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Jelennet
Learned Scribe
Russia
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 Posted - 07 Apr 2011 : 15:59:12
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In Baldur's gate 2 there was a tiefling named Haer'dalis. I've always wanted to know his ancestry. The guy doesn't seem to me very diabolic or devilish. And he has no horns or goat-like legs. He doesn't remind me a rakshasa.
Maybe he is a dascendant of an evil god? Then which one?
He has blue hair. Maybe he is a child of a night hag?
Any ideas?
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
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Posted - 07 Apr 2011 : 16:18:00
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| I imagined Haer'dalis as a sort of a plane-touched - that is, a person whose planar ancestor was several generations back. I think I used a twinkler (sp? from Fiend Folio, near maelut) to represent him, because I thought the FF art looked like him. |
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Eltheron
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 07 Apr 2011 : 17:00:07
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Unfortunately, it just says that he "has a fiend in his ancestry," not the type of fiend. Nor does it say which ancestor. Could be a mother or father, or could be further back. Might be a lot further back.
On the other hand, I guess the good thing about that is you can make his ancestral fiend any type of fiend you'd like.
That said, he is a Doomguard of Sigil, so that might give some clues as to his fiendish ancestry.
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Jelennet
Learned Scribe
Russia
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Posted - 07 Apr 2011 : 17:04:30
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What clues? Sadly, I don't know much about doomguards.
And maybe you can tell me number of the pages with twinkler and maelut? |
Edited by - Jelennet on 07 Apr 2011 17:19:18 |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Apr 2011 : 17:24:08
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| It has been a long time since I have played BG2, but wasn't his entire family tieflings? To me, that would indicate a society of tieflings that breeds a true "race" of tieflings (like the half-elves of the Yuirwood (sp?)). If that is the case, then he could have any number of fiendish forebearers. |
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Eltheron
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 07 Apr 2011 : 17:25:28
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I'm not really fluent with Planescape, so I don't really know. I just mention it because it might give some clues to those who know Planescape / Sigil.
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MrHedgehog
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 07 Apr 2011 : 19:59:09
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I seem to recall him having a Demon master so I always assumed he was descended from a Tanar'ri (and he was Chaotic Neutral and had a unique sword named "Chaos").
However, I don't recall any hints to specifically what sort of entity he was descended from. I think its possible he wouldn't necessarily even know himself! I don't think him being a Doomguard would give any hint to whether he's descended from a Tanar'ri or Baatezu because there are members of all alignments. Although the Doomguard sounds chaotic in the Factol Manifesto two of the four leaders are Lawful Neutral, one is neutral good, and one is chaotic neutral. |
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Jelennet
Learned Scribe
Russia
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Posted - 08 Apr 2011 : 07:57:05
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Originally posted by Zireael
I imagined Haer'dalis as a sort of a plane-touched - that is, a person whose planar ancestor was several generations back. I think I used a twinkler (sp? from Fiend Folio, near maelut) to represent him, because I thought the FF art looked like him.
Still haven't found a creature called twinkler in Fiend Folio (what page?). Maybe you wanted to say shyft or mechanatrix? They're both near maeluth. |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
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Posted - 08 Apr 2011 : 10:01:56
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| Or maybe it was shyft in the English version. Clearly not mechanatrix. (My FF is Polish, thus the confusion). |
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Jelennet
Learned Scribe
Russia
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Posted - 08 Apr 2011 : 12:37:10
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Originally posted by Zireael
Or maybe it was shyft in the English version. Clearly not mechanatrix. (My FF is Polish, thus the confusion).
I've got the English version. You mean: a tall slim one with long black hair with a short swort and a crossbow? Descended from the Ethereal plane? |
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sfdragon
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Posted - 08 Apr 2011 : 14:13:37
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he was a tiefling, and the troupe he was traveling iwth was also indeadtiefling.
however, even in iwd where we were able to play tielfings, they also had no tail and horns. |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
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Posted - 08 Apr 2011 : 16:45:55
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Originally posted by Jelennet
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Originally posted by Zireael
Or maybe it was shyft in the English version. Clearly not mechanatrix. (My FF is Polish, thus the confusion).
I've got the English version. You mean: a tall slim one with long black hair with a short swort and a crossbow? Descended from the Ethereal plane?
Yeah. That's it.
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@ sfdragon: The conclusion among the Planescape/BG fans is that the 'tiefling' was just a filler for various planetouched from Sigil. |
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Shemmy
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 08 Apr 2011 : 18:17:00
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| I would assume based on the details in the game, that he was a tiefling of mixed fiendish heritage. The tieflings of sigil are in essence a true-breeding population descended from multiple mortal races and virtually every type of fiend out there. Most of them aren't going to have a clue what sort of fiend(s) lurk in their bloodline. |
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Calmar
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Posted - 10 Apr 2011 : 00:12:08
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Originally posted by Shemmy
I would assume based on the details in the game, that he was a tiefling of mixed fiendish heritage. The tieflings of sigil are in essence a true-breeding population descended from multiple mortal races and virtually every type of fiend out there. Most of them aren't going to have a clue what sort of fiend(s) lurk in their bloodline.
Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if a great many Sigilians had no clue about who one or the other of their parents is, let alone their family tree. |
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