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Dracons
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Posted - 17 May 2010 :  23:51:33  Show Profile  Visit Dracons's Homepage Send Dracons a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Where can I find a good list of NDA's? I wasn't aware there were some mysterious of the realms that weren't answered. I thought everything had an answer. Now I'm confused. Can someone give me some examples?

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sfdragon
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Posted - 18 May 2010 :  00:33:50  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
the isnt one

start one.

Jergal is NDA and his connection to both the spell weavers and tri-kreen is NDA



and it is NOt that there is NOT an answer , it is that there are LBA( Legal Binding Agreements) such as the NDA( Non-Disclosure-Agreement) that prevent from getting the answer or even a comment on said issue

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 18 May 2010 :  00:36:13  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dracons

Where can I find a good list of NDA's? I wasn't aware there were some mysterious of the realms that weren't answered. I thought everything had an answer. Now I'm confused. Can someone give me some examples?



Every third question on Ed thread is an NDA.

Seriously, if there are compiled lists for NDAs, I think only Wizards and the people who signed would have them. I don't think anyone else has even suggested making such a list.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 18 May 2010 :  01:22:04  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dracons

Where can I find a good list of NDA's? I wasn't aware there were some mysterious of the realms that weren't answered. I thought everything had an answer. Now I'm confused. Can someone give me some examples?



I'm sorry, that's NDA.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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The Sage
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Posted - 18 May 2010 :  01:42:04  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As I've jokingly said in the past... it's probably easier to make a list of what isn't covered by NDA's in terms of future Realmslore - especially when it concerns specific Ed-lore.

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Jakk
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You weren't joking, Sage. It's the truth, particularly post-Spellplague.

What I'd like to know is, how did Ashe find out that the existence of a list of NDA's is covered by an NDA? That NDA is supposed to be hidden and completely disavowed, and the existence of the list only rumoured... someone let something slip somewhere...


Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

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Elfinblade
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Posted - 18 May 2010 :  09:56:11  Show Profile Send Elfinblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jakk

You weren't joking, Sage. It's the truth, particularly post-Spellplague.

What I'd like to know is, how did Ashe find out that the existence of a list of NDA's is covered by an NDA? That NDA is supposed to be hidden and completely disavowed, and the existence of the list only rumoured... someone let something slip somewhere...





Haha indeed
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Zanan
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Posted - 18 May 2010 :  10:03:52  Show Profile  Visit Zanan's Homepage Send Zanan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ain't it more easy to list what is not NDA with regards to the Realms?

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Kno
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Posted - 18 May 2010 :  11:02:52  Show Profile Send Kno a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Most of the things the designers say are under NDA aren't really, they are left to the GM.

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Zanan
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Posted - 18 May 2010 :  11:59:33  Show Profile  Visit Zanan's Homepage Send Zanan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kno

Most of the things the designers say are under NDA aren't really, they are left to the GM.


I don't think that's the point. It's simply that authors et al are not allowed to comment or speak about certain FR-related events that they know or write about in the public.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 18 May 2010 :  13:42:08  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jakk

You weren't joking, Sage. It's the truth, particularly post-Spellplague.

What I'd like to know is, how did Ashe find out that the existence of a list of NDA's is covered by an NDA? That NDA is supposed to be hidden and completely disavowed, and the existence of the list only rumoured... someone let something slip somewhere...




Note my signature.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Alisttair
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Posted - 18 May 2010 :  15:13:32  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We could make a thread listing all known NDA's me thinks!

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Razz
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Posted - 19 May 2010 :  01:32:06  Show Profile Send Razz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon

the isnt one

start one.

Jergal is NDA and his connection to both the spell weavers and tri-kreen is NDA




Woah, that's news to me! Where do I find info on that?

We do need a list.
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The Sage
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Posted - 19 May 2010 :  02:17:30  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Razz

quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon

the isnt one

start one.

Jergal is NDA and his connection to both the spell weavers and tri-kreen is NDA




Woah, that's news to me! Where do I find info on that?

We do need a list.

Courtesy of Ed's scroll [16 May '10]:-
quote:
Hi again, all. Ed just sent me another e-mail, in which he regretfully noted that Jergal is too NDA'd for him to say much about Jergal's mortal existence before ascension. However, he added this enigmatic comment:

Much has yet to be revealed about the spellweaver race and about the racial past/development of the thri-kreen. Both of which have a connection to Jergal (in one case to his mortal self AND his divine self, and in the other only to his divine self).
There. NDAs avoided by one of deftest dances I've had to do in a long time. :}

So saith Ed. Who promises a reply to Joran re paladinhood, next.
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Jakk
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Posted - 19 May 2010 :  05:44:29  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yep... reading Ed's scroll will definitely tell you what has NDAs on it, because if it's NDA'd and nobody else has asked Ed about it, I have.

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

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Dracons
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Posted - 19 May 2010 :  18:13:25  Show Profile  Visit Dracons's Homepage Send Dracons a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What? How is there not a list? I can think of two on top of my head already?

1: What are the second and six imanaskar?
2: What was Jergal in the past?

I'm not talking about anwswers, I'm asking for what is not covered anywhere. Stuff like the two above is what I want. I don't want the ANSWERS to them, but they are both NDA as to what the answers are.


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Razz
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Posted - 20 May 2010 :  00:02:28  Show Profile Send Razz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I see what you mean, I was thinking along the same lines. A compilation of NDA info known.
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The Sage
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Posted - 20 May 2010 :  00:57:45  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
While I applaud the notion of compiling a list of NDAs, I will note that it would be a considerable undertaking. We're talking about, at least online both here at Candlekeep and Wizards, searching through scrolls from over the last nine years and collecting every single and relevant mention of an NDA that is still NDA in 2010.

I can't attempt anything like this on my own, but I'd gladly participate in any kind of group effort [which would probably meet with more success].

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Zireael
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Posted - 20 May 2010 :  09:00:33  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Another NDAs off my head.
1. The 'lost prince of Evermeet'
2. Arilyn and Danilo's later fate
3. I think Azariah is NDA'ed too... correct me if I'm wrong
4. Mynda Gyrfalcon-Thann's connection to Dan and Arilyn

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Elfinblade
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Posted - 20 May 2010 :  12:05:04  Show Profile Send Elfinblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It might be easier and less time-consuming to list the lore that is not NDA listed? I mean, whatever lore that comes to mind that still up in the air, and never got a conclusion in either the novels or the sourcebooks are likely NDA anyway.
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sfdragon
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Posted - 20 May 2010 :  21:38:40  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
info on the true Blackstaff (artifact) is also NDA iirc

why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


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