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Alystra Illianniis
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Markustay
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 Posted - 14 Nov 2010 : 18:58:00
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 14 Nov 2010 : 19:21:37
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
Do you think having a resistance to fire might be possible? The mother was created from the 2nd ed CoW rules (gold, silver, and bronze only, all abliities gained at certain levels, with just a few discretionary traits, others arbitrary. There were no class-based or "racial path" options to take. CG bard/sorceress/bladesinger class in 3.5 standards)
Maybe a bit of damage resistance, or a specific resist elements effect. Not too much without a feat. In my mind, the dragon blood is too thinned out by the second generation to really count for much. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 14 Nov 2010 : 19:22:30
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Originally posted by Markustay
Can you use an anti-magic field to destroy an anti-magic field? Will the cancel each other out if they take form simultaneously?
I don't see why not, for either scenario. Keep in mind I'm going from memory and logic, and not looking at the rules for any edition. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Nov 2010 : 07:28:25
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| That's interesting Wooly, since elven blood still counts in 2nd gen standards for racial feats and classes (ie- Danilo still qualified for bladesinger class in spite of only being 1/4th elven.) Is dragon lineage that different? I haven't seen anything in the sources to determine this. I'm trying to strike a balance between the two sides of the ancestry- drow on one side, and draconic blood on the other. I think element resistance is good, but I also don't want to have to use a feat to decide abilities for chars that are only young children. |
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Sandro
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 15 Nov 2010 : 08:03:21
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
That's interesting Wooly, since elven blood still counts in 2nd gen standards for racial feats and classes (ie- Danilo still qualified for bladesinger class in spite of only being 1/4th elven.) Is dragon lineage that different? I haven't seen anything in the sources to determine this. I'm trying to strike a balance between the two sides of the ancestry- drow on one side, and draconic blood on the other. I think element resistance is good, but I also don't want to have to use a feat to decide abilities for chars that are only young children.
There is a 3.5 Paragon Class in the DMG called Dragon Disciple, or something to that effect, which is based on a player with distant draconic heritage inheriting it, eventually becoming a half-dragon at about 10th level. You might want to look at some of the lower level bonuses of the class for some basic features for your character; I do believe they gain elemental resistance based on what manner of dragon from which they're descended, as well as various other nifty features. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Nov 2010 : 08:23:14
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| I'm aware of the class, Sandro. Haven't really looked much at it, but I might do that. This is primarily for story purposes, however- not in-game. I'd like to use something that would make sense for young children to have, who are not old enough to have acquired a class yet- background crunch as opposed to RP crunch, as it were. Or "racial traits", to put it more simply. Does anyone know if anything from the Races of the Dragon book might be useful? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 15 Nov 2010 : 11:16:04
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
That's interesting Wooly, since elven blood still counts in 2nd gen standards for racial feats and classes (ie- Danilo still qualified for bladesinger class in spite of only being 1/4th elven.) Is dragon lineage that different? I haven't seen anything in the sources to determine this. I'm trying to strike a balance between the two sides of the ancestry- drow on one side, and draconic blood on the other. I think element resistance is good, but I also don't want to have to use a feat to decide abilities for chars that are only young children.
Keep in mind Danilo was a novel character. Novel characters don't always follow the rules. Besides, he had a bit of help in the form of being bound to Arilyn's moonblade. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 15 Nov 2010 : 11:16:51
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
Does anyone know if anything from the Races of the Dragon book might be useful?
Well, I did suggest it earlier... |
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Lily M Green
Learned Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 15 Nov 2010 : 18:31:31
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Originally posted by Lily M Green
Okay, So I've got a group in Baldur's Gate and we need to get to Mulhorand, specifically Skuld what would be our best option? Overland, by sea? (In 3.5e) Your thoughts please learned Scribes. Thank you :)
(So this is potentially not a stupid question but it really didn't warrant a thread of it's own).
Just like Elfinblade, I'd recommend getting to a port on the Sea of Fallen Stars. If I had to plan this, and had a choice of transportation (non-supernatural), I'd try and catch a river boat down the Chiontar river, to Iriaebor, then from Iriaebor overland to Westgate, and try to catch a boat heading in the general direction of Skuld (you may choose to have a direct connection, or you may have them switch boats in one of the other ports on the Sea of Fallen Stars).
Thanks chaps, very useful stuff. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 15 Nov 2010 : 19:14:01
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I think that falls into the 'Rule Zero' realm, Alystra. It works if a DM/author/designer says it does.
In other words, genetics is a tricky thing, and even trickier in a magical universe. No-one knows for sure which genes will be passed-on. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Nov 2010 : 22:48:45
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| Well, thanks for the help, anyway, even though I'm still stuck on it. I did recall you suggesting the book Wooly, but I didn't want to have to search through an entire pdf for something that might not be there. Guess I'll just have to dig... Though where Danilo is concerned, I seem to recall he was going that route even before he got bound to the blade. Could be wrong though. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Dec 2010 : 12:25:55
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I suppose variant or miscast Polymorph spells (or curses) could produce any imaginable sort of racial hybrid ...
Back to the Familiar question - FOR1: The Draconomicon presents the 2E Find Humanoid Familiar spell. It's conceivable that 3E/3.5E material could present draconic familiar feats analogous to those of normal characters. If so, then it seems possible that some dragons would possess familiars more useful than random stupid humanoids. Maybe some of the bigshot centuries-old characters of the Realms are in fact familiars to dragons? Maybe they even volunteered for the position to gain access to longevity and a magic-using dragon buddy (who might be willing to share spells or magic items)? There must be dragons who'd rather have a "permanent" Elminster-like wizard familiar than an endless string of dumb goblin familiars, an alliance (or forced relationship) wherein the dragon knows his familiar is reasonably capable of functioning as a spy, agent, bodyguard, or constant trickle of decently valuable additions to his hoard - and where he knows the telepathically-bonded wizard cannot possibly harm him or keep any plotty secrets.
More intelligent dragons might even entrust their familiars to act as proxies who invest some portion of their hoard in human cities ... it feels nice to sleep on all that gold, but it might feel nicer to know that the gold is being multiplied through profits and interest (compound interest times dragon lifespan equals vast riches, maybe even an economic takeover of entire cities). I can easily imagine sophisticated dragons functioning as "corporate CEOs" or "crimelords" ... secretly or openly, either way has benefits. Imagine a Faerūn-spanning draconic bankers guild, or even a red mafia dragonic loanshark guild who inflict rather severe penalties on anyone who doesn't repay their debts on time ...
Priests of Bahamut, Tiamat, and Waukeen seem like superb familiars. As do dragonborn, master thieves, even bards, druids, warriors - whatever type of individual or deity best serves the dragon's interests or efficiently procures more loot.
Also ... The Draconomicon often refers to the "Club of Candlekeep".
... a group of sages known only as the "Club of Candlekeep". These sages, although members of the Order of Candlekeep, are more interested in exploring the pageant of the past than plumbing the mists of the future through the predictions of Alaundo the Seer. No one knows the identities of the members of the Club. None of their writings which have been distributed fairly widely throughout the Realms claim individual authorship; all are identified only as having been written by the Club ...
A secret club, eh? |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Dec 2010 : 13:50:24
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Ayrik
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Dec 2010 : 14:05:21
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 20 Dec 2010 : 14:29:01
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Originally posted by Arik
Scribe Brimstone's referring to those who have attained the rank of Great Reader here at Candlekeep. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Dec 2010 : 15:10:15
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Ah. I failed my intelligence check on that one.
Speaking of which, I see I'm at 999 posts now, lol. Do I get flowers? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 20 Dec 2010 : 16:35:32
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Originally posted by Arik
Ah. I failed my intelligence check on that one.
Speaking of which, I see I'm at 999 posts now, lol. Do I get flowers?
One more post, and you'll get a not-so-shiny grey star.  |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 24 Dec 2010 : 02:38:14
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| I have a new question- not Realms-related, but does anyone remember the name of an old 80's fantasy movie that featured a three-bladed sword used by the main protagonist? It was a two-handed blade, and the two side blades could "fire" off at an opponent, IIRC. I don't remember much beyond the fact that it was a sword-and-sorcery type of movie, and kind of cheesy, but I loved the sword. Please help, as I'm using a similar blade in a pbp game on another site. |
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 24 Dec 2010 : 02:49:47
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Alystra, I can see it in my mind's eye, but the movie eludes me at the moment. One of the Highlander's maybe? Also, there was a sword in the 2e Encyclopedia Magica that was similar. It may have been The Sword of Kas, the Bloody Handed who was Vecna's general. I'd have to look to be sure, but I'm far away from those books.
No wait...I want to say the warrior who wielded said sword was named, Jet and served some dark deity. Turbo? Tri-???
I should've listened to my high school science teacher, who told me "braincells do not regenerate".
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Alystra Illianniis
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 24 Dec 2010 : 03:20:34
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| I googled it, because it was really bugging me, and the movie was The Sword and the Sorcerer (1982) and the hero's name was Talon and the more I think about it, I'm sure the sword from EM was "Turbo" |
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Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
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Ayrik
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Dec 2010 : 03:52:21
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| A-HA! Oh, bless you both, i had no clue where to even begin looking for that. Yes, it was the sword (and ONLY that) which I remembered, which might tell you something about the *ahem* quality of the movie. BTW, thanks for the links, Arik! |
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Diffan
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Dec 2010 : 04:02:33
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I remember renting that movie, The Sword and the Sorcerer and boy was it bad, even for Fantasy films. And yea, the sword was able to shoot the other blades out of this hilt.
As for Kurgan's sword, that thing was pretty impressive and still sells for over a $300 bucks!! and it's not even high carbon steel  !!
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 24 Dec 2010 : 04:20:07
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People who buy stuff like Kurgan's (or Aragorn's) sword, klingon daggers, and such are probably - by medieval standards - entirely unproficient with these weapons and largely interested only in appearance and kewlness. Junk iron, the sort they make cheap bolts and trinkets from, plus a seemingly sharp edge, stainless chromy surfacing, and a ton of decorative embellishments ... with a hefty price tag. These things are probably stamped out with hydraulic die cutters, then hammered by hand just enough to add some "craftsman" tool marks. The "katana" blades made in Mexico are sometimes made with a sintered powder molding process, not at all suitable for clanging against armour.
No bladesmith in the Realms would attempt to sell one of these gimmicky things (badly-balanced, made from soft steel, and with an "edge" no warrior would respect), at least not for 300 gold pieces. Bad business. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 24 Dec 2010 : 05:46:06
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This is why I only buy my blades from a reputable and proficient smith. Daniel Watson of Angel Sword is one of the best, and although his blades still carry a hefty gold-piece cost, they are ALWAYS well worth it, as they are (almost- I do own one exception, a stiletto that is made of pure silver) always combat-ready. And each piece is unique and individual, owing to slightly different materials used, even for pieces that are all made from the same design.
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Thauramarth
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Dec 2010 : 08:14:38
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(...) and the more I think about it, I'm sure the sword from EM was "Turbo"
The thing is called "Tri-Entity", and is featured op pp. 1409-1411 of the Encyclopedia Magica. Its wielder is indeed called "Jett". |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 24 Dec 2010 : 09:28:17
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I have only one sword. A British Cavalry Officer Sword, exactly like this one (though lacking scabbard and in much better condition). It is stamped with the royal mark (of Queen Victoria), the Wilkinson Swords blademaker (JWL) and testing marks, dated 1896, a Sheffield Steel "hoop L" certifying it as imported Leufta crucible steel - plus the stylized initials of the mysterious first owner, "STW". Apparently only three of these swords were ever made.
My father picked this one up from the back of an antique shop for $10, then commissioned Wilkinson Swords UK to fabricate replacements for the rotted wood/leather components, clean the etching detail, re-blue and silverplate the blade. A little bit of sharkskin and silver twine on the grip, et voilą, the sword is as good as new (except for a few minor nicks some inconsiderate dead guys left on the edge).
I think this blade is a heavy sabre (D&D sabre), it's thick and heavily weighted onto the blade, single-edged and slightly curved so it's obviously meant to be used for a lot of hacking, chopping, and slicing (though not much poking); it's definitely too clumsy to be any sort of delicate fencing weapon. The flexibility of the blade is astounding: my dad used to be fond of demonstrating that the sword could be stabbed into a wooden floor and bent until the basket hilt touches the ground, when released it springs back and rocks from side to side like a pendulum. I know that (with some force) the blade can be bent almost 270° without damage; I never dared to try bending it further (and having it snap) although the literature of the time claimed that Wilkinson-made sabres could be bent full circle so that the tip touches the hilt.
I realize Wilkinson Swords of this sort were considered "masterwork" quality, although I wonder if the extraordinary flexibility of this blade is typical of other sabres and swords from that era of smithing. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 25 Dec 2010 : 03:09:50
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| There is a (very) rare method of smithing which Wilkinson might have used which forged something called "living steel", and it is also used by the smith I mentioned in the previous post (He is one of only a few smiths currently capable of creating it!). BTW, thanks for that linky, Arik- I just spent the last hour drooling over all those swords! |
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Stupid question time...
