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yargarth
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Posted - 02 Jan 2007 :  04:41:31  Show Profile  Visit yargarth's Homepage Send yargarth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
makes sense I have never played the old school stuff

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Enialus Meliamne
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Posted - 02 Jan 2007 :  12:00:57  Show Profile  Visit Enialus Meliamne's Homepage  Send Enialus Meliamne a Yahoo! Message Send Enialus Meliamne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm partial to Kymil myself...Im reading Evermeet once again, and working my way through from there to The Last Mythal for Realms changing events (I have either most of them all ready, of have ordered them recently on Amazon).

For likeability...Elaith. Hands down.

For hoping he'll come back from the darkside, Artemis, also hands down.

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Tyr
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Posted - 02 Jan 2007 :  15:59:42  Show Profile  Visit Tyr's Homepage Send Tyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd go for Telemont at the moment, as given time he'll make you into an evil person without realizing it.

Although Fzoul is pretty cool as a bad guy.

I agree that Karsus isn't a villain, he was trying to stop his people being killed by the Phaerimm and it went horribly wrong. Things would of been different if Mystyl had just went 'oh, do you need help with something?'.

I agree Dag Zoreth could have been a real contender but for the 'meh' factor of Thornhold's ending, if not all of it after the toy part.

Edited by - Tyr on 02 Jan 2007 16:00:36
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 02 Jan 2007 :  17:32:01  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tyr

I agree that Karsus isn't a villain, he was trying to stop his people being killed by the Phaerimm and it went horribly wrong. Things would of been different if Mystyl had just went 'oh, do you need help with something?'.


Indeed. I know that when someone is trying to end my existence because of their own foolishness and arrogance, I always offer them any assistance they may need.

Sorry, but direct intervention like you suggest isn't really a deific thing, and Mystryl was doing the best she could do, given a seriously bad situation.

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Iliphar1
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Posted - 02 Jan 2007 :  23:02:35  Show Profile  Visit Iliphar1's Homepage Send Iliphar1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think the most interesting Villain I read about was Artemis Enteri & The Soujourner. I just loved every single aspect of the Paul Kemp's Sojourner, especially, that he undertook all these troubles just for such a mundane (and at the same time so human) reason.

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BeastlyIrishman
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Posted - 10 Jan 2007 :  07:23:13  Show Profile  Visit BeastlyIrishman's Homepage  Click to see BeastlyIrishman's MSN Messenger address Send BeastlyIrishman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I had to go with Artemis and Jarlaxle. Entreri is a cold and ruthless killer who will pull out any dirty tricky to accomplish his task, and Jarlaxle is a cunning little Drow who has demonstrated his forte' for treachery and deceit.(I wonder if the fact that I'm a huge Entreri-fan somehow influenced my vote?)
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yargarth
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Posted - 12 Jan 2007 :  03:40:25  Show Profile  Visit yargarth's Homepage Send yargarth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BeastlyIrishman

I had to go with Artemis and Jarlaxle. Entreri is a cold and ruthless killer who will pull out any dirty tricky to accomplish his task, and Jarlaxle is a cunning little Drow who has demonstrated his forte' for treachery and deceit.(I wonder if the fact that I'm a huge Entreri-fan somehow influenced my vote?)

but their roles may be changeing

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Charles Phipps
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Posted - 12 Jan 2007 :  03:47:30  Show Profile  Visit Charles Phipps's Homepage Send Charles Phipps a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I hope not.

Artemis should stay the cold blooded bastard that he is.

Even if I wouldn't mind him gaining a few more dimensions to being a ruthless killer.

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boddynock
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Posted - 13 Jan 2007 :  15:17:17  Show Profile  Visit boddynock's Homepage  Click to see boddynock's MSN Messenger address Send boddynock a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cyric, a mortal who became a god of strife and murder :)
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GRYPHON
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Posted - 02 Dec 2007 :  19:18:57  Show Profile  Visit GRYPHON's Homepage Send GRYPHON a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sarya and Malkizid, followed by Artemis and Jarlaxle...

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hooper101
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Posted - 10 Dec 2007 :  22:00:45  Show Profile  Visit hooper101's Homepage Send hooper101 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How about Ghost from Night Masks?

Die, die, die ,die, die, why won't you just die you silly dragon!
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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 10 Dec 2007 :  23:22:33  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My vote goes to the Elven High Mages who destroyed the surface of Toril to make Evermeet, and those who destroyed Jhaamdath. Brutal killers!



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Brynweir
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Posted - 10 Dec 2007 :  23:27:29  Show Profile  Send Brynweir an AOL message Send Brynweir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I chose Cyric. While I love Entreri and Jarlaxle, I find that they both have some redeeming quality. I couldn't think of any for Cyric.

Anyone who likes to read something that's really dark and gritty and completely awesome ought to read The Night Angel Trilogy by Brent Weeks. You can check out a little taste at www.BrentWeeks.com I should probably warn you, though, that it is definitely not PG-13 :-D

He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness.

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BARDOBARBAROS
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Posted - 26 Dec 2007 :  18:19:26  Show Profile  Visit BARDOBARBAROS's Homepage Send BARDOBARBAROS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Szass Tam

BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL.
HE DECAPITATES!!!


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Fillow
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Posted - 26 Dec 2007 :  19:40:03  Show Profile  Visit Fillow's Homepage  Send Fillow a Yahoo! Message Send Fillow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sure that Artemis and Elaith be really villains ones ?
They've been seen doing something good trough some novels !

EDIT : oops, I forgot... I said Szass Tam

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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 26 Dec 2007 :  20:04:06  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't know about you guys, but I loved reading about Fzoul and Xvim during their short reign together, between the times when Bane went away and when he was ressurected.

So I'd have to go with Fzoul during that period as my most favorite villian. As far as most powerful? Don't know actually. There's been dozens of significant villians in Faerun, each is unique and had their impact on the Realms, and probably alot that I don't know about at all.

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood

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Zarithar
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Posted - 04 Jan 2008 :  16:08:11  Show Profile  Visit Zarithar's Homepage Send Zarithar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jaraxle is not exactly a "villain" and Artemis Entreri definately deserves his own space rather than to be lumped in with Jaraxle. It's only relatively recently that the two became associates. That being said, I voted for Entreri!
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Slaygrim
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Posted - 24 Jan 2008 :  17:40:35  Show Profile  Visit Slaygrim's Homepage Send Slaygrim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Absolutely LOVED Artemis Entreri in Streams of Silver and The Halflings Gem. Very cool villain.


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Neo2151
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Posted - 25 Jan 2008 :  07:51:32  Show Profile  Send Neo2151 an AOL message Send Neo2151 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For impact on the realms? Telemont by far. (Tele's actually evil, Karsus was a combination of crazy and trying to do what was best for his realm).

For most cunning? Manshoon. This guy is up to so much trouble it makes my head spin. And it makes me cry to think that Ed hasn't written it because his publishers won't let him play with the Zhentarim like he wants to :( It also makes me sad that most of the time you see him pop up in the novels, he's dealing with someone he can't quite handle. Elminster and Shandril are perfect examples here. His obvious better, and an angry-as-hell spellfire weilder? Ya, c'mon, that just makes him look too underwhelming.

For my favorite, we have to add Larloch to the list. One of the most powerful casters still around. A bit crazy but when you live that long without the divine shielding your mind, it happens. And I think his plans for gaining control over Toril's portals is ingenious! I love the guy and wish there was more out there about him.

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ranger_of_the_unicorn_run
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Posted - 07 Dec 2008 :  19:59:25  Show Profile Send ranger_of_the_unicorn_run a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There isn't enough out there written about him (or maybe I just haven't found it), but I think Fzoul is one of the most chilling villains in the realms. He is power-hungry and sadistic and I think his character is a lot deeper than that shown in the Avatar trilogy.
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Tabardad
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Posted - 07 Dec 2008 :  21:35:46  Show Profile  Visit Tabardad's Homepage Send Tabardad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Anyone have any thoughts on the deceased Matron Baenre? :)

She was pretty depraved, and no one has mentioned her yet. lol

Whoa!
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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 07 Dec 2008 :  21:50:14  Show Profile  Visit Dalor Darden's Homepage Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nobody thought the Great Khan was evil?

I know they washed him out entirely too easily in the novels; but this guy thought nothing of torching entire cities...

Pretty powerful and evil in my book.

If I had to pick the current most evil baddie in FR though:

Emporer Shoon

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Arion Elenim
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Posted - 08 Dec 2008 :  01:52:06  Show Profile  Visit Arion Elenim's Homepage  Click to see Arion Elenim's MSN Messenger address Send Arion Elenim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
SOJOURN SPOILER!!!!









I really liked the villain from Sojourn - Roddy McGristle. I was hoping he would return later on...guess there's not much chance of there NOW, is there? :(

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Thalos_Milathriel
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Posted - 08 Dec 2008 :  04:44:36  Show Profile  Visit Thalos_Milathriel's Homepage  Click to see Thalos_Milathriel's MSN Messenger address Send Thalos_Milathriel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Vhostym "The Sojourner" from the Erevis Cale books would have to be near the top for me. Technically I think he's neutral, but any neutrality that would allow one to rationalize destroying all of Toril is evil in my book. And he came very close to suceeding, which would have been only a slightly worse fate for Faerûn than the recent 4E revisions in my opinion. At least it would have gone out in a blaze of glory.
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Arion Elenim
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Posted - 08 Dec 2008 :  06:56:17  Show Profile  Visit Arion Elenim's Homepage  Click to see Arion Elenim's MSN Messenger address Send Arion Elenim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah Vhostym was pretty incredible. In particular I loved the moment where his number of non-verbal spells ran out and suddenly...he was beatable.

Also, I think he was definitely the most callous villain the Realms ever produced. What a fantastically selfish motivation!

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