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Fellfire
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Posted - 24 Nov 2010 :  21:55:17  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I found a great old 2e kit. The Caradhaker, Dwarven Illithid Hunters. Anybody have any interest in seeing a 3.5 conversion for this? Mod, am I allowed to do that here? It will involve a lot of cut n paste of old materiel.

Misanthorpe

Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.

"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises

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Edited by - Fellfire on 24 Nov 2010 22:00:09

Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 24 Nov 2010 :  22:21:25  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Try to avoid cutting and pasting too much copyrighted info (paraphrasing is good). If you do have to copy copyrighted info, make sure you cite source and page numbers.

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Fellfire
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Posted - 24 Nov 2010 :  22:24:43  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Wooly, if anybody has any interest i will paraphrase away and cite my sources, if not I'll keep it in my private files.

Misanthorpe

Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.

"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises

Green Dragonscale Dice Bag by Crystalsidyll - check it out

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Ayrik
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Posted - 24 Nov 2010 :  23:05:49  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This Caradhaker kit sounds most interesting. Which 2E book, Fellfire?

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The Sage
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Posted - 24 Nov 2010 :  23:36:39  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Indeed. I'll second Arik's query. I don't actually recall where it's from. Please enlighten me.

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Fellfire
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Posted - 24 Nov 2010 :  23:58:52  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It originally appeared in Dragon Magazine #245 written by Bruce Cordell. I don't think it showed up elsewhere. This one is too good to languish, forgotten, on a dusty shelf. The idea of a dwarven monastery somewhere in the Middledark is taking shape in my mind. I own neither Bruce Cordell nor Dragon Magazine.

Misanthorpe

Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.

"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises

Green Dragonscale Dice Bag by Crystalsidyll - check it out


Edited by - Fellfire on 25 Nov 2010 00:15:04
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Ayrik
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 :  00:19:53  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
lol, I'm not challenging your (or Bruce's, or Dragon's) copyright, Fellfire. Adapting or evolving old lore into new is both perfectly fine and strongly encouraged - legal considerations only become an issue when you plan to publish and profit from the material (and you must then be very careful to respect the ownership of intellectual properties). Every DM and player (and Candlekeep scribe) can offer contributions which, in some small way, add Realmslore which might better the setting for all. You can always read through various Wizbro licensing declarations if you're concerned.

I just couldn't recall ever reading about this kit or anything like it. Mind Flayers are rather menacing opponents, very interesting to see a group dedicated to combating them (and the tools/approaches they'd use).

Sadly, I do not own a copy of this Dragon writing.

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Edited by - Ayrik on 25 Nov 2010 00:27:48
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Brimstone
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 :  00:23:12  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The 3E XPH had a prestige class called the Illithid Slayer, or Slayer in the SRD. Alot of the backstory is the same...

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Fellfire
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 :  01:12:02  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Brimstone, they did indeed reprint it to a limited extent in the XPH, saves me a little bit of work. I would encourage anybody interested to read the original article. It is much more in-depth, brilliant even

Misanthorpe

Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.

"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises

Green Dragonscale Dice Bag by Crystalsidyll - check it out


Edited by - Fellfire on 25 Nov 2010 01:15:28
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