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mikie
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 Posted - 24 Apr 2014 : 00:25:10
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Well met again. Got or have a interesting question. Does anyone know of a god/goddess for the trained assassin? I have a player who wants to become multi-class. You guessed it...a priest. I was looking over the FAITHS & AVATARS book and the only diety I found was MASK. Am I correct or is there another god/goddess? Looking for any input. Thanks all!
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Apr 2014 : 00:29:24
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The Blood Lust Lord Bhaal
The Mad God Cyric
Lord Mask
the Tyrant of Tyrants Bane
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why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
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mikie
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 24 Apr 2014 : 01:40:54
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Thanks. I forgot about Bhaal.
Originally posted by sfdragon
The Blood Lust Lord Bhaal
The Mad God Cyric
Lord Mask
the Tyrant of Tyrants Bane
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore
India
1591 Posts |
Posted - 24 Apr 2014 : 14:08:26
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All true assassins worship Mask. It is known. |
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mikie
Seeker
USA
73 Posts |
Posted - 24 Apr 2014 : 15:53:14
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Masks' portfolio suggests: thieves, thievery & shadows. However, his allies were Bane, Cyric, & Bhaal which are dead. Did he "absorb" some of their traits? Hmmmmm...quote:
Originally posted by Thauranil
All true assassins worship Mask. It is known.
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hashimashadoo
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Apr 2014 : 17:59:46
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It does rather depend on when your game is set.
* From 1358 - 1485, there was no Bhaal (though he did still have a lot of followers who were granted spells by Cyric)
* From 1358 - 1369, there was no Bane. In 1369 he was replaced by Iyachtu Xvim and then in 1372, Bane replaced Xvim again.
* From 1385 - ?, Cyric seemingly goes increasingly insane after being imprisoned, alone, in his divine plane. I would say that after this point, it would be less likely that your assassin player would be a follower of Cyric.
* From 1374 - 1474, there was no Mask. His divinity was divided up until the events of The God born. |
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Mirtek
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 24 Apr 2014 : 19:02:14
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Originally posted by mikie
Did he "absorb" some of their traits? Hmmmmm...
No, he actually lost some of his traits to Cyric (who by the way is the only true deity for assassins).
As far as Bhaal is concerned I don't even know what he is supposed to be now. Technically he was the lord of death (and only impatient and thus favoring murder over waiting for natural death), but not the lord of murder like Cyric is currently |
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Lothlos
Learned Scribe
USA
111 Posts |
Posted - 24 Apr 2014 : 19:12:17
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Actually Bhaal has risen again after the event in the Murder in Baldur's Gate adventure. So both Bhasl and Mask have returned in the current Realms.
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The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with eager feet,
Until it joins some larger way
Where many paths and errands meet.
And whither then? I cannot say.
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Aldrick
Senior Scribe
909 Posts |
Posted - 24 Apr 2014 : 22:15:44
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As hashimashadoo points out, it depends on when your game is set. It also depends on the finer points of the assassins personality and mindset. Post-Time of Troubles Cyric would receive prayers from pretty much any assassin, at least before they make the kill, as he's the god of murder. Prior to the Time of Troubles, Bhaal would be the one receiving those prayers.
All the deities sfdragon listed could work. However, as your player wants to be a cleric as well... I'd also add Shar to the list. As the Lady of Loss, she's also a very appropriate deity for an assassin. Especially one more religiously inclined who multi-classes as a priest.
Loss, Darkness, and the Night are all part of Shar's portfolios. A worship of Shar could easily replace the worship of Mask, who is more focused on thieves and thievery.
An alternative for an assassin / priest, aside from Shar, would be Cyric as he's the deity of intrigue, lies, and deception in addition to murder.
Either Shar or Cyric would make ideal patrons for such a character. It just depends on where you want the focus to be... if you want the focus to be more on the religious aspect of the character, go with Shar. If you want the focus to be more on the assassin aspect of the character, go with Cyric. |
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 24 Apr 2014 : 22:32:29
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This discussion is a good example of why I don't like deicide and the general shake up of the Realms over the past couple of editions. A DM/player shouldn't have to ask these types of questions with so many hoops to jump through to arrive at a likely conclusion.
I will second Aldrick's statements about Shar (even though I've gotten sick of her she does make a likely candidate for assassin's). |
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Firestorm
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 25 Apr 2014 : 00:24:06
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At one point, Gilgeam I thought had a large assassin following.
But since he is dead, although nearly resurrected in Alabaster staff, does not matter.
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Lord of Bones
Seeker
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Apr 2014 : 09:20:43
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| Talona as goddess of poison is also a good choice. Myrkul is a good fit if your character feels like he's serving to strengthen the realm of his deity ("the dead"). I can see assassins worshiping Talos and Loviatar if they're just in it for the kicks. |
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Baltas
Senior Scribe
Poland
955 Posts |
Posted - 25 Apr 2014 : 16:44:01
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eeorey
Seeker
Bulgaria
96 Posts |
Posted - 25 Apr 2014 : 17:06:01
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| Bhaal, worshiping a dead deity while killing people adds a whole new level of bad***, it's perfect for the sort of creepy assassin/mad zealot type of character. |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Apr 2014 : 03:34:45
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| Dont forget Sseth.... and Set...... oh wait, forget SEt, he's a #^&%$&%%^@#% @^#^&$&$& #^#$^#$&$&, and has no class. |
why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
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MrHedgehog
Senior Scribe
688 Posts |
Posted - 26 Apr 2014 : 04:59:34
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 26 Apr 2014 : 10:02:34
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| Malar as a god of bloodlust as well would fit. All depends on the mindset of the character you're developing. |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Apr 2014 : 20:46:31
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taht dwarven god of greed too... in their times deep duerra and laguer ( oh look its something else I cant spell from memory.) |
why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
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