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Fellfire
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 Posted - 17 May 2012 : 22:02:10
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So, I am looking for a little advice. I plan on using the Wooly Mammoth from Frostburn. I had thought to have my PC's consult the matriarch of the mastodons, (Runetusk?) perhaps an awakened animal sacred to Oghma(?), even a spell-caster. It is said elephants (pachyderms) never forget. I was thinking of running an oracle encounter in an Elephant Graveyard. If such an animal were telepathically capable of communication, would complex concepts such as say, blame or regret be within their lexicon? Or would fight or flight or food be their primary response? How would you role-play this conversation? Looking for any suggestions.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 17 May 2012 : 22:39:13
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It depends on the Intelligence of the critter... And doesn't the awaken spell boost the animal to human intelligence?
I would say that even with human intelligence, an animal would be more concerned with animal things: food, avoiding predators, mating, all that. An awakened animal that's been around people, however, would understand those human concerns, at least to some extent. I would say that an awakened mammoth that is sacred to Oghma would be quite aware of human concerns, and has likely dealt with humans a lot in the past. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 17 May 2012 : 22:41:05
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An idea I've tinkered with is an awakened velociraptor (like the Jurassic Park ones, not the real ones) that is a priest of Malar...  |
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Posted - 17 May 2012 : 22:44:52
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Fellfire
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Posted - 18 May 2012 : 00:49:42
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| Wooly, have you seen Goodman Games Complete Guide to Velociraptors? Therein are suggestions for running tribal-type deinonychus'. Not a great book, but a decent one. |
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Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 18 May 2012 : 01:41:51
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
An idea I've tinkered with is an awakened velociraptor (like the Jurassic Park ones, not the real ones) that is a priest of Malar...
And the Isle of Lurath in the Sea of Fallen Stars -- since it's already populated by dinosaurs -- remains the perfect setting for a Jurassic Park-styled adventure in the Realms. |
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Sightless
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Posted - 18 May 2012 : 01:46:06
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I actually played something like this once. Well, I was a wail, but that’s beside the point. Some things I said, which might be useful.
And the burning one that chases after Elah = day
When Elah, walks= night
Feeding the mind belly = anything that doesn’t involve physical nourishment, or shelter, but is sought after.
When the dragon is fully awake = summer
When the dragon slumbers = winter
Months and years weren’t understood as such, but rather were linked to basic changes. In my case, it was something like
Before the forming of the reaf at the river’s mouth where the Samon go to mate.
In your case, it could be, when this dieing place was young = a long time ago
Before the coming of the ivory hunters, or When the bulls were few and the calves fewer.
This is just a start, the more I think about it, the more I’ll respond. Hopefully, this will give you a few ideas. I should note, this was back when I was just playing NPCs, and only there to help out the DM. |
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Thauranil
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Posted - 18 May 2012 : 15:36:02
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Elephants are actually quite intelligent , they even capable of showing signs of recognition when looking at themselves in a mirror so with the added bonus of the spell they should easily reach human level intelligence. Though this intelligence may manifest in different ways compared to human intelligence.
For example they would be likely to be more intuitive and emotionally expressive than humans. |
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Ayrik
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Posted - 18 May 2012 : 16:56:41
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| I think humans (as a species) are already overly intuitive and emotionally expressive ... but sorely lacking in rational and objective forms of intelligence. Elephants with human-equivalent intellects might turn out to be brilliant mathematicians, logicians, and scientists, entirely unmoved by quaint human attachment towards (and dependency upon) emotionally-satisfying fabrications. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 18 May 2012 : 17:01:05
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| I just thought of this... There is already an established race of humanoid elephants in the Realms, the loxo. Sure, that's not what we're looking for, here -- but the info on them (which isn't much more than a page in a Monstrous Compendium) could still offer some inspiration. |
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Sightless
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Posted - 18 May 2012 : 17:12:56
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Originally posted by Ayrik
I think humans (as a species) are already overly intuitive and emotionally expressive ... but sorely lacking in rational and objective forms of intelligence. Elephants with human-equivalent intellects might turn out to be brilliant mathematicians, logicians, and scientists, entirely unmoved by quaint human attachment towards (and dependency upon) emotionally-satisfying fabrications.
That's part of humanities problems, general lack of retrospective and introspective thought by a large part of the populis combined with short term gratification over long term gratification is another element. If elephents only had another truely apposable digit, there's no telling how far the leve of neurological development might be through self-actualized eenvirnmental enrichment. |
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Thauranil
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Posted - 18 May 2012 : 17:32:26
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Originally posted by Ayrik
I think humans (as a species) are already overly intuitive and emotionally expressive ... but sorely lacking in rational and objective forms of intelligence. Elephants with human-equivalent intellects might turn out to be brilliant mathematicians, logicians, and scientists, entirely unmoved by quaint human attachment towards (and dependency upon) emotionally-satisfying fabrications.
Good point .
But seriously elephants have an extremely strong family based society , so it is unlikely they will turn into rational scientists. Though that might be interesting in its own right. |
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Sightless
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Posted - 18 May 2012 : 17:41:01
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Originally posted by Ayrik
I think humans (as a species) are already overly intuitive and emotionally expressive ... but sorely lacking in rational and objective forms of intelligence. Elephants with human-equivalent intellects might turn out to be brilliant mathematicians, logicians, and scientists, entirely unmoved by quaint human attachment towards (and dependency upon) emotionally-satisfying fabrications.
Good point.
But seriously elephants have an extremely strong family based society , so it is unlikely they will turn into rational scientists. Though that might be interesting in its own right.
You know this is a great example of a reduxio ad Aherium, do you mind if I borrow it?
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Ayrik
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Posted - 18 May 2012 : 18:26:47
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Sightless
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Posted - 18 May 2012 : 18:52:56
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* grin*
I was refereing to Thauranil there, but thanks there.
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 18 May 2012 : 23:06:39
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Originally posted by Sightless
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Originally posted by Thauranil
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Originally posted by Ayrik
I think humans (as a species) are already overly intuitive and emotionally expressive ... but sorely lacking in rational and objective forms of intelligence. Elephants with human-equivalent intellects might turn out to be brilliant mathematicians, logicians, and scientists, entirely unmoved by quaint human attachment towards (and dependency upon) emotionally-satisfying fabrications.
Good point.
But seriously elephants have an extremely strong family based society , so it is unlikely they will turn into rational scientists. Though that might be interesting in its own right.
You know this is a great example of a reduxio ad Aherium, do you mind if I borrow it?
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Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 18 May 2012 : 23:16:56
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I know about reducing something to absurdity...not too clear on the Aherium myself?
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spelling...AND
If you want awakened animals to kinda look at, the Realms is full of them!
I mean, we have Worgs as an example...Minotaurs (perhaps not a good example...but there) and many others.
The only race that I thought was really cool that I thought I came up with that didn't have a similar creature was a race of intelligent carrion eaters called the Vulturan (from big ol' Turkey Vultures) that I thought would be interesting.
They venerated a particular Vrock highly, and their greatest spellcaster had acquired the ability to Summon it (though I can't remember the name). They often looted battle-fields and such for anything they could find beyond eating the dead. They had even started to take slaves of smaller races to force them to build for them.
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Sightless
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Posted - 18 May 2012 : 23:35:38
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My apologies, let me explain, it's simeilar to that in scope, as means reduction of assumptions. In logical arguments, it's either assuming something that's not actually there, or assuming tha two elements are controdictory when they aren't. the classic example of this is emotion and reason having to be mutually exclusive, when they aren't. In this case, having strong family ties,
(A and Sbq)
can be conjoined to, and has been conjoined to
(B and Rtf)
This forms a statement with both elements joined with an and.
What this means in language is that one can have strong family ties and still be rational, as the presence or absence of one doesn't necesitate any impact on the other. I liked the statement, because it's one that nearly all my tutoring students make in some respect or another, and the language of it was so marvelously worded. I'm probably sounding like a horendous nerd right now. |
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Sightless
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Posted - 18 May 2012 : 23:38:31
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Fellfire, I'm probably missing something, but it sounds like all you did there was quote people, and I get the feeling that this isn't the case, is there an image there? usually JAWS will tell me if one is there, but not what it is, that's why I'm asking.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 18 May 2012 : 23:59:11
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Fellfire, I'm probably missing something, but it sounds like all you did there was quote people, and I get the feeling that this isn't the case, is there an image there? usually JAWS will tell me if one is there, but not what it is, that's why I'm asking.
His post was just three question marks, indicating he was questioning that which he quoted. |
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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 19 May 2012 : 00:01:08
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| He only placed three question marks mate. Short-hand for a question from some. |
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Sightless
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Posted - 19 May 2012 : 00:11:49
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Odd, I heard the question marks in both of yours, but not his. Just one of theose many mysteries of the internet that'll never be explained. Thanks both for clearing that up.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 19 May 2012 : 03:00:07
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I just thought of this... There is already an established race of humanoid elephants in the Realms, the loxo. Sure, that's not what we're looking for, here -- but the info on them (which isn't much more than a page in a Monstrous Compendium) could still offer some inspiration.
You'll also find some updated info about the loxo in 3e's Shining South, which reveals that this curious race of intelligent elephants arrived in Realmspace via spelljammer.
Which, in itself, raised some further interesting questions about them. I've always been curious about the Loxoth homeworld, and what other intelligent animals might be inhabiting it. |
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Kentinal
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Posted - 19 May 2012 : 03:39:24
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So, I am looking for a little advice. I plan on using the Wooly Mammoth from Frostburn. I had thought to have my PC's consult the matriarch of the mastodons, (Runetusk?) perhaps an awakened animal sacred to Oghma(?), even a spell-caster. It is said elephants (pachyderms) never forget. I was thinking of running an oracle encounter in an Elephant Graveyard. If such an animal were telepathically capable of communication, would complex concepts such as say, blame or regret be within their lexicon? Or would fight or flight or food be their primary response? How would you role-play this conversation? Looking for any suggestions.
I am trying to consider all parts of this.
Runetusk is as good a name as any for a mage of mastodons, as matriarch might even be a Chosen of Oghma. Clearly awaken spell can increase the stats, however divine intervention can do that as well.
Well telepathic ability clearly possible for a mage (Or magical item for any class), if you want clearly could consider psionics (however not required).
It is clearly believed Elephants have very good memories, that they remember friends and foes for years. Being awakened, there should be some wisdom that should be bought to any conversation.
I would say, blame regret, sorrow all could enter a conversation the reaction to the specific individuals seeking the oracle by their questions very well could determine reaction. As the graveyard is generally off limits to non race, I could see a very hostile reaction as posible unless contact made slowly and clearly one of peace. In fact I would likely play it more like the matriarch would not let outsiders in the graveyard, however might meet with them near it (25 miles or more away, a few days travel ). |
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Fellfire
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Posted - 19 May 2012 : 07:59:51
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| Sorry for the confusion, Sightless. I hadn't heard that quote before and a quick Google yielded no results. My Latin has lain fallow since A+P back in high school. |
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Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
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Fellfire
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Posted - 19 May 2012 : 08:24:26
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I will look in to the Loxo for some inspiration. Thank you for the suggestion, Scribes.
I will elaborate a bit on the idea that I had. First off, I had thought Oghma a good choice for the patron of an awakened mammoth considering the fact that they are said to be highly intelligent and perhaps even to possess some form of racial memory, but I'm open to other suggestions. I considered making the animal Chosen/Favored, whatever, so that telepathic communication would be possible. I'm not sure that's graven in stone anywhere, but it seems reasonable to me. I had also thought a few clerical levels would be appropriate. As far as gaining the animal's trust and the honor of being allowed to visit their sacred site and their Eldest I planned on running an encounter with a dire/fiendish smilodon or something. My biggest obstacle was scripting dialogue. I'm still really unsure how much "humanity" (if that's the right word) to assign the creature in conversation. Anyhow, I hope that clears up my intentions a little. Thanks for all the replies thus far. |
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Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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Ayrik
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Posted - 19 May 2012 : 08:56:56
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You might want to check out Oliphants (2E MM); Baku, Maelephants, and Hollyphants (2E MC8: Outer Planes Appendix; MC Appendices: Planescape I, Planescape II); Kaluk and Shirokinukatsukami (2E MC6: Kara-Tur Appendix).
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Surprisingly, there seem to be no special elephant-creatures in Zakhara (2E MC13: Al-Qadim Appendix). I would expect Chult to be a fine place for anything of the sort to appear within the Realms, but my library has few materials covering the region. An elephantine counterpart to Giff spelljammers might also be an interesting possibility. Gods help us if some fool has introduced misbegotten strains of "elefey" or "were-loxo" creatures into the D&D ecosystem.
Why pick Oghma as a patron deity for sentient elephants? The Realms (at least, the pre-4E Realms) could and did easily accomodate any number of Beast Lords, Beast Cults, monstrous pantheons, and generally non-human deities. It's also always possible for interloper or immigrant powers to be introduced to the Realms along with the arrival of their followers from other worlds. A dormant or foreign elephantine power (an aspect of Indra, from the Vedic/Hindu pantheon, as just one possible example) might assert presence in the Realms, creating followers with a sort of transformation/blessing/curse resembling an elephanty version of minotaurs.
I might be mistaken, but I recall some canon mention of the Harpells possessing miniature and sentient versions of several (normally large and dumb) animals, including palm-sized talking elephants. |
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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 19 May 2012 : 10:07:12
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On a related note; I took some time to type up the Vulturan I mentioned earlier. I was wrong about a few things regarding their origin; but I corrected a bit and it is now digital instead of "notebooked" like many things I have.
If you want to have a look:
http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16566
Personally, I've always liked "Smart" animals since I was a child reading about Narnia. |
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Thauranil
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Posted - 19 May 2012 : 12:09:22
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Originally posted by Thauranil
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Originally posted by Ayrik
I think humans (as a species) are already overly intuitive and emotionally expressive ... but sorely lacking in rational and objective forms of intelligence. Elephants with human-equivalent intellects might turn out to be brilliant mathematicians, logicians, and scientists, entirely unmoved by quaint human attachment towards (and dependency upon) emotionally-satisfying fabrications.
Good point.
But seriously elephants have an extremely strong family based society , so it is unlikely they will turn into rational scientists. Though that might be interesting in its own right.
You know this is a great example of a reduxio ad Aherium, do you mind if I borrow it?
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Sightless
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Posted - 19 May 2012 : 12:25:20
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Originally posted by Ayrik
You might want to check out Oliphants (2E MM); Baku, Maelephants, and Hollyphants (2E MC8: Outer Planes Appendix; MC Appendices: Planescape I, Planescape II); Kaluk and Shirokinukatsukami (2E MC6: Kara-Tur Appendix).
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Surprisingly, there seem to be no special elephant-creatures in Zakhara (2E MC13: Al-Qadim Appendix). I would expect Chult to be a fine place for anything of the sort to appear within the Realms, but my library has few materials covering the region. An elephantine counterpart to Giff spelljammers might also be an interesting possibility. Gods help us if some fool has introduced misbegotten strains of "elefey" or "were-loxo" creatures into the D&D ecosystem.
Why pick Oghma as a patron deity for sentient elephants? The Realms (at least, the pre-4E Realms) could and did easily accomodate any number of Beast Lords, Beast Cults, monstrous pantheons, and generally non-human deities. It's also always possible for interloper or immigrant powers to be introduced to the Realms along with the arrival of their followers from other worlds. A dormant or foreign elephantine power (an aspect of Indra, from the Vedic/Hindu pantheon, as just one possible example) might assert presence in the Realms, creating followers with a sort of transformation/blessing/curse resembling an elephanty version of minotaurs.
I might be mistaken, but I recall some canon mention of the Harpells possessing miniature and sentient versions of several (normally large and dumb) animals, including palm-sized talking elephants.
Yag-Kosha?
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Ayrik
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Posted - 19 May 2012 : 13:19:01
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| Yag-Kosha seems a little monstrous, but certainly possible. I think it unlikely anyone normal would want to roleplay one of his followers. |
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