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Irennan
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 Posted - 22 Jan 2015 : 17:00:56
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Originally posted by Eilserus
Can't say I'm disappointed in the Adventurers Handbook disappearing. Those have always been my least favorite (or purchased) types of books.
I'm not pleased to see it go. Not because of the crunch, but because -at least according to the description that was posted on the site that leaked it- it was supposed to contain a whole section dedicated to updated FR lore. |
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 22 Jan 2015 : 17:57:12
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Now that I didn't know. Would have bought it if that was the case. :(
But to elaborate on things, from Paizo's website their adventure path books are $22.99 and by signing up for the monthly subscription (recurring revenue IS the way to go) you get 30% off the "96-page, perfect-bound, full-color softcover book printed on high-quality paper", which would bring your total to $16.09 plus shipping. You also get a free PDF copy of the book. This only works on products for your subscription, not anything released in the past, but you DO get 15% off other purchases on the site.
That's an insanely good deal. And it's not quite the kick in the arse like dropping $49.99 in one shot. Most folks won't blink an eye when spending 20 bucks, 50 is going to make them pause and think. Thinking can be a sales killer. And here's the funny thing, with a 6 part adventure path, they're making $96.54 for all six books from subscribers and $137.94 from non-subscribers who purchase. That's twice to almost 3 times what WotC will earn from one adventure path. It really is a sexy model.
I don't understand why WotC isn't offering the same. When it comes to competitive advantage, you shamelessly steal the best practices of your rival companies to strengthen your own.
And just to give WotC the benefit of the doubt, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the budget required to fire such a thing up is flatly being denied to them by Hasbro. |
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Gary Dallison
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jan 2015 : 22:17:43
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Originally posted by Jeremy Grenemyer
On the question of the slow release schedule for the Realms (and for D&D in general), ENWorld posted a quote from Mike Mearls that is apropos the topic: "For instance, we now know that the high volume release schedule for 3e and 4e turned out to be bad for D&D. It wasn't too many settings that hurt TSR, but too many D&D books of any kind. lots of experiments ahead..."
So it's experiments going forward. I wonder what that means for the Realms?
Read more: http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?408983-UPDATED-Has-ADVENTURER-S-HANDBOOK-Been-Cancelled#ixzz3PWGEnfwT
To paraphrase what I said in another thread...
During the 3E and 4E era, in addition to the FR material, we had 8,001 "Races of " books, and class books, and did things like take what was formerly one book and split into 2 or 3 (like with the dragon stuff, or even the core rulebooks).
So the reference to publishing too much may not have had anything to do with setting material -- especially since the quoted blurb did refer to "support for the RPG." |
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Eltheron
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 22 Jan 2015 : 23:13:20
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
To paraphrase what I said in another thread...
During the 3E and 4E era, in addition to the FR material, we had 8,001 "Races of " books, and class books, and did things like take what was formerly one book and split into 2 or 3 (like with the dragon stuff, or even the core rulebooks).
So the reference to publishing too much may not have had anything to do with setting material -- especially since the quoted blurb did refer to "support for the RPG."
IIRC, didn't it come out that books like the Silver Marches really underperformed financially?
Many people here, I'm sure, would consider that regional sourcebook one of the best produced in terms of Realms lore.
Yet if it didn't do well financially, what's WotC to conclude?
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 22 Jan 2015 : 23:49:37
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Originally posted by Eltheron
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
To paraphrase what I said in another thread...
During the 3E and 4E era, in addition to the FR material, we had 8,001 "Races of " books, and class books, and did things like take what was formerly one book and split into 2 or 3 (like with the dragon stuff, or even the core rulebooks).
So the reference to publishing too much may not have had anything to do with setting material -- especially since the quoted blurb did refer to "support for the RPG."
IIRC, didn't it come out that books like the Silver Marches really underperformed financially?
Many people here, I'm sure, would consider that regional sourcebook one of the best produced in terms of Realms lore.
Yet if it didn't do well financially, what's WotC to conclude?
I'm not sure what they concluded, especially since we had a lot of setting sourcebooks -- some of which were regional -- after that. |
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Gary Dallison
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News on 5e campaign setting?
