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BlackAce
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Posted - 05 Apr 2011 :  03:13:56  Show Profile Send BlackAce a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Opinions should be left to fans and jerks (the latter of which are professionally referred to as 'critics'), and not freelance authors who have to juggle so many other's feelings in a shared setting.




Hey! I'm a jerk and I'm insulted you've just equated me with a critic.

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Markustay
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LMAO.

Okay... as one fellow jerk to another - critics are epic-level jerks. 'Critic' is actually a choice on the jerk Class epic tier in 4e (along with 'politician' and 'paparazzi').

Hows that?

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Azuth
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Posted - 05 Apr 2011 :  04:59:14  Show Profile  Visit Azuth's Homepage Send Azuth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

LMAO.

Okay... as one fellow jerk to another - critics are epic-level jerks. 'Critic' is actually a choice on the jerk Class epic tier in 4e (along with 'politician' and 'paparazzi').

Hows that?



Given the thread, shouldn't we ask Elaine that question?

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Posted - 05 Apr 2011 :  05:08:44  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

LMAO.

Okay... as one fellow jerk to another - critics are epic-level jerks. 'Critic' is actually a choice on the jerk Class epic tier in 4e (along with 'politician' and 'paparazzi').

Hows that?



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sfdragon
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Posted - 05 Apr 2011 :  05:09:33  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

LMAO.

Okay... as one fellow jerk to another - critics are epic-level jerks. 'Critic' is actually a choice on the jerk Class epic tier in 4e (along with 'politician' and 'paparazzi').

Hows that?



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did you have anr recen lireal beanre novel plams for 4e elaine?

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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 05 Apr 2011 :  06:13:53  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon
did you have anr recen lireal beanre novel plams for 4e elaine?



No plans for a Liriel novel at this time. The only FR project is THE SERPENT'S DAUGHTER.
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sfdragon
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Posted - 05 Apr 2011 :  06:27:47  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
will it partake in the knowledge of what happened to the Serpent's drinking establishment and will any drinking take place there if its still around....

( was going to ask if his fate was going to be told on how he moved on to arvandor.... but..... I dont wannt to, even if he would still likely be alive for being eladrin/moon elf)

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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 05 Apr 2011 :  10:59:04  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon

will it partake in the knowledge of what happened to the Serpent's drinking establishment and will any drinking take place there if its still around....

( was going to ask if his fate was going to be told on how he moved on to arvandor.... but..... I dont wannt to, even if he would still likely be alive for being eladrin/moon elf)



Can't discuss Elaith's fate, sorry. I'm not really sure what you're asking in the first paragraph. Elaith had several "drinking establishments" in Waterdeep. I would assume some still do business in current Realms time.
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BlackAce
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Apr 2011 :  18:00:23  Show Profile Send BlackAce a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

LMAO.

Okay... as one fellow jerk to another - critics are epic-level jerks. 'Critic' is actually a choice on the jerk Class epic tier in 4e (along with 'politician' and 'paparazzi').

Hows that?



It'll do.


While I'm here, Elaine, didn't you mention plans for a historical novel centered around the Stewarts?

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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 05 Apr 2011 :  18:17:07  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BlackAce
While I'm here, Elaine, didn't you mention plans for a historical novel centered around the Stewarts?



I did, yes. That's currently on hold.
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Hawkins
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Posted - 05 Apr 2011 :  18:34:46  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

quote:
Originally posted by BlackAce
While I'm here, Elaine, didn't you mention plans for a historical novel centered around the Stewarts?
I did, yes. That's currently on hold.
That sounds tantalising. I hope it does not get stuck in the "on hold" position.

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BlackAce
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Posted - 05 Apr 2011 :  18:38:36  Show Profile Send BlackAce a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh that's a shame. I must admit, I've been half looking forward to it. Please let us know it if ever gets moving again.

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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 06 Apr 2011 :  13:25:26  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BlackAce

Oh that's a shame. I must admit, I've been half looking forward to it. Please let us know it if ever gets moving again.



I will, and thanks for asking.

The historical mystery project made sense for a lot of reasons, but since my audience (all 17 of you....) are fantasy readers, it made more sense to concentrate on creating a fantasy setting of my own. That's the next project. More info coming soon.
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Hawkins
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Posted - 06 Apr 2011 :  15:25:59  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm of Scottish descent (Wallace for those who wish to know) as well as a fan of yours, so all you had to say was "Stewart" and "historical fiction" and I was interested. Though, I must say that I am immensely interested in the fantasy setting you are developing as well.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 06 Apr 2011 :  18:31:29  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

quote:
Originally posted by BlackAce

Oh that's a shame. I must admit, I've been half looking forward to it. Please let us know it if ever gets moving again.



I will, and thanks for asking.

The historical mystery project made sense for a lot of reasons, but since my audience (all 17 of you....) are fantasy readers, it made more sense to concentrate on creating a fantasy setting of my own. That's the next project. More info coming soon.



Oooh, my interest is officially piqued!

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Barastir
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Posted - 06 Apr 2011 :  18:42:12  Show Profile  Click to see Barastir's MSN Messenger address Send Barastir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Third in the line of 17!!!

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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

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Posted - 06 Apr 2011 :  20:41:53  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Because you un-subscribed from the other thread, I am going to quote myself from there, in regards to the novella you mentioned concerning NOT planting the Tree of Souls.
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

I think Elaine should still write that story, albeit an abbreviated version of it, and have it a Dragon article. That's the kinds of things I want to see - I want explanations when things 'get weird'. On the other hand, a full book about what happened (the events in GHotR are tantalizing) would be very cool, and still VERY do-able. If a novel were written about Lamruil, he could have 'flash-backs' (the way Ed does with Elminster, or Steven did with the Khelben novels) of those times a century ago - it could easily tie into a current (post-plague) story wherein Lamruil is still searching for his 'lost love'.

Just give him Danillo as part of his 'epic party' (a'la Jason and the Argonaughts), and maybe a couple of other 'big names' from the past, and it would be pure win.
What about it?

Doesn't that sound 'uber'? There are a huge number of secondary characters in The Realms you could use for such an 'epic quest'. In fact, I'm thinking 5-part series with different authors, all of whom feature one of their 'pet' characters (I would love for RAS to include Kane, or maybe Artemis). Think about it - they could travel all over the Realms, looking for clues, and old and new fans alike would get to see parts of the new world detailed - its really win-win, IMHO. A real classic 'last hurrah' for some old characters, in the true tradition of D&D adventuring.
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

quote:
Originally posted by BlackAce

Oh that's a shame. I must admit, I've been half looking forward to it. Please let us know it if ever gets moving again.



I will, and thanks for asking.

The historical mystery project made sense for a lot of reasons, but since my audience (all 17 of you....) are fantasy readers, it made more sense to concentrate on creating a fantasy setting of my own. That's the next project. More info coming soon.



Oooh, my interest is officially piqued!

Ditto.

Although I would love to see a world that you and Ed share-in-the-making, I also know what it means to an author to create a successful IP of their own (something I am currently struggling to do myself).

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Edited by - Markustay on 06 Apr 2011 20:46:38
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author

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Posted - 06 Apr 2011 :  20:53:23  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Although I would love to see a world that you and Ed share-in-the-making, I also know what it means to an author to create a successful IP of their own (something I am currently struggling to do myself).


As much as I love Ed and respect his work, it is long, long past time for me to create something of my own.

The desire for control has become very important to me. I've watched with interest the developments in e-books, and after a great deal of consideration decided to publish this story as an "e-riginal" fantasy series.

I'm determined that Honor Among Thieves, the first book, will be as polished as anything I've published with a traditional publisher. I have terrific first readers, and I've hired an editor to do the final pass and proof. The art should be finished this weeks. Early drafts are wonderful.

At this point, I don't have a lot more news and would prefer not to spend much time at Candlekeep discussing it. As soon as the new website is up, I'll post a link. Any questions and comments about the Starsinger Tales can be directed there.
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 08 Apr 2011 :  16:15:55  Show Profile  Send The Red Walker a Yahoo! Message Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Although I would love to see a world that you and Ed share-in-the-making, I also know what it means to an author to create a successful IP of their own (something I am currently struggling to do myself).


As much as I love Ed and respect his work, it is long, long past time for me to create something of my own.

The desire for control has become very important to me. I've watched with interest the developments in e-books, and after a great deal of consideration decided to publish this story as an "e-riginal" fantasy series.

I'm determined that Honor Among Thieves, the first book, will be as polished as anything I've published with a traditional publisher. I have terrific first readers, and I've hired an editor to do the final pass and proof. The art should be finished this weeks. Early drafts are wonderful.

At this point, I don't have a lot more news and would prefer not to spend much time at Candlekeep discussing it. As soon as the new website is up, I'll post a link. Any questions and comments about the Starsinger Tales can be directed there.



I'm very excited by this news. It's great to see one of my very favorite fantasy(or any genre) authors on the cutting edge with
e-riginal works!

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 08 Apr 2011 :  16:18:32  Show Profile  Send The Red Walker a Yahoo! Message Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Although I would love to see a world that you and Ed share-in-the-making, I also know what it means to an author to create a successful IP of their own (something I am currently struggling to do myself).


As much as I love Ed and respect his work, it is long, long past time for me to create something of my own.

The desire for control has become very important to me. I've watched with interest the developments in e-books, and after a great deal of consideration decided to publish this story as an "e-riginal" fantasy series.

I'm determined that Honor Among Thieves, the first book, will be as polished as anything I've published with a traditional publisher. I have terrific first readers, and I've hired an editor to do the final pass and proof. The art should be finished this weeks. Early drafts are wonderful.

At this point, I don't have a lot more news and would prefer not to spend much time at Candlekeep discussing it. As soon as the new website is up, I'll post a link. Any questions and comments about the Starsinger Tales can be directed there.



I'm very excited by this news. It's great to see one of my very favorite fantasy(or any genre) authors on the cutting edge with
e-riginal works!

P.S. Especially with a few publishers now charging a bit more for an e-book verision of new releases that Hardcover versions. I'm quite curious too see what your pricing stratgey/price point will be.


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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author

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Posted - 08 Apr 2011 :  18:58:32  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker
P.S. Especially with a few publishers now charging a bit more for an e-book verision of new releases that Hardcover versions. I'm quite curious too see what your pricing stratgey/price point will be.



It's a short novel--about 50,000 words, a length that traditional publishing usually doesn't deal with.

For a number of reasons, $2.99 seems to be the ideal price point. Less-than-a-latte pricing will, I hope, prompt people to take a chance on the series. And I hope the first book will convince them to buy the second and third at the same price.

We'll see.

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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker
P.S. Especially with a few publishers now charging a bit more for an e-book verision of new releases that Hardcover versions. I'm quite curious too see what your pricing stratgey/price point will be.



It's a short novel--about 50,000 words, a length that traditional publishing usually doesn't deal with.

For a number of reasons, $2.99 seems to be the ideal price point. Less-than-a-latte pricing will, I hope, prompt people to take a chance on the series. And I hope the first book will convince them to buy the second and third at the same price.

We'll see.





I'd gladly drop $20 for a charter subscription

P.S. and easily pay $2.99 per tome.

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BlackAce
Learned Scribe

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Apr 2011 :  22:39:14  Show Profile Send BlackAce a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

quote:
Originally posted by BlackAce

Oh that's a shame. I must admit, I've been half looking forward to it. Please let us know it if ever gets moving again.



I will, and thanks for asking.

The historical mystery project made sense for a lot of reasons, but since my audience (all 17 of you....) are fantasy readers, it made more sense to concentrate on creating a fantasy setting of my own. That's the next project. More info coming soon.



Sounds great. Certainly given me something else to look forward too.

Oh and I'm sure we'll respect your whishes and not pester you too much about it, while you're trying to get on. But don't forget, a little shameless self promotion never hurts! I doubt anyone here is going to complain!

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Firestorm
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Hey Elaine. I was just wondering if you ever watched the show "Castle"

Good lord, my first thought when I started watching that show was that Castle and Beckett are a near match for Danilo and Arylin haha.
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author

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Posted - 10 Apr 2011 :  20:53:54  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Firestorm

Hey Elaine. I was just wondering if you ever watched the show "Castle"

Good lord, my first thought when I started watching that show was that Castle and Beckett are a near match for Danilo and Arylin haha.



I very seldom watch TV. I only saw one episdoe of "Castle," so I'm not in a position to agree or disagree with your comparison.
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