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Dargoth
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Posted - 19 Apr 2005 :  06:03:59  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ok thanks

By the way someone (I think i was Sage) said that the Abbey of the Sword Portal to Sigil is now inactive due to something that happaned in Sigil

What and who blocked the portal at Sigil end?

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Yes, that was me. It was from something I read about from the 3e "official" conversion for the PS setting.

Let me track down the source again, and I'll fill you in on the specific details.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Yes, that was me. It was from something I read about from the 3e "official" conversion for the PS setting.

Let me track down the source again, and I'll fill you in on the specific details.




*Tucks that little titbit away*

Much appreciated (if you find anymore feel free to post)

Are there any other known FR to Sigil portals and what is their last known status?

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I'll keep an eye out for any more FR/Sigil portals that are mentioned.

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Posted - 20 Apr 2005 :  01:56:41  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ok thanks

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Bink!

Okay, regarding the portal at the Abbey of the Sword... Details from PW.com seem to indicate that nothing actually happened to prevent access from Faerun. Rather, knowledge about the portal has basically faded from the minds of many (on the Sigil side) except for those who reside near the Abbey portal's exit. They are the only mortals in Sigil who know well of the details surrouding the portal and where it comes from.

I believe this to be one designer's interpretation to keep Sigil a PS-oriented campaign instead of the true multiversal nature it had during 2e. Apparently it is considered 'canon' only to the extent of an unofficial 3e PS conversion. Until it is actually mentioned in printed details in an 'official' FR sourcebook, and depending on which setting your primarily campaigning in, the portal is still active.

Since I still run my PS campaigns with true multiversal exposure, the portal end from the Abbey of the Sword in MY Sigil, still connects with Faerun.

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Posted - 20 Apr 2005 :  08:12:40  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmmm ok

*reverts back to plan A*

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Jindael
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According to Faiths and Pantheons, there is more than one portal underneath the Abby of the Sword. The text refers to them as "numerous". They go on to talk about how drow popped through an "unwatched" portal.

If there are enough portals down there for an abbey that boasts more than 100 people (mentioned in the text) can't watch them all, we can assume were dealing with quite a few of them. More than just 1 to Sigil.

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No, there is only ONE portal from the Abbey to Sigil. Although, should you need to find another way, there is always the possibility of finding an previously unknown portal from the Abbey that leads directly to the entrance of one of the many barrack posts for Harmonium patrols in the City of Doors.

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khorne
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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 :  20:59:31  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage Send khorne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

No, there is only ONE portal from the Abbey to Sigil. Although, should you need to find another way, there is always the possibility of finding an previously unknown portal from the Abbey that leads directly to the entrance of one of the many barrack posts for Harmonium patrols in the City of Doors.


Weren`t the harmonium and the other factions kicked out of Sigil after the faction war?

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Originally posted by khorneWeren`t the harmonium and the other factions kicked out of Sigil after the faction war?



Only some of them. Some disbanded, some merged together, some went to other planes, and some just are still there but they are not "factions" per say. :)

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quote:
Originally posted by kuje31

quote:
Originally posted by khorne

Weren`t the harmonium and the other factions kicked out of Sigil after the faction war?

Only some of them. Some disbanded, some merged together, some went to other planes, and some just are still there but they are not "factions" per say. :)

Kuje is correct.

Of course, just agreeing that they are no longer a FACTION in the traditional sense was also enough for some.

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khorne
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Yes, some of them were disbanded, some were destroyed, and some simply relocated elsewhere(fated to ysgard, Harmonium to arcadia etc) and according to what I have read the lady of pain gave them all "the finger"=kicked them out of sigil.

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aren't there any permanent portals into Ravenloft?

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Gray Richardson
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As I mentioned on page 1, there is a portal to Ravenloft under the Greycloak hills just north of Evereska.
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Gray Richardson
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LEoF mentions that the Hosttower Arcane in Luskan has portals to many planes, among them a portal to a demiplane containing a shadow version of the Hosttower.

By the way, this is not official, but I ran a campaign once where the players had to recover a certain kidnapped queen being held by Arklem Greeth in Ravenloft, and so I put a portal to Ravenloft in the Hosttower Arcane.
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quote:
Originally posted by Iliphar1

aren't there any permanent portals into Ravenloft?

Just remember, as I stated earlier, unless you specifically wish it so, there is no longer a portal from the Realms into Ravenloft 3e. That being said, you can still have the portal exist if you so want -- it is just that there is no longer any context for it in the 3e RL material.

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By the way, this is not official, but I ran a campaign once where the players had to recover a certain kidnapped queen being held by Arklem Greeth in Ravenloft, and so I put a portal to Ravenloft in the Hosttower Arcane.
Where in Ravenloft did it open?

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Gray Richardson
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Posted - 30 May 2005 :  04:47:57  Show Profile  Visit Gray Richardson's Homepage Send Gray Richardson a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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warlockco
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Posted - 30 May 2005 :  08:29:55  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Iliphar1

aren't there any permanent portals into Ravenloft?

Just remember, as I stated earlier, unless you specifically wish it so, there is no longer a portal from the Realms into Ravenloft 3e. That being said, you can still have the portal exist if you so want -- it is just that there is no longer any context for it in the 3e RL material.




Hmm, that reminds me, has anyone actually picked up any of the 3E Ravenloft material?
Been tempted to get some, but the last time I had looked at Ravenloft, it seemed to be heading in a more Victorian Era setting, than the "traditional" fantasy setting.
Reason being is thinking of reviving the old original Ravenloft module in one of my Realms campaigns.

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The Sage
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Posted - 30 May 2005 :  08:42:24  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, if you notice from most of the RL/FR discussions here at Candlekeep, you'll know that I've certainly picked up most of the 3e material. Many of the tomes aren't as impressive as the 2e source material for the setting, but it is still RL nonetheless.

However, this really isn't the place for such a non-Realms discussion. To appease the Big Al, I suggest you move over to the Worlds of D&D forums, specifically the RL forums.

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Thanks Sage.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Iliphar1

aren't there any permanent portals into Ravenloft?

Just remember, as I stated earlier, unless you specifically wish it so, there is no longer a portal from the Realms into Ravenloft 3e. That being said, you can still have the portal exist if you so want -- it is just that there is no longer any context for it in the 3e RL material.




Hmm, that reminds me, has anyone actually picked up any of the 3E Ravenloft material?
Been tempted to get some, but the last time I had looked at Ravenloft, it seemed to be heading in a more Victorian Era setting, than the "traditional" fantasy setting.
Reason being is thinking of reviving the old original Ravenloft module in one of my Realms campaigns.



I've got the first of the 3E Ravenloft books. It's not bad, but it's not as good as the 2E stuff was.

As for the original I6 module, though, I can't see any reason not to drop it somewhere in the Realms. It wasn't originally set in the Ravenloft setting, the setting was built around the module.

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Saryason
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Just noticed something interesting on the the first page.

With regards to the 'celestial staircase', does it connect to more than one point in Toril? and is it still viable in 3e?

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quote:
Originally posted by Saryason

Just noticed something interesting on the the first page.

With regards to the 'celestial staircase', does it connect to more than one point in Toril? and is it still viable in 3e?



Yes and yes, since it's mentioned in the Player's Guide.

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quote:
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Just noticed something interesting on the the first page.

With regards to the 'celestial staircase', does it connect to more than one point in Toril? and is it still viable in 3e?





In the Avatar trilogy, we saw at least 2 or 3 connections to Toril. One in Shadowdale, one in Waterdeep, and I think Mystra 1 used one to try to go home, before being slain by Helm.

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The Celestial Staircase is said to have connections to every city in every plane across the multiverse. Although we don't know where all those openings are in the realms, it is possible that you can access the Staircase in any city in the Realms.

Since most people don't know where the openings are, they often travel to the Selűne's Gates of the Moon where a terminus is know to exist in order to access it.
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quote:
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...and I think Mystra 1 used one to try to go home, before being slain by Helm.
It was indeed, with its usual appearance and description.

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quote:
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Also the stars of Realmspace are portals to the Plane of Radiance, but not sure how this would be since Radiance has been written out in 3/3.5



There was a 3/3.5 writeup for the Plane of Radiance in one of the Dragon Magazines. I don't remember which one, my issue is at home and I am at work.

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quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair
There was a 3/3.5 writeup for the Plane of Radiance in one of the Dragon Magazines. I don't remember which one, my issue is at home and I am at work.



That was a different Plane of Radiance, since it's a transit plane instead of a elemental plane. There's other parts of the Dragon one that is different then the elemental one. :) Same name, different plane basically.

I call that plane the Rainbow Bright plane because of the bridge that goes through that plane. :)

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