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Yriel
Acolyte
Malaysia
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 Posted - 01 Jan 2011 : 10:24:27
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Hello I’m a newbie so I’m not sure if this is the right place to post.
Okay, remember hearing a while back that Elaine Cunningham was writing a follow up to Evermeet: Island of Elves, if I recall it would continue Prince Lamruil journey in creating a new Elf kingdom on the mainland using the tree of souls. Anyone know if it’s true ? or what happen to it?.
I’m probably one the few who actually took a liking to Lamruil when I was reading Island of Elves and really would like to know what happen to the guy. Grand History only says that he when looking for his bride with the dude from Last Mythal.
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
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Posted - 01 Jan 2011 : 10:35:26
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I don't think anything is known about Lamruil's later fate.
There was a small snippet about Auseriel on Wizards' website, but that's all. |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 03 Jan 2011 : 14:42:37
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I don't have "The Grand History of the Realms" here with me, but if I recall correctly, there are earlier references of the settling of Auseriel, and of the atack of white dragons and disappearance of Maura after that.
I think Mrs. Cunningham intended to write more about it someday, before the changes of the 4th edition were released. With the new edition's changings in the setting and the new timeline, she would have - unfortunately - declared this story development as an improbable event. |
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Elfinblade
Senior Scribe
Norway
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Posted - 03 Jan 2011 : 16:38:05
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The fate of Lamruil, along with the other lost children of Amlaruil and Zaor, Halaster, the Harper Schism, the return of Bane, and Rowen Cormaeril are among the stories that i wanted to see elaborated the most, but never happened. Being an eternal optimist though, i sincerely hope we will someday learn more about all of them and their fates.
(yes, i am aware of Halasters demise in the adventure i cant remember the name of, i'ts just my oponion that he certainly deserved at least a novel, be it of his origins or of his demise.) |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 03 Jan 2011 : 18:24:10
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Originally posted by Elfinblade
(yes, i am aware of Halasters demise in the adventure i cant remember the name of, i'ts just my oponion that he certainly deserved at least a novel, be it of his origins or of his demise.)
I found that adventure painfully disappointing, particularly with the lack of info on what caused Hally's demise. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 03 Jan 2011 : 23:18:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Elfinblade
(yes, i am aware of Halasters demise in the adventure i cant remember the name of, i'ts just my oponion that he certainly deserved at least a novel, be it of his origins or of his demise.)
I found that adventure painfully disappointing, particularly with the lack of info on what caused Hally's demise.
And the module being referred to, was Expedition to Undermountain. |
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Elfinblade
Senior Scribe
Norway
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Posted - 04 Jan 2011 : 01:16:12
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Originally posted by The Sage
And the module being referred to, was Expedition to Undermountain.
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 04 Jan 2011 : 14:08:25
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Hi, Yriel. Welcome to Candlekeep!
Yes, you are correct that a follow-up story focusing on Prince Lamruil was in the works. This was a novella-length story entitled "Tree of Souls," and it would have dealt with Lamruil's attempts to found a kingdom in a remote valley in the far north--a story that would have owed a debt of inspiration to the James Hilton classic LOST HORIZONS. It was contracted for the anthology REALMS OF THE ELVES. Unfortunately, illness intervened. I lost a lot of writing time and asked to be released from the contract. The story was outlined in detail, but not written. Even if it had been completed, the NDA clause in any WotC contract prohibits me from discussing the details of any unpublished work.
But!
There will be more information about Lamruil in THE SERPENT'S DAUGHTER, which will be out in 2012.
And!
If time permits and the folks at WotC are interested, I would like to revisit "Tree of Souls," perhaps as free webfiction for the WotC website, published as a serial novella. Pathfinder Tales is doing this on the Paizo website, and I think it's a great way to get people involved in the fiction. Since I have not published a new novel in the Realms for several years, my work isn't familiar to many of the new readers, and it seems to me that long-time Realms fans might be interested in revisiting old friends. Good promotion all around.
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 04 Jan 2011 : 14:28:01
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| There is definately an interest in having you write more realms stories EC! |
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Elfinblade
Senior Scribe
Norway
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Posted - 04 Jan 2011 : 14:52:09
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
But!
There will be more information about Lamruil in THE SERPENT'S DAUGHTER, which will be out in 2012.
And!
If time permits and the folks at WotC are interested, I would like to revisit "Tree of Souls," perhaps as free webfiction for the WotC website, published as a serial novella.
Thats amazing news Elaine! I'm gonna have a hard time waiting for that novel. Crossing fingers and toes regarding that webfiction idea. Here's to hope! |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
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Posted - 04 Jan 2011 : 18:50:25
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Originally posted by Elfinblade
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
But!
There will be more information about Lamruil in THE SERPENT'S DAUGHTER, which will be out in 2012.
And!
If time permits and the folks at WotC are interested, I would like to revisit "Tree of Souls," perhaps as free webfiction for the WotC website, published as a serial novella.
Thats amazing news Elaine! I'm gonna have a hard time waiting for that novel. Crossing fingers and toes regarding that webfiction idea. Here's to hope!
I'll second that! Elaine, does Maura star in "Tree of Souls"? |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
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Posted - 04 Jan 2011 : 20:15:25
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Good to know Elanie.
2012 is gonna be a good year for Realms fiction. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 : 13:42:07
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Originally posted by Zireael
Elaine, does Maura star in "Tree of Souls"?
The direction taken by the Grand History is substantially different from what I'd had in mind, so at this point, I'm not sure WHAT "Tree of Souls" would be. I'd have to rethink pretty much the whole story line. But since Maura is alive during this time and since she was betrothed to Lamruil, it seems likely that she would be a part of the story in some way.
But we're jumping the gun here. When SERPENT'S DAUGHTER is in the can--revised, copyedited, and so on--I'll run this notion past the folks at WotC. |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 : 14:02:30
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ALL HAIL ELATH THE SERPENT C.(whose last name I can never spell), BUT FEAR HIS DAUGHTER EVEN MORE!!!!
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Yriel
Acolyte
Malaysia
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 : 14:28:02
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quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
Hi, Yriel. Welcome to Candlekeep!
Yes, you are correct that a follow-up story focusing on Prince Lamruil was in the works. This was a novella-length story entitled "Tree of Souls," and it would have dealt with Lamruil's attempts to found a kingdom in a remote valley in the far north--a story that would have owed a debt of inspiration to the James Hilton classic LOST HORIZONS. It was contracted for the anthology REALMS OF THE ELVES. Unfortunately, illness intervened. I lost a lot of writing time and asked to be released from the contract. The story was outlined in detail, but not written. Even if it had been completed, the NDA clause in any WotC contract prohibits me from discussing the details of any unpublished work.
But!
There will be more information about Lamruil in THE SERPENT'S DAUGHTER, which will be out in 2012.
Wow, thanks for the reply.
Awesome news indeed. I’ll be sure to pick The Serpent's Daughter when it hits the shelves.
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And!
If time permits and the folks at WotC are interested, I would like to revisit "Tree of Souls," perhaps as free webfiction for the WotC website, published as a serial novella. Pathfinder Tales is doing this on the Paizo website, and I think it's a great way to get people involved in the fiction. Since I have not published a new novel in the Realms for several years, my work isn't familiar to many of the new readers, and it seems to me that long-time Realms fans might be interested in revisiting old friends. Good promotion all around.
Can’t wait. Hopefully we can all “Hail to the king?, baby “
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1600 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jan 2011 : 19:01:13
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
There will be more information about Lamruil in THE SERPENT'S DAUGHTER, which will be out in 2012.
I just can't wait... And now it seems The Hobbit will indeed be released at the end of this year...
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
And!
If time permits and the folks at WotC are interested, I would like to revisit "Tree of Souls," perhaps as free webfiction for the WotC website, published as a serial novella. Pathfinder Tales is doing this on the Paizo website, and I think it's a great way to get people involved in the fiction. Since I have not published a new novel in the Realms for several years, my work isn't familiar to many of the new readers, and it seems to me that long-time Realms fans might be interested in revisiting old friends. Good promotion all around.
Great news indeed, Mrs. Cunningham! At least, a good idea and wonderful prospect, along with the Reclamation tying the loose ends of the Sword & Song series. Is it still a possibility you intend to discuss in the future?
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 : 21:13:25
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quote:
Originally posted by Barastir
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
There will be more information about Lamruil in THE SERPENT'S DAUGHTER, which will be out in 2012.
I just can't wait... And now it seems The Hobbit will indeed be released at the end of this year...
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
And!
If time permits and the folks at WotC are interested, I would like to revisit "Tree of Souls," perhaps as free webfiction for the WotC website, published as a serial novella. Pathfinder Tales is doing this on the Paizo website, and I think it's a great way to get people involved in the fiction. Since I have not published a new novel in the Realms for several years, my work isn't familiar to many of the new readers, and it seems to me that long-time Realms fans might be interested in revisiting old friends. Good promotion all around.
Great news indeed, Mrs. Cunningham! At least, a good idea and wonderful prospect, along with the Reclamation tying the loose ends of the Sword & Song series. Is it still a possibility you intend to discuss in the future?
Hmm. I'd have to say it's a possibility, but only in the "anything's possible" sense. |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1600 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jan 2011 : 17:47:35
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quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
Hmm. I'd have to say it's a possibility, but only in the "anything's possible" sense.
Well, at least some of those loose ends will be answered in The Serpent's Daughter, am I right? |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
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Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
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(by Ed Greenwood) |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 07 Jan 2011 : 19:01:14
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quote:
Originally posted by Barastir
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
Hmm. I'd have to say it's a possibility, but only in the "anything's possible" sense.
Well, at least some of those loose ends will be answered in The Serpent's Daughter, am I right?
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 08 Jan 2011 : 12:53:25
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
I too am waiting for said loose ends tied.....
Lest this discussion foster expectations destined to remain unmet, I should probably say that The Serpent's Daughter is NOT the conclusion to the Songs & Swords series. It's a standalone novel, and as such, it does not address all of the unresolved story threads from S&S or Evermeet. A few questions are answered, yes, but a few more are raised. |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1600 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jan 2011 : 06:25:17
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
(...) The Serpent's Daughter is NOT the conclusion to the Songs & Swords series. It's a standalone novel, and as such, it does not address all of the unresolved story threads from S&S or Evermeet. A few questions are answered, yes, but a few more are raised.
And we're sure it will be a great novel, Mrs. Cunningham. Of course your fans (and fans of Danilo/Arilyn and Elaith) want to see some of those old questions solved/revealed, but we all must be aware that this is the beginning of a new series, with Azariah as the main character.
That's why I asked you if there were plans of telling those stories AFTER the release of The Serpent's Daughter, just like you mentioned could happen with The Tree of Souls, and maybe in another format. And just as you told us, it's "not impossible"...
But now there's another story to tell, and I'm quite sure soon people will want the answers to the loose ties of Azariah's story! |
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Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
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(by Ed Greenwood) |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 09 Jan 2011 : 14:40:10
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Originally posted by Barastir
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
(...) The Serpent's Daughter is NOT the conclusion to the Songs & Swords series. It's a standalone novel, and as such, it does not address all of the unresolved story threads from S&S or Evermeet. A few questions are answered, yes, but a few more are raised.
And we're sure it will be a great novel, Mrs. Cunningham. Of course your fans (and fans of Danilo/Arilyn and Elaith) want to see some of those old questions solved/revealed, but we all must be aware that this is the beginning of a new series, with Azariah as the main character.
That's why I asked you if there were plans of telling those stories AFTER the release of The Serpent's Daughter, just like you mentioned could happen with The Tree of Souls, and maybe in another format. And just as you told us, it's "not impossible"...
But now there's another story to tell, and I'm quite sure soon people will want the answers to the loose ties of Azariah's story!
Yikes. It would seem that I misspoke. THE SERPENT'S DAUGHTER is a stand-alone novel, not the beginning of a new series. I can see how the mention of untied story threads would give that impression.
Without going into detail, the "loose threads" I spoke of in TSD involve the fate of familiar characters. Some of those stories are resolved, some are advanced but not resolved. Those advances are the new loose threads in TSD. There are no cliff-hangers or other obvious bids for a sequel. |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 09 Jan 2011 : 19:47:35
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quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
It would seem that I misspoke. THE SERPENT'S DAUGHTER is a stand-alone novel, not the beginning of a new series. I can see how the mention of untied story threads would give that impression. (...)There are no cliff-hangers or other obvious bids for a sequel.
Well, I really had the impression that it would be a stand-alone novel, but with new loose ties that could allow future possibilities... By the way, was Elfshadow written initially as a stand-alone novel, or the idea of a series was there from the very beggining? |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
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Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
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(by Ed Greenwood) |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 09 Jan 2011 : 23:13:54
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quote:
Originally posted by Barastir
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
It would seem that I misspoke. THE SERPENT'S DAUGHTER is a stand-alone novel, not the beginning of a new series. I can see how the mention of untied story threads would give that impression. (...)There are no cliff-hangers or other obvious bids for a sequel.
Well, I really had the impression that it would be a stand-alone novel, but with new loose ties that could allow future possibilities... By the way, was Elfshadow written initially as a stand-alone novel, or the idea of a series was there from the very beggining?
It was written as a stand-alone novel. That was the original intention for the Harper series. |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 12 Jan 2011 : 09:50:39
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quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
(About Elfshadow)
It was written as a stand-alone novel. That was the original intention for the Harper series.
And yet, it was developed in a wonderful series. I see TSD is a stand-alone novel, but I'm sure that, potentially, sequels are entirely possible. Of course I haven't seen much of the new novel, but based on your previous work, Mrs. Cunningham, there is a good chance of it being the first of a new set of books. |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood) |
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Sith_Lord_Drizzt
Seeker
Canada
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Posted - 14 Apr 2011 : 21:37:48
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I was finally able to get my hands on "Evermeet: Island of the Elves" and I was blown away! Definitely one of the best, if not the best, Realms novel that I've read!
I'm sure you've heard this many times Elaine but kudos to you! This was an absolutely fantastic novel!
One of my favorite characters was Lamruil Moonflower. I know that he's off with Araevin Teshurr searching for Maura, but have there been any other novels or short stories written about him? I'd really like to know what's become of him and his new Kingdom. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 14 Apr 2011 : 22:42:45
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Originally posted by Sith_Lord_Drizzt
I was finally able to get my hands on "Evermeet: Island of the Elves" and I was blown away! Definitely one of the best, if not the best, Realms novel that I've read!
I'm sure you've heard this many times Elaine but kudos to you! This was an absolutely fantastic novel!
One of my favorite characters was Lamruil Moonflower. I know that he's off with Araevin Teshurr searching for Maura, but have there been any other novels or short stories written about him? I'd really like to know what's become of him and his new Kingdom.
Thanks for the kind word, SLD. I'm delighted to hear that you enjoyed Danilo's first novel. I try not to resent, overmuch, the fact that he's a better writer than I am. 
To the best of my knowledge, there is nothing more written of Lamruil. He is mentioned, however, in the upcoming (2012) novel The Serpent's Daughter. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 20 Apr 2011 : 13:11:22
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One does what one can. :)
Seriously, though, I have a hard time figuring out what type and frequency of self-promotion is acceptable.
A lot of author self-promotion gives me a bad case of the twitching heebie-jeebies. I cringed yesterday when I read an author's description of a WIP as "crazy, cool, and sexy!" Or someone who points out on facebook that she just posted "a wonderful little excerpt" of her upcoming book. Or writers who gush, "I just KNOW you'll love it!" I still feel stunned when I recall a fantasy writer's blog assertion that he seldom reads fantasy because most fantasy writers, unlike him, were not trained to think logically. (Especially when he followed this pronouncement with an excerpt that contained at least three glaring examples of plot logic....) It strikes me as unseemly for people to praise themselves in this manner. But, obviously, YMMV.
I know that self-promotion is vital these days. And for all I know, the effusive self-praise approach might be effective. But to me, self-praising authors bring to mind a four-year-old princess wannabe twirling in her sparkly pink tu-tu and fairy wings and while shrilling, "Lookit me! Lookit me!"
Since I have to live with myself--and because pink sparkles is NOT a good look for me--I limit self-promotion to announcements of upcoming work, excerpts, related short fiction, and the occasional contest.
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
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Posted - 20 Apr 2011 : 16:28:31
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quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
I know that self-promotion is vital these days. And for all I know, the effusive self-praise approach might be effective. But to me, self-praising authors bring to mind a four-year-old princess wannabe twirling in her sparkly pink tu-tu and fairy wings and while shrilling, "Lookit me! Lookit me!"
Since I have to live with myself--and because pink sparkles is NOT a good look for me--I limit self-promotion to announcements of upcoming work, excerpts, related short fiction, and the occasional contest.
And that's a good image and a good idea for you, Elaine... |
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