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ode904
Learned Scribe
Finland
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 Posted - 19 Jul 2005 : 19:07:13
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| Artemis. He has his dagger and Kharon's Claw. To win Artemis must be master, like Drizzt, and it was hard one battle to him too. I think Artemis would win the duel |
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Faramicos
Senior Scribe
Denmark
468 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2005 : 11:27:15
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| Artemis would win without doubt. He masters so many skills with his blade and are in general a master swordsman. Artemis would whoop him into oblivion. |
"When dragons make war, worlds can only tremble in the shadow of angry wings" |
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Ethriel
Learned Scribe
USA
272 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2005 : 15:57:50
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| Let's never mind Cale's a Shade and a Chosen and a master warrior with a magic sword of his own. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2005 : 01:58:46
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| Cale has divine spells to back up his swordsmanship. This is one advantage that I don't think Artemis can overcome. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6646 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2005 : 02:23:23
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Cale's bald and therefore has more testosterone. That'll definitely give him the edge. 
-- George Krashos
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"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2005 : 03:48:07
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Cale's bald and therefore has more testosterone. That'll definitely give him the edge.
-- George Krashos
Seriously, folks, that's as good an answer as any on this thread. Almost all X vs. Y debates generally come down to opinion, especially where popular characters are concerned. Most people will decide that the character they prefer is the one that would win, and won't budge from that standpoint. That's a lot of the reason I don't participate in many threads like this: it's not as much a debate (about something that will never happen, mind you!) as it is a popularity contest. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2005 : 04:36:49
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Cale's bald and therefore has more testosterone. That'll definitely give him the edge.
-- George Krashos
Haha... are you sure he's not just losing hair from all the stress of handling the Urskeven family? |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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RRELIN
Acolyte
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Posted - 15 Mar 2009 : 15:09:52
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| I would bet on Artemis. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 15 Mar 2009 : 15:58:45
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Thread necromancy! 
I still don't have any real opinion on who would win... But we know who the most popular is, and that's what these polls always come down to. |
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
933 Posts |
Posted - 15 Mar 2009 : 17:12:31
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| Yeah, well, I suppose it'd all come down to WHICH Erevis we're talking about. Night Mask Erevis, Artemis no contest. Chosen of Mask, I'm going with Erevis. End of Shadowrealm Erevis? Cale all the way. |
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Thielan
Acolyte
Australia
25 Posts |
Posted - 15 Mar 2009 : 22:17:33
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| I'd have to be going for Cale here, shadowstepping followed by a sword through the back is quite effective. I'd have one question though, does Cale's shade magic resistance help prevent any of the effects from a touch from Charon's Claw or the vampiric dagger? |
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
933 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 00:53:02
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| We still don't know the full effects of Entreri's pseudo Shade-ism do we? |
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Faraer
Great Reader
3308 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 02:40:02
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| What's with this referring to characters by their family names? |
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
933 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 03:03:50
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| I think it's more likely we're just referring to the names those characters most often use (or are called) in the novels, Faraer. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 05:01:57
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In which case, what's up with it there? Calling people by surnames (whether 'naked' surnames or with titles) gives a sense of cool professional distance that may be appropriate to these characters. But it's not normal in the Realms.
Just observing and meandering here. |
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 05:07:08
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I think you just answered your own question. Both Riven and Cale go by their last names except with those people closest to them. And I can't recall that anyone calls Entreri by his first name.
Professionals indeed. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 05:31:55
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| Although I never thought much about it, I suppose the enthusiasm for this emotionally distanced 'cool' is mainly what I find distasteful about some of the fandom for these characters. |
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
933 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 06:37:14
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Originally posted by Faraer
Although I never thought much about it, I suppose the enthusiasm for this emotionally distanced 'cool' is mainly what I find distasteful about some of the fandom for these characters.
Distasteful? So sorry to disappoint. We will try ever so much harder in the future.
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darkvarg
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 17:50:57
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I think the better question is who would win between Entreri and Riven (Before Riven became a demi-god) . Riven was always a more superior bladesman than Cale, Cale admitted as much in "The Halls of Stormweather" Cale just gained more divine power thus he became more powerful. Although i think a battle between Entreri and Riven would be epic i think Entreri would find a way to take advantage of
Riven's missing eye and eventually win. |
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 22:35:59
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I feel like Riven is just so much more careful than Entreri. He wouldn't get caught up in a battle with someone just to see who was better.
Course, I REALLY hope that Entreri's new-found pseudo-Shade-ism will allow him to have survived the Spellplague...I hope we get to see him in 5th ed... |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2009 : 13:22:57
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Originally posted by darkvarg
I think the better question is who would win between Entreri and Riven (Before Riven became a demi-god) .
Eh, are you sure? Especially since "X vs. Y" topics are discouraged here... |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2009 : 02:40:50
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Originally posted by Arion Elenim
We still don't know the full effects of Entreri's pseudo Shade-ism do we?
not yet. |
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swifty
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
517 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2009 : 08:29:04
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| cales stats pre shade were pretty feeble compared to entreris fighting wise. |
go back to sleep america.everything is under control.heres american gladiators.watch this.shuttup. BILL HICKS. |
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Drakul
Senior Scribe
USA
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Drizztsmanchild
Learned Scribe
USA
228 Posts |
Posted - 31 Mar 2009 : 04:17:02
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Ah. But when does the battle taking place? When both are in their prime? Artemis would prob win hands down. And lets not forget that even though Cale has Riven as an ally that Entreri has Bragen D'earthe and Jarlaxle to.
But if the battle takes place after The Road of the Patriarch, then all bets are off because it seemed to me that Entreri may have lost a little bit of his will to fight plus is losing an edge or 2 as he's getting older. |
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Drakul
Senior Scribe
USA
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2009 : 15:59:52
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Originally posted by Drakul
Don't forgetthat Artemis used his dagger on a Shade, thus prolonging his life.
Do we know for a fact what the exact effects of absorbing the "shadowstuff" are? I don't recall that they were ever actually stated. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 01 Apr 2009 : 19:45:28
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Do we know for a fact what the exact effects of absorbing the "shadowstuff" are? I don't recall that they were ever actually stated.
All we've been told directly is that his skin has started turning an ashy gray and that his Netherese sword now digs him.
We haven't been reminded of how old and slow he supposedly is in several books; if anything, he seems to be fighting as well as ever. So it's possible the aging process has been slowed. |
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