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Thorn Illance
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 Posted - 27 Jan 2014 : 03:37:28
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After reading a bunch of old posts here at the Keep re: RSEs, I think it's pretty obvious that "Tyranny of Dragons" will be very similar to "Rise of the Underdark"; it's a marketing event that will be Dragon-centric.
Anyone even know what the Realms-shaking consequences of RotU were? There were none. Hell, Irvin's book, "Demon Weave", was apparently cancelled. Johnson's "Spider and Stone" hardly garnered any discussion.
I think Brian's OP was meant to stir the hive. Unfortunately, there is a very small, effectively marginal group of fans who just can't wait to poo-poo everything Wizards does. |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 Jan 2014 : 05:01:38
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The Temple reminds me of the Twisted Temple of Istar from Dragonlance.
Viking type Longships are common in the Swordcoast...from the Moonshae Isles to Luskan, these ships are used by many. I think they are viable as a navy for the sorts of lightning raids they are talking about.
So far I will wait and see...but I'm hearing "Dragonlance" in my head right now, and I'm sure Laura and Tracy Hickman and Margaret Weiss are sure to see the similarity as well!
I have one thing here that will pretty much remove me from the Realms if they do it: if all the Good Dragons stay out of it because the evil dragons have stolen their eggs...I swear to all that is unholy or holy that I will leave the Realms behind. |
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 27 Jan 2014 : 20:06:01
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I have one thing here that will pretty much remove me from the Realms if they do it: if all the Good Dragons stay out of it because the evil dragons have stolen their eggs...I swear to all that is unholy or holy that I will leave the Realms behind.
I'm sure they wont go that route but I think I would be right behind you if they went that far with it. In fact, the similarities likely need to stop where they are...anything more would be a bit much. |
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 27 Jan 2014 : 21:35:48
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
The Temple reminds me of the Twisted Temple of Istar from Dragonlance.
Viking type Longships are common in the Swordcoast...from the Moonshae Isles to Luskan, these ships are used by many. I think they are viable as a navy for the sorts of lightning raids they are talking about.
So far I will wait and see...but I'm hearing "Dragonlance" in my head right now, and I'm sure Laura and Tracy Hickman and Margaret Weiss are sure to see the similarity as well!
I have one thing here that will pretty much remove me from the Realms if they do it: if all the Good Dragons stay out of it because the evil dragons have stolen their eggs...I swear to all that is unholy or holy that I will leave the Realms behind.
Those Longships are common in the Swordcoast but the word 'Viking' as far as I know doesn't exist in the Realms. I see the word 'viking' it pulls me out of the game. Unless it was intentional. Tiamat opened a portal up to Earths past for example. As for the Dragonlance theme, well in the annotated Dragonlance Chronicles the age old question about Takhisis and Tiamat being the one and the same was unofficially answered. Maybe someone at WotC decided to make it Grubb-official.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 27 Jan 2014 : 21:45:52
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I'm sure the use of the word Viking was not intended in-setting. That's a press release, more than anything. Most of the press wouldn't know the difference between a hobbit and a hole in the ground, so WotC simplified it for them.
Note also the use of the phrase "Forgotten Realms" -- to the inhabitants, it's not at all forgotten, and is just called the Realms. |
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GreyhawkGrognard
Acolyte
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Posted - 28 Jan 2014 : 15:27:02
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Originally posted by Derulbaskul
Apparently two things sell really well for WotC: dragons and drow. On that basis, and considering their skeleton crew these days, I can understand from a business perspective simply going back to an old well rather than trying to thing of something more creative.
Bear in mind that these adventure modules are apparently being written by a freelancer, Steve Winter:
At the moment, however, I'm writing the first set of adventures that will be published for D&D Next -- Tyranny of Dragons, look for it this summer -- and I'm behind on my deadline (I'm always behind on one deadline or another, it seems).
Source: http://www.howlingtower.com/2014/01/happy-40th-birthday-d.html |
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 28 Jan 2014 : 15:35:54
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Hail and well met GreyhawkGrognard...I did not realize you were a lurker at Candlekeep!
Does anyone know anything about Steve Winter? |
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Kyrel
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 28 Jan 2014 : 21:11:06
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| I think I'll restrain my comment on this development to this: "GROAN" |
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Demzer
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Dark Wizard
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 28 Jan 2014 : 21:31:00
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Steve Winter is currently a freelancer, but he was a long-time staff at TSR (started 1981) and later WotC. He was let go from his position December 2011 (typical winter layoffs).
As he said in his blog post for the 40th Anniversary of D&D, "I've been neck-deep in D&D for 36 of those 40 years, and for 33 of them I've earned my living from it."
He was an editor of many products in the 1st and 2nd Edition line, this continued through 3E and well into 4E.
He's credited as co-creator of the Marvel Super Heroes Game (Wiki: Jeff Grubb designed both editions, and Steve Winter wrote both editions). Editor for Star Frontiers, Gangbusters, World of Greyhawk, Top Secret and I think some of Boot Hill (going by internet sites, but I'm sure if you crack open the covers of these products you'll see his name in them).
He designed the Complete Psionics Handbook (2E), Historical Reference: A Mighty Fortress (2E), and for 3E he designed Monsters Manual II and Lords of Madness.
For the Realms, he co-wrote the Ruins of Adventure, which would become the Pool of Radiance computer game.
He is the current editor of Dragon Magazine (DDI).
We can add designer of Tyranny of Dragons to his extensive list of credits.
Edit: Sniped by Demzer. Yeah, I'm quite certain that's the Steve Winter we're talking about. |
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 29 Jan 2014 : 01:29:39
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| Being laid off after that long with the company had to suck. Of course, I dunno what the inner workings of the company were at the time...there's been much speculation on the matter. |
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