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dazzlerdal
Great Reader

United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 May 2015 :  10:34:24  Show Profile Send dazzlerdal a Private Message
Hi Ed,

Thankyou for the dwarf lore, it will come in very handy for fleshing out Dwarvenhome.

Regards

Dazzlerdal

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dazzlerdal
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 May 2015 :  12:48:15  Show Profile Send dazzlerdal a Private Message
Hi Ed/THO,

I was wondering about Shaundakul and his origins. I've noted him as supposedly appearing first around the time of the appearance of the Rus (-105 DR i have as the first mention for them). He is mentioned as being an intermediate power at Myth Drannor's height), and prior to that was venerated by traders in the northern Moonsea area (i reckon first cleared around -1050 DR).

I was wondering if Shaundakul's worship did not first arrive in Faerun with the Bedine and then spread to the Netherise survivor states and then on to Myth Drannor and the northern Moonsea (meanwhile the Bedine abandoned Shaundakul for various reasons).

As a second question, what was the reason for Beshaba masquerading as Shaundakul to the Bedine, was it in revenge for some slight or part of a far reaching plot, or just opportunism because they happened to think Shaundakul was evil and so he ignored them thereby allowed Beshaba to steal some power.

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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
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Posted - 19 May 2015 :  14:56:51  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Bear in mind that Beshaba herself was only 'created' right around the time the Bedine showed up - she used to be half of Tyche, when Netheril was still in power.
Which just made me think of something, but I'll post that in the other thread.

Question:
Ed, do you having anything interesting to share - something FR-related that you might be working on? A 'tease' to keep us all going awhile longer?

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 19 May 2015 14:57:09
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore

Brazil
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Posted - 20 May 2015 :  16:43:28  Show Profile  Click to see Barastir's MSN Messenger address Send Barastir a Private Message
Dear Ed,

Can you give us any detail about the lost elven realm of Askavar? I know it was dissolved about the 500s DR, but when was it founded? Who were its founders? Any details on the number of cities or settlements, and the kingdom's culture, religion, magic schools, defenses, would be welcome.

"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
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Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."

The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood)
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Duneth Despana
Learned Scribe

Belgium
246 Posts

Posted - 20 May 2015 :  19:34:44  Show Profile Send Duneth Despana a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Barastir

Dear Ed,

Can you give us any detail about the lost elven realm of Askavar? I know it was dissolved about the 500s DR, but when was it founded? Who were its founders? Any details on the number of cities or settlements, and the kingdom's culture, religion, magic schools, defenses, would be welcome.



+1 on this.
Back in December 2014 I asked this :
'Is there more to be said about Askavar the elven realm that used to be in the wood of the sharp teeth (or Glimmerwood as it used to be called)? What are it's ties (if any) to Shantel Othreier, Firewine Bridge and/or Vehlarr, Thanks in advance!'
but the scroll soon got locked because of the end of the year so it might have gone missed.


« There is no overriding « epic » in the Realms, but rather a large number of stories, adventures, and encounters going on all the time. [...]. Each creative mind adds to the base, creating, defining, and making their contribution to the rich diversity of the Realms. [...]. But Ed built the stage upon which all the plays are presented. Thanks Ed. » -FR Comic no.1
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Duneth Despana
Learned Scribe

Belgium
246 Posts

Posted - 20 May 2015 :  19:42:17  Show Profile Send Duneth Despana a Private Message
I note this passage from Dragon #222 about elves in the Wood of the Sharp Teeth:

'The Wood of the Sharp Teeth:
Recently, a small group of green elves
(about 50) has broken off from the tribe in
the Misty Forest and headed into the
Wood of Sharp Teeth near Baldur's Gate.
It seems there was an argument between
Speaker Eamond and Derdryl, an older
and much sterner elf, about courting the
favors of humans. The last report from
the Derdryl's group said that they had
made a temporary pact with a tribe of
satyrs and were continuing to forage deep
into the woods. Derdryl, it seems, is
obsessed in finding the ancient elven
empire of Anauria [[should this actually be Askavar*]] . He has used the argument
between himself and Eamond to
gather a group to explore the unknown
reaches of the Sharp Teeth. What he
expects to find is up to speculation. The
ruins of that fabled empire are old even
by elven standards, and it would appear
that Derdryl is leading his group on a
wild, and very dangerous, goose chase.'

« There is no overriding « epic » in the Realms, but rather a large number of stories, adventures, and encounters going on all the time. [...]. Each creative mind adds to the base, creating, defining, and making their contribution to the rich diversity of the Realms. [...]. But Ed built the stage upon which all the plays are presented. Thanks Ed. » -FR Comic no.1
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Azuth
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USA
402 Posts

Posted - 23 May 2015 :  02:53:51  Show Profile  Visit Azuth's Homepage Send Azuth a Private Message
Fellow Sages and Ed/THO,

I have tried (in vain) to see if I can find a scroll herein that discusses the impact/meaning of naming a mortal after a god. I've tried to determine how Torm (of the Knights of Myth Drannor) came to share a name with a deity, specifically a reply from Ed. However, and unfortunately, applying every kind of magic I know in searching, I still get every post that has the word "Storm" in it, and get over a thousand results. So, without further ado, my questions are:

How did Torm of the Knights come to share the name of a god, and what are the ramifications in doing so? Would a parent name a child after a god and why might he or she do so? Would a mortal be foolish, wise, or have no problems whatsoever by taking on a god's name as his or her own?

It would seem to me that if a deity has the ability to "hear" X seconds of speech within the time its name is spoken, it would be foolish to name one's self or a baby after any deity. Zealots not withstanding, it just seems very foolish, and I'm curious specifically about Torm.

Many thanks,

Azuth

Azuth, the First Magister
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Blueblade
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USA
804 Posts

Posted - 23 May 2015 :  03:02:24  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
That has been asked and answered before, actually, and Ed said that many, many mortals in the Realms are named after gods - -but that to Dispel Confusion, TSR cut back on "same names" in the published Realms (Ed's original Realms had both a demon and a devil named Ashtaroth, so if you were VERY careful in wording your summoning, the "wrong" one would show up, NOT under your control!).
Torm was one of the few exceptions because the character was a member of the Knights.
So it would follow that many parents do name their children after deities.
However, perhaps your post will nudge Ed or THO into saying something more on this . . .
BB
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TBeholder
Master of Realmslore

1396 Posts

Posted - 23 May 2015 :  09:03:42  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Azuth

I have tried (in vain) to see if I can find a scroll herein
Forum search is almost useless (it's something quaint over M$derp IIS, as you can see from error messages every time it starts drooling). My method is simple: download SSE collection, put it next to those free downloads, then use find|pdfgrep).
quote:
that discusses the impact/meaning of naming a mortal after a god. I've tried to determine how Torm (of the Knights of Myth Drannor) came to share a name with a deity, specifically a reply from Ed.

Partially answered at 30 Mar 2005.

People never wonder How the world goes round -Helloween
And even I make no pretense Of having more than common sense -R.W.Wood
It's not good, Eric. It's a gazebo. -Ed Whitchurch
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Eli the Tanner
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United Kingdom
148 Posts

Posted - 24 May 2015 :  22:59:28  Show Profile  Visit Eli the Tanner's Homepage Send Eli the Tanner a Private Message
Just wanted to wish Ed and his wife well and to say that his presence at GenCon will be greatly missed this year but that he is undoubtedly, precisely where he needs be. If Ed or the Greenwood family need anything then the community is here to help. Rest easy Sage.

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Barastir
Master of Realmslore

Brazil
1394 Posts

Posted - 26 May 2015 :  20:51:21  Show Profile  Click to see Barastir's MSN Messenger address Send Barastir a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Eli the Tanner

Just wanted to wish Ed and his wife well and to say that his presence at GenCon will be greatly missed this year but that he is undoubtedly, precisely where he needs be. If Ed or the Greenwood family need anything then the community is here to help. Rest easy Sage.


Dunno what's going on, but whatever it is, I wish the best for Ed and his wife. Can't do much from Brazil, but you can count on my prayers.

"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."

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(by Ed Greenwood)
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Irennan
Great Reader

Italy
2605 Posts

Posted - 26 May 2015 :  22:37:41  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message
Yeah, I've already posted it in the other scroll, but this is saddening to hear. All the best to both of them.

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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
13457 Posts

Posted - 27 May 2015 :  14:23:13  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Which thread/scroll would that be?

Sending love and prayers for you and yours, Ed.

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Irennan
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Italy
2605 Posts

Posted - 27 May 2015 :  15:07:14  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Which thread/scroll would that be?

Sending love and prayers for you and yours, Ed.



This one: http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19907

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Duneth Despana
Learned Scribe

Belgium
246 Posts

Posted - 28 May 2015 :  11:43:04  Show Profile Send Duneth Despana a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Eli the Tanner

Just wanted to wish Ed and his wife well and to say that his presence at GenCon will be greatly missed this year but that he is undoubtedly, precisely where he needs be. If Ed or the Greenwood family need anything then the community is here to help. Rest easy Sage.



I (as, I suspect, everybody here at the 'Keep) wish the Greenwoods all the courage in the world.

« There is no overriding « epic » in the Realms, but rather a large number of stories, adventures, and encounters going on all the time. [...]. Each creative mind adds to the base, creating, defining, and making their contribution to the rich diversity of the Realms. [...]. But Ed built the stage upon which all the plays are presented. Thanks Ed. » -FR Comic no.1
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Arcanus
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Posted - 30 May 2015 :  15:37:54  Show Profile  Visit Arcanus's Homepage Send Arcanus a Private Message
Just want to echo the good wishes from everyone here to Ed and his lady.
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TBeholder
Master of Realmslore

1396 Posts

Posted - 01 Jun 2015 :  01:44:55  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message
Best wishes...

People never wonder How the world goes round -Helloween
And even I make no pretense Of having more than common sense -R.W.Wood
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The Sage
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Plenty for me to catch up on in this scroll. Let the recompilation, re... commence.

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BenN
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Japan
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Posted - 01 Jun 2015 :  10:43:54  Show Profile Send BenN a Private Message
Very best wishes & positive vibes for Ed & his family.
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Drustan Dwnhaedan
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USA
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Posted - 02 Jun 2015 :  20:28:37  Show Profile Send Drustan Dwnhaedan a Private Message
Prayers and best wishes for you and your family, Ed.

Edited by - Drustan Dwnhaedan on 02 Jun 2015 20:29:30
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Marco Volo
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France
166 Posts

Posted - 04 Jun 2015 :  07:04:32  Show Profile Send Marco Volo a Private Message
Thanks Ed for the recent information about "banks" in Waterdeep. Best wishes of course, and good vibes.

Marco
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Caladan Brood
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Norway
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Posted - 04 Jun 2015 :  12:54:09  Show Profile  Visit Caladan Brood's Homepage Send Caladan Brood a Private Message
I don't know if Ed is the creator of Evereska and the Greycloak Hills, but I believe he wrote a Volo's article in a Dragon issue where it was stated that the Elves in the Greycloak Hills live inside tombs. This begs the question - who is entombed, why would nature-loving Elves live inside dank tombs?
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Blueblade
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Posted - 04 Jun 2015 :  17:01:17  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Yes Ed is the creator of Evereska and the Greycloak Hills, because a photocopy of his taped-together pencil maps was displayed at his roast at GenCon years back, and I stared at them for about ten minutes, and remembering seeing both of those features.
However, re. the tombs, I haven't the faintest. Hope Ed surfaces with new lore replies soon.

BB
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BenN
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Japan
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Posted - 05 Jun 2015 :  01:05:15  Show Profile Send BenN a Private Message
I haven't read the article, but from my understanding, the elves of Evereska & the Greycloak hills patrolled the tombs, to protect them from adventurers robbers, rather than lived in them.

Living in the tombs would seem a bit too morbid, and I don't think the elves are into the goth/emo scene.
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TBeholder
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 07 Jun 2015 :  08:31:47  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Caladan Brood

but I believe he wrote a Volo's article in a Dragon issue where it was stated that the Elves in the Greycloak Hills live inside tombs. This begs the question -

As it often happens, the question contains its own answer: "Volo's article".

People never wonder How the world goes round -Helloween
And even I make no pretense Of having more than common sense -R.W.Wood
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