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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 11 Feb 2011 :  18:57:15  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded OneOh, yes; I have VERY extensive unpublished maps of that area of the Underdark, both just below the surface and a layer deeper. Yes, there are indeed unpublished locales of note. However, both maps and locales are NDA right now. Sorry.



Hi again. Just wondering, are all unpublished maps of the realms NDA or are some free to share??
Again, thanks!



I'd imagine it depends on who holds them. Ed's own maps, that have never left his house, are prolly not covered by NDA. Ones he's sent to WotC/TSR, on the other hand, would remain covered by NDA.

Keep in mind, WotC understands that it costs them nothing to leave an NDA in place.

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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded OneOh, yes; I have VERY extensive unpublished maps of that area of the Underdark, both just below the surface and a layer deeper. Yes, there are indeed unpublished locales of note. However, both maps and locales are NDA right now. Sorry.



Hi again. Just wondering, are all unpublished maps of the realms NDA or are some free to share??
Again, thanks!



I'd imagine it depends on who holds them. Ed's own maps, that have never left his house, are prolly not covered by NDA. Ones he's sent to WotC/TSR, on the other hand, would remain covered by NDA.

Keep in mind, WotC understands that it costs them nothing to leave an NDA in place.



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Ayrik
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KotG — I can't speak for Larloch, but I'm quite sure Szass Tam would be offended by being an "it" instead of a "he".

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The Sage
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Posted - 12 Feb 2011 :  00:36:36  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

This brings another question to me then (from Azuth's sig.):

Who was the final Magister, and what happened to him/her during the spellplague?

(something tells me this is NDA lol - would make for a nice campaign arc for a PC to become the last Magister....hmmm Paragon Path idea here...)

Given the revelations about Mystra's fate in Elminster Must Die, I suspect this will indeed prove to be NDA'd.

Though, I'd also appreciate any info could share on this. And, maybe, how Talatha Vaerovree might have fared during the period.

Of course, this is assuming the Great Bearded One has worked on these tidbits.

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Blueblade
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Posted - 12 Feb 2011 :  01:54:08  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
createvmind, I know that Curst (Ed's creation, first appeared in issue 30 of "The Dragon," and were undead then, not a template or any of the later edition tweakings) feel pain, because it specifically says so in their writeups.
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createvmind
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Posted - 12 Feb 2011 :  06:11:02  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Thanks Blue,
I am very curious about this question, my thought is some think the feel pain due to their brains remembering pain, very curious indeed.

Want to know if my unread can shout " Banes balls that hurt, get him off me somebody!"

Awaiting reply from Creator.
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Bahgtru
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Posted - 12 Feb 2011 :  13:52:04  Show Profile  Visit Bahgtru's Homepage Send Bahgtru a Private Message
Hello Ed. I usually check every year or two so I thought I would ask and see if Madeiron Sunderstone is still covered by an NDA. I was still hoping to get some more of his background story and how he came to be Piergeron's bodyguard and anything else you could share. Thank you in advance.
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Nicolai Withander
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Posted - 12 Feb 2011 :  18:43:13  Show Profile Send Nicolai Withander a Private Message
Hello ED and THO... This might be a qeustion someone else could answer for me but here goes!

Was wondering the other day, what kind of metal would be used by the elves of old for their most precious jewelry? Im thinking back in the Crown Wars days and ofc also during the high Myth Drannor?

As for jewelry im thinking tiaras, necklases and the like.

Also any information about how precious elven jewelry would look like I would be most glad!


Thanks again for all the answers
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 12 Feb 2011 :  18:50:51  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all. Nicolai, your question has been sent to Ed for his eventual lore-answer, but I can tell you one important fact about elven jewelry (because this has been discussed before, and Ed has provided much elven lore to the Realms and to the wider D&D game [and Pathfinder] over the years): almost ALL elven finery, sculpture, and even architecture is about smooth, flowing lines, like the roots of living trees, the way wind and water sculpt rock and beach sand, etc.
So almost all elven gems are cabochon-cut (smooth and rounded rather than faceted), and the bands and circlets of rings, tiaras, etc. will have flowing, rounded, smooth finishes rather than dagged points, squared corners, sharp edges, etc.
love,
THO

Edited by - The Hooded One on 12 Feb 2011 18:51:17
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Nicolai Withander
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Posted - 12 Feb 2011 :  19:05:28  Show Profile Send Nicolai Withander a Private Message
Thats amazing... thanks alot.

Ill start looking for this lore, and wait in antizipation for a eventual answer from him!

Again thx

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braunusvald
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Posted - 12 Feb 2011 :  20:32:29  Show Profile  Visit braunusvald's Homepage Send braunusvald a Private Message
Hello candlekeep, and all who keep these halls. Question for Master Greenwood concerning Ioun stones in the forgotten realms pre-spellplague.

Several articals have been written about the source of these items,
a) crafted by arcane caster.
b) found on the para-elemental plane of minerals and thier powers brought forth by carving and sculpting.

I was wondering which origin he viewed as the source of this form of magic for Faerun

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Ayrik
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An in-Realms explanation is given in Arcane Ages: Netheril, which describes the brilliant arcanist Congenio Ioun inventing Ioun Stones (originally known as Congenio's Pebbles) and devising at least 30 variants during his life.

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createvmind
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Posted - 12 Feb 2011 :  23:30:27  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Hello,

Ed can you give us any of the slang terms for various types of afflictions throughout the ages? Let's say an adventurer back in days of Netheril had a journal that was discovered in 1300's and he is describing how member of his group was afflicted with Filth fever, what slayings did you come up with?

Were the current names given Filth fever, Devil's chills and Slimy doom created by adventurers in the first place?

What do healer's call these afflictions amongst each other and is it any different than what arcanist call afflictions. Basically could all three groups be in same room taalking about same affliction and all have different names for it or better yet not know what the other group is atlking about unless the symptoms are describe clearly?
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wakaman
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Posted - 12 Feb 2011 :  23:34:19  Show Profile  Visit wakaman's Homepage Send wakaman a Private Message
Hi there!

I just wanted to 'bump' my mythallar question which was posted about a month ago (p4).



I was also hoping to inquire about the begging of creation of FR and the concept of 'raw magic' that the Weave is barrier to:

A. Were Shar and Selune the most ancient and original gods apart for Ao? what about gods such as The World Serpent, of which there is very little mention: where/how did it appear in the cosmos?

B. I understand that creation was made possible through the 'raw' stuff of the Astral Sea. Is it possible that this dangerous and volatile 'raw stuff' is the same stuff that Mystra's and Shar's Weave is a conduit to? (the explicit mention in Magic of Faerun is to 'raw magic'). This would mean that all beings, knowingly or unknowingly, draw on the stuff of creation when casting spells.

C. Shadow magic: In Tome of Magic, there is a class called the Shadowcaster. I was wondering how this Shadowcaster might fit in with FR: it honestly doesn't sound like it fits in with either Mystra's or Shar's Weave, and in fact suggests that they draw upon the more primordial energies that formed the universe directly. This distinction is important in terms of determining what happens in dead magic zones. Or perhaps they draw on the shadowplane directly?

D. Are planar powers and energies independent of Weave and Shadow Weave, and can these be tapped by PCs/NPCs?

Thank you!

wakaman.

Edited to pose a question.

Edited by - wakaman on 12 Feb 2011 23:49:26
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Azuth
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Posted - 13 Feb 2011 :  00:35:55  Show Profile  Visit Azuth's Homepage Send Azuth a Private Message
My next questions for Ed:

In Elminster in Hell it's made clear that Elminster will be cut off from the Weave and Mystra when he seals the portal between the two planes (Chapter 1 or prologue, I believe). Does this mean that all spellcasters are somewhat impotent beyond Faerūn? I just wonder how this works with the demiplane of Shadows (Malaugrym), et cetera. Conversely, would a Chosen or worshipper of Mystra have extra potency in her home in Nirvana?

It seems that Cynosure is an area that is connected to the Weave yet separate from the other planes. I just assume that there's some tendril of the Weave that reaches to it as Mystra has power there. It is implied in Crucible and Prince of Lies that Mystra can not only cut off other dieties power from the Weave, but that they maintain their powers on other planes. I'm just trying to reconcile this (if that's possible) with Elmister losing his powers when "cut off" from Faerūn. Is this because he's not a diety? Or linked to his status as a Chosen, perhaps? I know that non-Ed authors draw upon their own interpretations of how things work, but insight from Ed is always most appreciated.

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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by wakaman

Hi there!

I just wanted to 'bump' my mythallar question which was posted about a month ago (p4).



I was also hoping to inquire about the begging of creation of FR and the concept of 'raw magic' that the Weave is barrier to:

A. Were Shar and Selune the most ancient and original gods apart for Ao? what about gods such as The World Serpent, of which there is very little mention: where/how did it appear in the cosmos?

B. I understand that creation was made possible through the 'raw' stuff of the Astral Sea. Is it possible that this dangerous and volatile 'raw stuff' is the same stuff that Mystra's and Shar's Weave is a conduit to? (the explicit mention in Magic of Faerun is to 'raw magic'). This would mean that all beings, knowingly or unknowingly, draw on the stuff of creation when casting spells.

C. Shadow magic: In Tome of Magic, there is a class called the Shadowcaster. I was wondering how this Shadowcaster might fit in with FR: it honestly doesn't sound like it fits in with either Mystra's or Shar's Weave, and in fact suggests that they draw upon the more primordial energies that formed the universe directly. This distinction is important in terms of determining what happens in dead magic zones. Or perhaps they draw on the shadowplane directly?

D. Are planar powers and energies independent of Weave and Shadow Weave, and can these be tapped by PCs/NPCs?

Thank you!

wakaman.

Edited to pose a question.



Not really necessary to "bump", point out attention to or rephrase questions waiting on an answer. It really won't help it be answered sooner and by further cluttering this scroll may in fact cause it to take longer.

I have seen questions answered in mere moments or as long as years.....it all depends on what Ed is working on, what's in the forefront off his thoughts and what he can get to quickly.

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Edited by - The Red Walker on 13 Feb 2011 00:41:34
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The Sage
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Indeed.

Wakaman, the Red Walker has it right. Ed's technique of answering questions doesn't follow any kind of specific pattern. Nor does he forget previously asked questions from the past few days, to the past few years. The ever-vigilant Lady Herald of Realmslore -- The Hooded One -- provides a listing of questions asked and [undoubtedly] questions answered. So please, remain patient. Both Ed and the Lady Herald will get to your query in time.

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Markustay
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@Azuth - Elminster has MUCH power thanks to Mystra (himself being a Chosen), ergo quite a bit of his power (probably the majority of it) is dependent upon her and her Weave.

HOWEVER, we know from D&D rules - mostly 2e when there were no less then 3 world-spanning super-settings (RL, SJ, & PS) - that mages can cast spells outside of their own sphere, despite the fact that each sphere has its own set of arcane rules in-place (very similar to the weave, in fact). So if one were to use the rules from Planescape, then a Mage traveling from Toril to Hell should have no discernible loss of power (not precisely true, but close enough for this argument).

But Elminster is a chosen, and MUCH of his power is dependent upon the Weave and his connection to it, the most important of which (in terms of that novel) is the healing properties of silver Fire, which he could not call upon.

Note that this limitation is NOT universal - some aspect of the Weave must be reachable from almost any prime world (Elminster was battling dragons - easily - on the Saurial homeworld in another novel). There are some Spelljammer rules we can fall back onto here - when in other spheres deities often extend a courtesy to the faithful of other like-minded deities, and since we know that most prime worlds also have their own interpretation of the Weave (the body of rules governing magic within that sphere), it makes some sense that other deities of magic give special attention to Mystra's chosen when present (it is canon, BTW, that Mystra is friends with Wee Jas of Greyhawk, so we even have a precedent), and would expect the same courtesy in return.

BUT a plane is NOT a prime world, and more-over Hell is the domain of Asmodeus, and a deity-level power holds COMPLETE sway within their personal domain (meaning Elminster is 'cut-off' from his normal 'bonuses'). Had Elminster been in perfect health, he still would have been able to make a good showing of himself, but having been completely drained (and then fiend-maimed) and not having any healing abilities (normally afforded him), he was in dire straights in that story. Note that the Simbul was still incredibly mighty when she stormed hell itself for her man, but without her own Chosen resources she too was soon drained of her reserves. It was Mystra's power El was missing there, NOT his own mortal-based magic.

And sorry for answering this if I am completely off-base. I am sure THO will be along shortly to say 'Aye' or 'Nay'.

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Edited by - Markustay on 13 Feb 2011 03:50:34
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Azuth
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Whether you're right or not, your thoughts go along with what I was thinking. In all honesty, I'm still trying to ascertain how one would destroy the Weave, honestly. Not even a god (save perhaps Ao) could survive the unleashed power of its total destruction, and I'm still somewhat confused as to how any deities in Faerūn have power without the Weave. I've rambled on about this before, and I'm pretty sure it will remain NDA for the foreseeable future, but WoTC aren't known for smart decisions...


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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

@Azuth - Elminster has MUCH power thanks to Mystra (himself being a Chosen), ergo quite a bit of his power (probably the majority of it) is dependent upon her and her Weave.

HOWEVER, we know from D&D rules - mostly 2e when there were no less then 3 world-spanning super-settings (RL, SJ, & PS) - that mages can cast spells outside of their own sphere, despite the fact that each sphere has its own set of arcane rules in-place (very similar to the weave, in fact). So if one were to use the rules from Planescape, then a Mage traveling from Toril to Hell should have no discernible loss of power (not precisely true, but close enough for this argument).

But Elminster is a chosen, and MUCH of his power is dependent upon the Weave and his connection to it, the most important of which (in terms of that novel) is the healing properties of silver Fire, which he could not call upon.

Note that this limitation is NOT universal - some aspect of the Weave must be reachable from almost any prime world (Elminster was battling dragons - easily - on the Saurial homeworld in another novel). There are some Spelljammer rules we can fall back onto here - when in other spheres deities often extend a courtesy to the faithful of other like-minded deities, and since we know that most prime worlds also have their own interpretation of the Weave (the body of rules governing magic within that sphere), it makes some sense that other deities of magic give special attention to Mystra's chosen when present (it is canon, BTW, that Mystra is friends with Wee Jas of Greyhawk, so we even have a precedent), and would expect the same courtesy in return.

BUT a plane is NOT a prime world, and more-over Hell is the domain of Asmodeus, and a deity-level power holds COMPLETE sway within their personal domain (meaning Elminster is 'cut-off' from his normal 'bonuses'). Had Elminster been in perfect health, he still would have been able to make a good showing of himself, but having been completely drained (and then fiend-maimed) and not having any healing abilities (normally afforded him), he was in dire straights in that story. Note that the Simbul was still incredibly mighty when she stormed hell itself for her man, but without her own Chosen resources she too was soon drained of her reserves. It was Mystra's power El was missing there, NOT his own mortal-based magic.

And sorry for answering this if I am completely off-base. I am sure THO will be along shortly to say 'Aye' or 'Nay'.


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Aysen
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Hi Ed, LHO, and fellow scribes!

Regarding Markustay's comment about Elminster being unable to heal himself with silver fire while in Hell, I thought that Elminster could heal himself, but only did so in the most discreet way to avoid showing Nergal anything about his silver fire powers. It seems that Elminster was drawing on his personal reserve of silver fire, and would not be able to replenish himself as he normally could have, whilst imprisoned in Hell. Much of his silver fire reserve seemed devoted to mind-shielding himself and misdirecting Nergal who was continually riding his thoughts, and possibly even reaching out to others in Faerun via the "shared memories" that the reader sees.

Also, a cheerful thank-you to Markustay, for getting my mind working on the above comment, which led to my question for Ed below:

Have the Chosen of Mystra actively experimented on the silver fire that they are imbued with, such that each Chosen has one or more "special tricks" accomplished with silver fire that is pretty unique to them? Didn't Elminster draw on the silver fire to make a "spellfire campfire" for him and Storm? Or in Shadows of Doom, did Elminster draw on the silver fire to effect a "tenser's transformation" to help Sharantyr against some Zhents?
Similarly, in Stories of the Seven Sisters, it seemed that Dove used her silver fire and blood to enchant duplicates of magical blades from one single blade. It also appears that the Simbul knows how to ahem, "forcefully borrow" other Chosen's silver fire, doing so at the end of Elminster in Hell and the short story "Tears so White". Ed, I'd love to know if and how the other Chosen "twist" the silver fire, particularly Storm, Alvaerele, and Sammaster (before he fell).

Thanks Ed!
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wakaman
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My apologies.

I was not aware of this fact and was merely trying to be helpful: I know I like to reminded of things.

I will not do so again, considering this new information.

Thank you,

wakaman.
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createvmind
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Elminster used his fire a number of times and it appears his fire activated in his defense a few times he wasn't consciously using it as well while in Hell.

My other thought process is there are fail safes put in place so to make it very difficult for other beings to siphon the silver fire from a Chosen while on other planes.
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Zireael
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I was hoping Ed could provide some info about the Selzairs (Queen Filfaeril's parents, siblings or anything else)...?

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quote:
Originally posted by Azuth
Final question - egads, three! - for Ed. There is a character and a deity named Torm. Would it be common practice to name your child after a diety, and are there implications if you do? I can't imagine many people seeking to name their child "Loviatar" if that were the case, despite the fact that phonetically, it's a pleasant sound.

Thanks for the triple-header.

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This has been asked and answered in various variations before. 2004 and 2008 i'm sure about. I thought there was also one in 2009/2010 timeframe but could not find it with a quick search.
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Markustay
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Elminster has other... assets... not normally encountered in either an archmage or a Chosen. There is some inkling of this by his ability to send 'memories' to others while in Hell. That had nothing to do with Mystra or magic, I'm thinking. He was calling upon far older (and oft-forgotten) abilities. Also, the very nature of his wounds would not allow him to concentrate enough to establish a better connection (since his 'other abilities' rely heavily upon willpower). It was the very precise nature of what happened to him that left him in the predicament - he was completely drained of both magic and Silver Fire (closing the rift), AND physically abused to a point most normal humans would have been driven completely insane by the pain.

Each Chosen also carries with them a small bit of Mystra's power, so that they CAN self-replenish themselves if need be, which is what eventually started happening there. I think the real secret Elminster was trying to keep is that each of Mystra's chosen is semi-divine, and THAT is the secret of Silver fire.

BTW, that fiend wasn't all that far from the truth the whole time, if you pay close attention to what memories kept stirring up. Elminster and Harry Potter aren't all that different, at the end of the day.

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