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Neo2151
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 06 Jun 2014 : 07:54:55
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Let me just start by saying that when I reference "shadow magic," I'm not talking about Illusion magic of the Shadow subschool. I'm talking about Shadow Magic ala The Shadow Stone by Rich Baker.
I was just curious if these are supposed to be the same thing, or if they're inherently different? I ask because, reading The Shadow Stone, the description of shadow magic feels very different than everything we hear about magic cast from the Shadow Weave.
(I figured it would have been discussed back around the time Return of the Archwizards came out, but I didn't find what I was looking for via forum search).
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hashimashadoo
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Jun 2014 : 10:44:31
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The Shadow Stone is not the best example of shadow magic in the Realms. The novel was supposed to be set in Anuire from the Birthright campaign setting and then sort of got forced into Chessenta where it didn't quite fit. In Birthright, shadow magic functions differently than it does in the Realms.
That being said, it has been established that shadow magic and the Shadow Weave in the Realms aren't necessarily the same thing. Shadow magic is merely shadowy magic that can be fueled by the Weave or the Shadow Weave while Shadow Weave Magic is entirely separate.
You should check out the Class Chronicles articles by Eytan Bernstein for examples of shadow magic in the Realms. |
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Edited by - hashimashadoo on 06 Jun 2014 10:50:05 |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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hashimashadoo
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1150 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2014 : 10:52:30
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I'd say it was because the fractious nature of Chessenta was most like Anuire. |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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The Masked Mage
Great Reader
USA
2420 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2014 : 21:30:27
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quote: Originally posted by hashimashadoo That being said, it has been established that shadow magic and the Shadow Weave in the Realms aren't necessarily the same thing. Shadow magic is merely shadowy magic that can be fueled by the Weave or the Shadow Weave while Shadow Weave Magic is entirely separate.
Also remember that there are numerous different kinds of 'shadow magic' that have been described over the years in realms novels. All of which come from a different understanding to or relationship with shadow. In short over the years its gotten to be a very muddled term. |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 29 Jun 2014 : 21:36:06
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I would add my opinion that Shadow magic is not the same as using the Shadow Weave.
Psionics had shadow abilities, thieves had shadow ability, elves have had shadow magic. All of these did not use the Shadow Weave. |
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