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froglegg
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 :  02:37:48  Show Profile Send froglegg a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Qilue! She dances naked! A lot! All kidden aside she has to be on top of her game at all times because of where she is at.

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froglegg
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quote:
Originally posted by Talwyn

I voted for Qilue and agree with Zireal that her death felt like it had no purpose but a simple way to end any chance of Eilistraee's cult ever continuing.

Qilue was an intriguing character who popped up in what I thought the best Drow series by Elaine Cunningham.

Alas, it's all water under the trollbridge now and ranting about it won't bring her or Eilistraee back.


I miss the Dark Dancer and her followers
Dont even get me started about what they did to her and how it went down! 4th edition my butt!

John


Mod Edit: Corrected the quoted portion of the previous reply.

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Let's not turn this into another debate on editions, please.

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froglegg
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 :  03:09:21  Show Profile Send froglegg a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Let's not turn this into another debate on editions, please.


Yes oh Wooly one I will not go on a flame rant on this topic.

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Dennis
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Knight of the Gate
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I can'teven vote: I love Laeral for all that she's gone through and found, and lost; but if I were to run into one of them in a dark alley for nefarious purposes, I'd SO want it to be Dove. Or Storm. Or Both. ;)

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I like Laeral in the Return of the Archwizards. I think she and Khelben are the only Chosen that Troy managed to portray well in that series...

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Talwyn
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Posted - 19 Jun 2010 :  09:18:25  Show Profile  Visit Talwyn's Homepage Send Talwyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by froglegg

quote:
Originally posted by Talwyn

I voted for Qilue and agree with Zireal that her death felt like it had no purpose but a simple way to end any chance of Eilistraee's cult ever continuing.

Qilue was an intriguing character who popped up in what I thought the best Drow series by Elaine Cunningham.

Alas, it's all water under the trollbridge now and ranting about it won't bring her or Eilistraee back.

I miss the Dark Dancer and her followers
Dont even get me started about what they did to her and how it went down! 4th edition my butt!

John







Umm...excuse me but could the above post please be amended as it looks like I am being quoted out of context here.

The red bolded text, well those are not my words nor sentiments.

Thanks


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'Tis done, Talwyn.

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mensch
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I must say I have an irrational dislike for Storm Silverhand after reading the Avatar trilogy. The way she treated Midnight and that poor Cyric after accusing them of Elminster's death just isn't fair. I'm absolutely sure that without the haughty accusations of Storm Cyric would still be a happy Chaotic Neutral rogue instead of a Chaotic Evil Supergod with a tendency to slit one's Achilles' heel

I voted for Laeral Silverhand, partly because she's the founder of the Moonstars.

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Iluvrien
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Posted - 27 Jun 2010 :  13:28:08  Show Profile  Visit Iluvrien's Homepage Send Iluvrien a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Storm, hands down, full stop, with knobs on.

I have a great affection for many of the Seven Sisters, I have a little more difficulty dealing with Alassra and Qilue than the others, but Storm has always been my favourite.

That preference almost did not survive the Avatar books, however I then went on to read several others where she featured prominently... and they were written by Ed.

As for why, well, I think that out of them all, as interesting as meeting them would be (Laeral and Alustriel, I am looking at you two) the one of Seven (still alive) who I would find the most contentment with either at home, or around the wilds, or even have laughing at me while I attempt to chop wood in the nude, would be Storm.
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Iluvrien

I have a great affection for many of the Seven Sisters, I have a little more difficulty dealing with Alassra and Qilue than the others, but Storm has always been my favourite.
I'm curious as to why you feel this way about both Alassra and Qilue?

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
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I voted for Laeral Silverhand, partly because she's the founder of the Moonstars.



Actually, that was her hubby, Khelben (my personal fave among the Chosen).

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Iluvrien
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Posted - 27 Jun 2010 :  15:04:28  Show Profile  Visit Iluvrien's Homepage Send Iluvrien a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

I'm curious as to why you feel this way about both Alassra and Qilue?



...and here I was trying to be a good little newbie and keep my head down while I continue to try and get my head around the wonderful, and occasionally daunting, morass of scrolls at CK...

The answer to you question, Sage, is both a little complex and a little vague, so I beg your indulgence on both counts.

The basic idea is that thanks to the way my, rather vivid, imagination works I am unable to consider characters as purely literary constructions. This means that if they work at all for me, the work as People rather than Things. It is also why I am unable to read books by Stephen Donaldson anymore (the things he does to his characters make me physically unwell).

In a way, the response to Alassra and Qilue is similar to the feelings that Laeral and Alustriel evoke. In both of these cases, while both of these Great Ladies seem to be capable of great personal amusement, mischeviousness, care and tenderness, in any audience with them I can only conclude that I would spend too much of the time enfolded in a mixture of awe and wonder, I have always perceived an almost Regal aspect to them, to reach a degree of comfort.

This cerebro-emotional barrier has, while not decreasing my regard for them, prevented me from warming to them as favourites.

It is much the same with Alassra and Qilue, if for different reasons:

Alassra's very wildness is the divisive factor here. El may be able to stand against her tumult (and more respect to him for managing it), but being all too aware of my own paltry weakness I could not even force the suspension of my own disbelief for long enough to consider doing more than peeking into the throne-room of Aglarond from behind a THICK wall.

My difficulty with Qilue is similar, in that it is a suspension of disbelief problem. For all that I have enjoyed her as a character and her actions in service to both the Dark Maiden and the Lady of Mysteries, I find that this dual-devotion in addition to her Drow nature just left too few points of commonality for me to draw her off the page in a way that would allow me to relate to her with more fondness than awe, curiosity or shock.

I hope that makes more sense of it, and wasn't too long and waffly.
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Dennis
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Strange, I always find Alassra believable. But then, believability of characters is scarcely objective,and rather subjective.

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Iluvrien
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Posted - 28 Jun 2010 :  01:12:35  Show Profile  Visit Iluvrien's Homepage Send Iluvrien a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It isn't Alassra I find unbelievable... it is my capacity to remain anywhere near her that I doubt .
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mensch
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Posted - 28 Jun 2010 :  15:16:47  Show Profile  Visit mensch's Homepage Send mensch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by mensch


I voted for Laeral Silverhand, partly because she's the founder of the Moonstars.



Actually, that was her hubby, Khelben (my personal fave among the Chosen).

Ah yes, you're right.

I wonder, is the schism between Khelben and the Harpers detailed in a novel somewhere? Both the Forgotten Realms Wiki and Wikipedia state that Laeral leads the Moonstars, together with Khelben. So while technically not a founding member, she's cool enough. ;) Being the consort to Mr. "Blackstaff" Arunsun also earns her a lot of brownie points.

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Kyrene
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I voted "None" *shrugs* Don't know any of them nearly well enough to even begin to pick a favourite.

Although, the [very sexy] scene between the Simbul and El, about three-quarters into Spellfire where she admits to being lonely, might have given her my vote simply because I like troubled-but-extremely-dangerous-lasses.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by mensch


I voted for Laeral Silverhand, partly because she's the founder of the Moonstars.



Actually, that was her hubby, Khelben (my personal fave among the Chosen).

Ah yes, you're right.

I wonder, is the schism between Khelben and the Harpers detailed in a novel somewhere? Both the Forgotten Realms Wiki and Wikipedia state that Laeral leads the Moonstars, together with Khelben. So while technically not a founding member, she's cool enough. ;) Being the consort to Mr. "Blackstaff" Arunsun also earns her a lot of brownie points.



It was detailed in the last (and one of the greatest) sourcebooks of the 2E era, Cloak & Dagger. It was pretty much ignored after that.

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The Sage
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by mensch

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by mensch


I voted for Laeral Silverhand, partly because she's the founder of the Moonstars.



Actually, that was her hubby, Khelben (my personal fave among the Chosen).

Ah yes, you're right.

I wonder, is the schism between Khelben and the Harpers detailed in a novel somewhere? Both the Forgotten Realms Wiki and Wikipedia state that Laeral leads the Moonstars, together with Khelben. So while technically not a founding member, she's cool enough. ;) Being the consort to Mr. "Blackstaff" Arunsun also earns her a lot of brownie points.



It was detailed in the last (and one of the greatest) sourcebooks of the 2E era, Cloak & Dagger. It was pretty much ignored after that.

There's a few brief bits in Steven Schend's Blackstaff as well.

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Dennis
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YES. And 'tis one of the many reasons I found myself easily immersed in Steven's "Blackstaff."


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Dennis
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quote:
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I must say I have an irrational dislike for Storm Silverhand after reading the Avatar trilogy. The way she treated Midnight and that poor Cyric after accusing them of Elminster's death just isn't fair. I'm absolutely sure that without the haughty accusations of Storm Cyric would still be a happy Chaotic Neutral rogue instead of a Chaotic Evil Supergod with a tendency to slit one's Achilles' heel

I voted for Laeral Silverhand, partly because she's the founder of the Moonstars.



Though Storm is not my favorite of the Seven, I find her quite interesting and fun. And I agree with you that the way she was portrayed in A.T. was rather dislikable. But if you read Silverfall, RotA, Shandril's S, and Shadows of the Av, I think you'll find her 'cool' enough...Oh, well, maybe not much in RotA.



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Dennis
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It isn't Alassra I find unbelievable... it is my capacity to remain anywhere near her that I doubt .



If you ask me, I scarcely see the difference. A cause-and-effect factor. In how I see it, your doubt springs from you finding her a bit unbelievable. (Too Regal to be comfortable with?)

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I voted for The Simbul - I simply love her chaotic wild nature. As King Azoun IV once called her:"A good friend, but a deadly enemy". Besides that, it was her who went for Elminster when he got banished to some unfriendly plane, don't remember which.

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If you ask me, I scarcely see the difference. A cause-and-effect factor. In how I see it, your doubt springs from you finding her a bit unbelievable. (Too Regal to be comfortable with?)



Not Regal. Dangerous. It is Laeral and Alustriel that I consider to have a Regal, if mischevious, aspect to their natures. That is, perhaps, something I should have been clearer about; which two of the four that I mentioned I was referring to regalness in relation to.

With Alassra and her purr-at or pulverise nature, I couldn7t imagine myself getting close to her as a person before being torn apart by some manner of spellfury. Hers, or her enemy's.

I don't consider her unbelievable, just someone I would only be able to associate with while wearing... a tank.
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