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Nicolai Withander
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Posted - 11 Aug 2014 :  16:45:05  Show Profile Send Nicolai Withander a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I was casually reading about stuff on FR Wiki when I came across Menzobberanzan, and there is a map added to that articles wich presnts the city at a rouch size of 4000ft x 3200 ft. Now to me this seems like a very small city. Especially considering that the population (3.0 - 3.5) was between 60.000 and 30.000. This actually give 5 - 10 times as many people per square kilometer as New York... can these number be correct. Im personally guessing the map is wrong. Can anyone share some light on this?

Eilserus
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Posted - 11 Aug 2014 :  17:02:09  Show Profile Send Eilserus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Baenre compound is a quarter of a mile long. The cavern itself is about 2 miles long at it's widest.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 11 Aug 2014 :  17:19:56  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Most FR cities don't have accurate map keys, so we don't know their true dimensions.

That said, I would certainly expect a higher population density in an Underdark city, especially one with a lot of residents that can levitate.

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The Arcanamach
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Posted - 11 Aug 2014 :  18:02:56  Show Profile Send The Arcanamach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What Wooley said, and keep in mind that the Underdark HAS to build in three dimensions. Even though surface cities technically do so as well, they have far more room in which to grow 'out' (urban sprawl) than regions of the Underdark have.

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Cards77
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Posted - 11 Aug 2014 :  18:28:32  Show Profile Send Cards77 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
in 1372, the population is listed as 32,000. Approximately 1/3rd are drow.

It's implied, but not specifically covered in various novels and sourcebooks that the slave pens and slums (the warrens?) are extremely dense with poor drow and non drow humaniods. The Kobold warrens are packed unbelievably tight.

Look at the population density of Singapore.
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Eilserus
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Posted - 11 Aug 2014 :  19:00:35  Show Profile Send Eilserus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
True, the Clawrift tunnels supposedly held 60k of the little rats.
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BEAST
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Posted - 11 Aug 2014 :  21:44:16  Show Profile  Visit BEAST's Homepage Send BEAST a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Menzo was said to be two miles wide and a thousand feet high, the first time it was described in Homeland (Prelude).

It is also said to not be a particularly large city by drow standards (Homeland, Pre.).

The House Baenre compound is said to be 3/8 of a mile wide, and 1/4 mile north-south (Menzoberranzan [Boxed Set], Starless Night).

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Eilserus
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Posted - 11 Aug 2014 :  22:38:57  Show Profile Send Eilserus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BEAST

Menzo was said to be two miles wide and a thousand feet high, the first time it was described in Homeland (Prelude).

It is also said to not be a particularly large city by drow standards (Homeland, Pre.).

The House Baenre compound is said to be 3/8 of a mile wide, and 1/4 mile north-south (Menzoberranzan [Boxed Set], Starless Night).



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