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Therise
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 16 Oct 2011 : 15:35:28
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Originally posted by Sill Alias
A question: do you think any wizards in Toril have a kind of magic 8-ball?
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 16 Oct 2011 : 15:40:06
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Originally posted by Sill Alias
A question: do you think any wizards in Toril have a kind of magic 8-ball?
A magical divination device that answers specific questions with canned, vague responses, or a non-magical device that answers specific questions with random canned responses?
I'm sure there are individual examples of the former... As for the latter, they'd prolly take the form of non-magical runestones, or maybe something like the Calantina, from Dragginglance. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 16 Oct 2011 : 15:40:39
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Originally posted by Therise
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Originally posted by Sill Alias
A question: do you think any wizards in Toril have a kind of magic 8-ball?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2011 : 03:03:49
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Originally posted by Sill Alias
A question: do you think any wizards in Toril have a kind of magic 8-ball?
I'd really think this would be an interesting question for Ed, who we know has certain thoughts about the use of prophetic magic in the Realms. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 17 Oct 2011 : 03:05:06
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'm sure there are individual examples of the former... As for the latter, they'd prolly take the form of non-magical runestones, or maybe something like the Calantina, from Dragginglance.
The Dragonorbs possessed some degree of prophetic ability to provide vague responses too... depending on the source material you're relying on. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7974 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2011 : 11:34:08
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Well, I do have one player who is quite seriously obsessed with d12. He will happily (and relentlessly) explain how a d12 is superior to other dice and yet it is also sadly and sorely underused; he creates opportunities to encourage arbitrary d12 rolling whenever possible. He'll use a d12 to roll 1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 1-6, 1-12, 1-24, 1-144, etc. He'll roll a d12 when a coin-flip is needed, then roll another to determine if the first should be numbered as even/odd or high/low. He goes out of his way to group things in twelves (or into even integer multiples/divisors of twelve), no matter how senseless it may be.
Unfortunately he's carried this behaviour to his character - and since I insisted too often that his character doesn't possess a d12 to roll he had his character spend time and resources to make his own. The first was a minor magical novelty item used for amusement and gambling; subsequent items included 12-sided "smart caltrops", ioun stones, umbrellas, combination locks, guild hats, and - of course - the magic 12-ball tool he uses for divining purposes.
Incidentally, his character is a dimensionalist wizard, he used 12-sided spell components, 12-sided buttons, 12-sided everything, never to be caught lacking an improvised d12 on hand ... and his last (still incomplete) nebulous project with that character was some kind of complex system of 12-sided movement through time (and space?). The heart of his theoretical construct is based on attempting to adapt pentagons from other magics into his own system; after all, a pentagon is merely one facing on a dodecahedron, why make a boring summoning circle when you can add another dimension to make a complete summoning forcecage? I'll admit this character hasn't been played for a long time, he was last seen going mad in his lab while plotting how to defeat his clone; he felt his clone was obviously insane for firmly preferring 12-sided rhombic dodecahedra. |
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WizardsHerb
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Oct 2011 : 13:17:03
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| That might be the most interesting character I have ever heard actually played, Ayrik. Wow! |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
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3131 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2011 : 13:57:19
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Originally posted by Ayrik
Well, I do have one player who is quite seriously obsessed with d12. He will happily (and relentlessly) explain how a d12 is superior to other dice and yet it is also sadly and sorely underused; he creates opportunities to encourage arbitrary d12 rolling whenever possible. He'll use a d12 to roll 1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 1-6, 1-12, 1-24, 1-144, etc. He'll roll a d12 when a coin-flip is needed, then roll another to determine if the first should be numbered as even/odd or high/low. He goes out of his way to group things in twelves (or into even integer multiples/divisors of twelve), no matter how senseless it may be.
Unfortunately he's carried this behaviour to his character - and since I insisted too often that his character doesn't possess a d12 to roll he had his character spend time and resources to make his own. The first was a minor magical novelty item used for amusement and gambling; subsequent items included 12-sided "smart caltrops", ioun stones, umbrellas, combination locks, guild hats, and - of course - the magic 12-ball tool he uses for divining purposes.
Incidentally, his character is a dimensionalist wizard, he used 12-sided spell components, 12-sided buttons, 12-sided everything, never to be caught lacking an improvised d12 on hand ... and his last (still incomplete) nebulous project with that character was some kind of complex system of 12-sided movement through time (and space?). The heart of his theoretical construct is based on attempting to adapt pentagons from other magics into his own system; after all, a pentagon is merely one facing on a dodecahedron, why make a boring summoning circle when you can add another dimension to make a complete summoning forcecage? I'll admit this character hasn't been played for a long time, he was last seen going mad in his lab while plotting how to defeat his clone; he felt his clone was obviously insane for firmly preferring 12-sided rhombic dodecahedra.
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Therise
Master of Realmslore
1272 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2011 : 14:09:16
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Originally posted by Ayrik
Well, I do have one player who is quite seriously obsessed with d12. (....) he felt his clone was obviously insane for firmly preferring 12-sided rhombic dodecahedra.
Elongated square di-pyramidals make really cool d12s also, if you're a fan of unusual dice.
There's also the "Triakis" d12 which is pretty unique:
http://www.shapeways.com/model/210329/
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
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3131 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2011 : 14:41:48
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Originally posted by Therise
quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik
Well, I do have one player who is quite seriously obsessed with d12. (....) he felt his clone was obviously insane for firmly preferring 12-sided rhombic dodecahedra.
Elongated square di-pyramidals make really cool d12s also, if you're a fan of unusual dice.
There's also the "Triakis" d12 which is pretty unique:
http://www.shapeways.com/model/210329/
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WizardsHerb
Acolyte
United Kingdom
23 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2011 : 14:57:17
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| I used to have a special die too. A d1, for when someone wanted to do something with a guaranteed outcome. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 17 Oct 2011 : 19:16:46
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quote:
Originally posted by Therise
quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik
Well, I do have one player who is quite seriously obsessed with d12. (....) he felt his clone was obviously insane for firmly preferring 12-sided rhombic dodecahedra.
Elongated square di-pyramidals make really cool d12s also, if you're a fan of unusual dice.
There's also the "Triakis" d12 which is pretty unique:
http://www.shapeways.com/model/210329/
I had one of the d5s Dragon magazine gave away years back, but it was sadly lost in the fire -- I had it on display, instead of in my dice bag. My dice bag wasn't in the fire, but the d5 was with the other stuff from my computer desk.  |
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WizardsHerb
Acolyte
United Kingdom
23 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2011 : 02:40:30
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What do folks in the Realms do about dental care? Rinse regularly? Magic? Dentist prestige class for Commoners?
For that matter, what about hair? Scroll of Cure Light Dandruff? xD
Since it's a high magic, high fantasy setting, I'm imagining that local clerics or equivalent handle these sorts of things in a public-sector or charitable kind of fashion, with arcane casters being the private-sector sort doing it for fixed fees, with the individual decided whether to use spells or mystic herbs and potions for curing the most minor ailments.
Is this sort of thing in the setting sourcebooks, or does someone know? |
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1267 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2011 : 03:05:56
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| Aurora's Whole Realms Catalog I believe has some hair brushes and hair care things in it...not sure about dental care tho! I can dig it out if you'd like and look! |
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WizardsHerb
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Oct 2011 : 03:28:34
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7974 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2011 : 04:34:38
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Perhaps teeth and breath are kept clean by chewing certain roots. Or perhaps not at all. Or cured through magics, or simply disguised through illusion.
I wonder if a characteristic missing tooth would be regrown after polymorph ... or if the character could be recognized through this missing tooth regardless of which form he assumes. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 00:20:16
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Originally posted by entreri3478
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Originally posted by Therise
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Originally posted by Ayrik
Well, I do have one player who is quite seriously obsessed with d12. (....) he felt his clone was obviously insane for firmly preferring 12-sided rhombic dodecahedra.
Elongated square di-pyramidals make really cool d12s also, if you're a fan of unusual dice.
There's also the "Triakis" d12 which is pretty unique:
http://www.shapeways.com/model/210329/
I have a d100, which takes approx. 12 minutes to stop rolling
Really?! What are you rolling it on?! Mine (two of them) only take half a minute to stop rolling. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 01:28:26
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Yes, the infamous "Zocchihedron" ... not a face-transitive isohedral form, not a "fair die", some googling shows that a few informal studies (along with plenty of anecdotal commentary) demonstrates this d100 is heavily biased towards the equatorial values, it rolls very uneven probability curves, even though it's gone through a few revised attempts to correct the issue. Mine was almost the size of a tennis ball, and it was basically just a sphere with 100 arbitrarily spaced out (and unequal-sized) faces cut and numbered in a semi-random pattern. Without a cookie sheet barrier it rolls like a golf ball, for a minute or so, before coming to rest.
The real annoyance then becomes evident: it's often fairly difficult to ascertain exactly which numbered facing is topmost, differences of opinion have resulted in some unhappiness at the gaming table.
I think it's simply stupid to make dice which cannot be easily read. The classic pair of d10s is easily read and almost immediately comes to rest when rolled. Also smaller and less likely to make that annoying rattly noise. Win, win, win. |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
USA
3131 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 01:46:33
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
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Originally posted by entreri3478
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Originally posted by Therise
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Originally posted by Ayrik
Well, I do have one player who is quite seriously obsessed with d12. (....) he felt his clone was obviously insane for firmly preferring 12-sided rhombic dodecahedra.
Elongated square di-pyramidals make really cool d12s also, if you're a fan of unusual dice.
There's also the "Triakis" d12 which is pretty unique:
http://www.shapeways.com/model/210329/
I have a d100, which takes approx. 12 minutes to stop rolling
Really?! What are you rolling it on?! Mine (two of them) only take half a minute to stop rolling.
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Seethyr
Master of Realmslore
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1151 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 03:23:17
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I have two semi-stupid questions...
Did all of the major cities of the realms have decent sewage systems? If not how did they deal with waste?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 03:35:35
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Ed has dealt with this topic somewhat. Simply search the "So Saith Ed" archive.
[A quick scan of my mobile files indicates relevant posts at:- May 23rd and Oct. 11th replies in the '05 file, and the 23rd and 25th replies for January in the '06 file.] |
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Seethyr
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 04:06:50
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Originally posted by The Sage
Ed has dealt with this topic somewhat. Simply search the "So Saith Ed" archive.
[A quick scan of my mobile files indicates relevant posts at:- May 23rd and Oct. 11th replies in the '05 file, and the 23rd and 25th replies for January in the '06 file.]
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
USA
3131 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 13:58:44
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Originally posted by Seethyr
I have two semi-stupid questions...
Did all of the major cities of the realms have decent sewage systems? If not how did they deal with waste?
I can honestly say that after reading 150+ Realms books, this has never crossed my mind |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
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3131 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 14:03:05
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Originally posted by Seethyr
I have two semi-stupid questions...
Did all of the major cities of the realms have decent sewage systems? If not how did they deal with waste?
It's just one of things that we tend to ignore when reading fantasy, just like how most of the fantasy characters we read about probably have lice, massive tooth decay, abdominal parasites, etc.....and probably in need of some excellent hair conditioner  |
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1267 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 16:08:40
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Originally posted by WizardsHerb
What do folks in the Realms do about dental care? Rinse regularly? Magic? Dentist prestige class for Commoners?
For that matter, what about hair? Scroll of Cure Light Dandruff? xD
Since it's a high magic, high fantasy setting, I'm imagining that local clerics or equivalent handle these sorts of things in a public-sector or charitable kind of fashion, with arcane casters being the private-sector sort doing it for fixed fees, with the individual decided whether to use spells or mystic herbs and potions for curing the most minor ailments.
Is this sort of thing in the setting sourcebooks, or does someone know?
On page 100-101 of the Whole Realms catalog, they have "personal" grooming devices described. Nothing really specifically about lice removal or tooth decay; mostly soap, razors, perfumes, hair brushes, that sort of thing! I imagine a cure disease spell would clear the body of lice, gum disease and intestinal parasites tho? Maybe one for Ed :) |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 16:14:12
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Originally posted by Seravin
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Originally posted by WizardsHerb
What do folks in the Realms do about dental care? Rinse regularly? Magic? Dentist prestige class for Commoners?
For that matter, what about hair? Scroll of Cure Light Dandruff? xD
Since it's a high magic, high fantasy setting, I'm imagining that local clerics or equivalent handle these sorts of things in a public-sector or charitable kind of fashion, with arcane casters being the private-sector sort doing it for fixed fees, with the individual decided whether to use spells or mystic herbs and potions for curing the most minor ailments.
Is this sort of thing in the setting sourcebooks, or does someone know?
On page 100-101 of the Whole Realms catalog, they have "personal" grooming devices described. Nothing really specifically about lice removal or tooth decay; mostly soap, razors, perfumes, hair brushes, that sort of thing! I imagine a cure disease spell would clear the body of lice, gum disease and intestinal parasites tho? Maybe one for Ed :)
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Dennis
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Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 16:16:41
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Does the Realms have beauty pageants? Miss Faerun? Miss Toril? Mister Hot Bod? |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 16:18:51
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Originally posted by Dennis
Does the Realms have beauty pageants? Miss Faerun? Miss Toril? Mister Hot Bod?
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Chosen of Asmodeus
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 16:33:03
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Originally posted by entreri3478
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Originally posted by Seethyr
I have two semi-stupid questions...
Did all of the major cities of the realms have decent sewage systems? If not how did they deal with waste?
It's just one of things that we tend to ignore when reading fantasy, just like how most of the fantasy characters we read about probably have lice, massive tooth decay, abdominal parasites, etc.....and probably in need of some excellent hair conditioner
The sewage question has been answered, actually; one novel(R.A. Salvatore's Ghost King, I believe), mentions that major cities have sewers and plumbing that is maintained by water elementals summoned by local wizards. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 16:37:52
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Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
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Originally posted by entreri3478
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Originally posted by Seethyr
I have two semi-stupid questions...
Did all of the major cities of the realms have decent sewage systems? If not how did they deal with waste?
It's just one of things that we tend to ignore when reading fantasy, just like how most of the fantasy characters we read about probably have lice, massive tooth decay, abdominal parasites, etc.....and probably in need of some excellent hair conditioner
The sewage question has been answered, actually; one novel(R.A. Salvatore's Ghost King, I believe), mentions that major cities have sewers and plumbing that is maintained by water elementals summoned by local wizards.
There are also some explanations to Waterdeep's sewage system, or some vague references to it, in almost all the novels with the word Waterdeep/City of Splendors in their titles. |
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