service?
What if an adventurer were to sell his own items, would he owe the crown a portion? How would he go about paying that? And what might be the penalty if he failed to give the crown its due?
Also, what about property taxes? Are there taxes on the sale of land? Any periodic taxes on owning land? How often might they be collected? Quarterly? Annually? Monthly? Are you required to go and pay your taxes or does a tax collector come round and collect?
Thanks in advance for your kind answers!
What other surprising taxes, tarrifs or fees might an adventurer in Suzail stumble across?”
Ed replies:



I’ve already written a two-part Realmslore web column for Wizards about specific taxes in Suzail, and therefore can’t repeat here what I wrote for it, but in general there are no sales taxes on either goods or services. The usual exceptions are magic (items and scrolls, not castings), and when purchasing ships or land (upon which the levy is five to ten percent of the purchase price, if Crown officials deem that price “market fair”).
Vendors usually don’t pay taxes on selling items, but do pay a tax in the form of a rental for stall space at a trade fair (just like renting an exhibit hall booth at GenCon), even if they’re just selling without actually setting up a stall.
There are also annual “head taxes” paid only by land or building owners or the heads of households, that Crown tax collectors “come around” to collect.
To this can be added also gate-entry fees for wagons or coaches, and riding beasts (so a mounted man pays, even if he gets off and leads his horse), but not lone travelers afoot. Ships are charged berthing fees. Crown employees, conveyances, and vessels are all exempt.
(There are few surprises for an adventurer in Suzail, because the Crown of Cormyr doesn’t have to be greedy for funds; it has the Crystal Grot and many sources of fee-based income.)
I’m afraid the amounts for most of these are part of my column, so you’ll have to wait for it.
Taxes vary widely in the Realms, but generally, in the Heartlands, in all communities depending (or profiting mainly) upon mercantile trade, taxes are light. In “unorganized” areas, such as wilderlands, and nominally ruled but unpatrolled lands, where the only settlements are individual steadings, hermitages, and monasteries, taxes are either non-existent or take the form of “provide food and shelter to the ruler or his representatives when they happen by, and request it.” Forceful rulers may extend this to “protect our stuff and give us mounts or fresh draft animals and mounts,” too, whereas fairer ones will pay for the beasts they take.



So saith Ed, who just once wants to do lounge naked on a bed of shiny new gold coins (or so he tells me).
love to all,
THO
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RevJest
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 :  01:44:11  Show Profile  Visit RevJest's Homepage Send RevJest a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

(There are few surprises for an adventurer in Suzail, because the Crown of Cormyr doesn’t have to be greedy for funds; it has the Crystal Grot and many sources of fee-based income.)



I've seen you mention this magical item before, Master Greenwood. Is there any source that details it?

- RJ

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George Krashos
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It's not a magical item, it's a location. The Crystal Grot is a secret place full of sapphires. The Obarskyrs carefully mine and sell (in measured quantities over various markets, Faerûn-wide) these sapphires to keep themselves and the realm wealthy enough that they can tax lightly.

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chance87
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 :  02:50:31  Show Profile Send chance87 a Private Message
And who's arm do we need to twist to see that it does?


quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

So, I actually wrote an article about this a while back, detailing some alternative planetouched races of the Realms. It's sitting on a desk at Paizo, hoping to be published.

--Eric

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 :  03:09:23  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by chance87

And who's arm do we need to twist to see that it does?


quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

So, I actually wrote an article about this a while back, detailing some alternative planetouched races of the Realms. It's sitting on a desk at Paizo, hoping to be published.

--Eric





Make a request on the Paizo site in the Article Requests section for an article about planetouched of the Realms. Don't mention I sent you. ;-)

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 :  03:55:19  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

quote:
Originally posted by chance87

And who's arm do we need to twist to see that it does?


quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

So, I actually wrote an article about this a while back, detailing some alternative planetouched races of the Realms. It's sitting on a desk at Paizo, hoping to be published.

--Eric





Make a request on the Paizo site in the Article Requests section for an article about planetouched of the Realms. Don't mention I sent you. ;-)

--Eric





I started a thread to help channel the scribes from the keep over to Paizo's boards for your Eric . . . here's hoping we get to see it soon . . . here is the link to the thread that I started.

http://www.candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7299

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 :  04:46:56  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Ed replies:

I’ve already written a two-part Realmslore web column for Wizards about specific taxes in Suzail, and therefore can’t repeat here what I wrote for it, but in general there are no sales taxes on either goods or services.


Unless he's referring to new lore, those articles can be found here: Parts One and Two of The Rise and Fall of the Window Tax.

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

So saith Ed, who just once wants to do lounge naked on a bed of shiny new gold coins (or so he tells me).
love to all,
THO




No offense to Ed, but I'd far rather see our lovely Lady Hooded One doing that.

(Ed can have the money afterward, so he could support himself while pumping out more Realmslore. )


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The Hooded One
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Hello again, all.
The Crystal Grot is covered in VOLO'S GUIDE TO CORMYR, and regarding the taxes, Ed does mean new lore (web columns you haven't seen yet).
love to all,
THO
P.S. I'd say I'm most like Storm, of the Seven. Not much of a surprise there, eh?
P.P.S. Wooly, here I am, lounging. (I'll describe myself in more detail privately, soon. Promise.) Ed's the buried-in-coins bearded lump yonder, but don't worry: he'll just watch us quietly. I hope.

Edited by - The Hooded One on 14 Jul 2006 04:59:32
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

P.S. I'd say I'm most like Storm, of the Seven.



Oooh, me too!

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

P.P.S. Wooly, here I am, lounging. (I'll describe myself in more detail privately, soon. Promise.)
Hey... no fair! That's cheating.

Are you any good at ASCII Art THO? I foresee some interesting possibilities.

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Jorkens
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My dear lady Hooded One, I have a rather horrible question for Ed that I will have full understanding of if he declines to answer out of overwork and time.

I was thinking about the geology of the Faerunian mountains and I wondered, what is the structure of the various mountain ranges when it comes to rock types?

As I said, horrible question.

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EytanBernstein
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I have question for Ed (somewhat inspired by Jorkens' question). What parts of the world are known to have many earthquakes and volcanos? Does Faerun have tectonic plates that cause seismic activity? If so, where are they located?

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The Sage
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Originally posted by EytanBernstein

I have question for Ed (somewhat inspired by Jorkens' question). What parts of the world are known to have many earthquakes and volcanos? Does Faerun have tectonic plates that cause seismic activity? If so, where are they located?

As I recall, Kuje, Wooly and I have a fairly similar series of questions pending for Ed already -- from mid-2005.

We really weren't asking about specific locations however, more about the activity behind such occurences in the Realms.

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For the first time in a while, we have a new chapter for "Oroon Rising."

Oroon Rising - Chap. 16

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by EytanBernstein

I have question for Ed (somewhat inspired by Jorkens' question). What parts of the world are known to have many earthquakes and volcanos? Does Faerun have tectonic plates that cause seismic activity? If so, where are they located?

As I recall, Kuje, Wooly and I have a fairly similar series of questions pending for Ed already -- from mid-2005.

We really weren't asking about specific locations however, more about the activity behind such occurences in the Realms.




Eytan can also read the December 14th, 2004 reply. There has been volcano's mentioned in the lore and on the old maps.

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