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Menelvagor
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Israel
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Posted - 07 Feb 2010 :  07:57:51  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
Finally, my last two questions on The Sword Never Sleeps:
After Lorbryn goes off to help the Knights, warning Laspeera of the possibility that Vangey might be a traitor, what happened? It seems like Laspeera was protected from Vangeys' mind reading, and then dropped her shields, showing him what Lorbryn thought? What was the point of that?
Finally, when Alusair was storming angrily over Vangey sending Dauntless t help the Knights, why was he so shocked? Why didn't he just say "It was your Royal Parents' decision, I was personally against it, I do have to follow their orders, go blame them"?

"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.

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Blueblade
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Posted - 09 Feb 2010 :  15:24:14  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
BEAST, I'm a little bit hazy on this and far from my battered copy of the boxed set right now, but I seem to recall from GenCon seminar discussions that Bob Salvatore wrote lore for this WITH SOMEONE ELSE (and of course provided the original layout for Menzo, that got "prettied up" by someone in TSR's mapping department into the one-page map supplied in the original paperbacks of Bob's novels, that Ed (for the Menzo set) then turned into a massive map (he's told the story before of ruining a bedspread because his Staedler drawing pen inks didn't dry fast enough to prevent "bleedthrough," as he drew 17" x 35" page after page of individual stalagmites, to lay out the entire city). Doug Niles also worked on the set, and I think the house symbols were Bob's, augmented by Ed (who filled in "the missing ones" and added some families so there'd be some named clans left after all the exterminations of families depicted in Bob's HOMELAND and the other books). Ed wrote the spells and magic items, drawing on the Gygaxian originals, created Ghaunadar (to "Realmsify" Gygax's "Elder Elemental God"), and wrote about the environs.
Again, this is just what I can recall, and my memories are fading because that seminar ended with a great informal "future plot possibilities" discussion among Ed, Bob, and some TSR designers that I and some other lucky fans were just standing there eavesdropping on, and memories of THAT overlaid everything else.
Ed? THO? (You're off on an assignment again, aren't you, THO? Talk to us! SPEAK!)
BB
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 09 Feb 2010 :  15:40:13  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Heh. I was, but I'm Baaaack!
Blueblade, I've frankly forgotten, so I'll have to pester Ed. As usual.

Thanks to Mr. Lowder for popping in to make that post. Ed loves to write for Jim not just because they're friends and Jim puts together such fun and intriguing anthologies that let Ed "play" in genres he doesn't visit often, but because Jim produces important book after important book. The two "100 Best" (Hobby Games and Family Games) are important reference works of the sort every library should have. They'll date, of course, as all such works do, but they provide unique snapshots of the words and something of the characters of great game designers, all collected together in one place at one time. I personally snap up all of the other Lowder anthologies, too, both the ones with subject matter I love (Astounding Hero Tales, the Arthurian ones) and those that don't kindle my reading fire as strongly (the "Flesh" zombie books), because Jim has the knack of teasing great stories out of writers for his collections. Now, any anthology is going to be uneven from the viewpoint of any one reader, but I've learned to expect - - without ever being disappointed - - two or more really fine tales in every Lowder anthology, plus another handful of very interesting ones.
I can only think it's the fields he toils in that have kept him from a lot of Hugo editing nominations, down the years. It certainly can't be quality of work.
Every gamer should be interested in the Paizo Lowder-edited anthology WORLDS OF THEIR OWN and the two 100 BEST books. Just as every Realms fan should read the often-overlooked Lowder novel CRUSADE - - which Ed often hands to librarians (along with HOMELAND and ELFSHADOW) who dismiss Realms books as "fantasy shlock," with the words, "Oh? Read these, and come back and tell me you still think that."
Heh. Must run now.
The upcoming Olympics have us all busy.
love to all,
THO
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Menelvagor
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Posted - 11 Feb 2010 :  22:20:30  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
Now I'm re-reading Cormyr: A Novel (again), and already I've found a question:
When Thomdor and Bhereu discuss the 'Obarskyr traits', in the princesses, they mention that 'She [Alusair] and her father get into a flaming row about politics'. What did Alusair and Azoun quarrel over in politics? Did Alusair disagree with her fathers' policies? Which ones? And why?

"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.

"There are no stupid questions just a bunch of inquisitive idiots."

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Knight of the Gate
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Posted - 12 Feb 2010 :  02:06:39  Show Profile  Visit Knight of the Gate's Homepage  Send Knight of the Gate a Yahoo! Message Send Knight of the Gate a Private Message
Can Ed offer any examples of no-longer-existant knightly orders? Especially those either unaffiliated with a given religion, or only loosely so: Perhaps affiliated with a given kingdom or ideal?

How can life be so bountiful, providing such sublime rewards for mediocrity? -Umberto Ecco

Edited by - Knight of the Gate on 12 Feb 2010 02:08:34
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 12 Feb 2010 :  04:04:28  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Menelvagor, Alusair and Azoun disagreed about LOTS of things. If you read James Lowder's novel CRUSADE, you'll get a book-length account of their often difficult relationship.
Some of the specific disagreements are still NDA, some are mentioned in CRUSADE and in the two Cormyr Saga novels after CORMYR, and some are alluded to in Ed's Realmslore web articles on the Wizards website; still others are hinted at in Ed's Knights trilogy. I think Ed has even touched on some of their disagreements in the 2004, 2005, and 2006 iterations of this thread (as have George Krashos and Brian Cortijo, here at the Keep in other forum discussions). More are mentioned in the still-unpublished Cormyr lineage.
Azoun, Filfaeril, Tanalasta, Alusair, Vangerdahast, and Laspeera all have very different STYLES of governing, in matters both large and small. Filfaeril and Laspeera are experts at smilingly manipulating others and putting up with these differences rather than having confrontations over them; Tanalasta, Vangey, and Azoun can all ignore or accept differences when they want to...but mostly, they don't want to.
love,
THO

Edited by - The Hooded One on 12 Feb 2010 15:56:33
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 12 Feb 2010 :  16:04:02  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Knight of the Gate, from memory and the notes I made during Realmsplay with Ed:

I can provide one defunct knightly order from the early 1300s DR: the Order of the One, who wanted to unify the city-states of Chessenta into one kingdom. They were few, undercover, never achieved much (they tried to slay certain city rulers and their [[regarded by Order members as unsuitable for rule, anywhere]] heirs, in duels or skirmishes during hunts, and managed a few severe woundings and one slaying), and were either slain, imprisoned, or hounded into exile, achieving more as an idea or symbol of resistance to bad rulers than anything else.
The descendants of some founders of the Order are or could be still alive, scattered across the Realms, with at least a few living in Chessenta and keeping their heritage VERY secret, so as to stay alive.

Ed, of course, will know of many more. Tethyr was a hotbed of small knightly orders formed to pursue rather idiosyncratic aims, as I recall...
love,
THO
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Knight of the Gate
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Posted - 12 Feb 2010 :  17:22:36  Show Profile  Visit Knight of the Gate's Homepage  Send Knight of the Gate a Yahoo! Message Send Knight of the Gate a Private Message
Good stuff, THO! As always, thanks for the prompt reply, and that's JUST what I was looking for.
While I hold my question answered, I'm sure there would be no sadness if Ed *did* want to chime in with any of the historical orders he's written of.
Thanks again, Lady!

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BEAST
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Posted - 12 Feb 2010 :  19:43:23  Show Profile  Visit BEAST's Homepage Send BEAST a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Blueblade

BEAST, I'm a little bit hazy on this and far from my battered copy of the boxed set right now, but I seem to recall from GenCon seminar discussions that Bob Salvatore wrote lore for this WITH SOMEONE ELSE [...].

Yeah, the first and second books in the set are attributed. The second book, in particular, with all those juicy details on the various drow houses, credits Bob, Mike Leger, and Doug Niles, I believe.

But the third booklet, "The House Do'Urden Retrospective", just gives the title, without any credits. It's mostly a summary of the old Do'Urden characters, plus stats, and a review of the Drizzt Diaries up to that time. Also, there's a then-up-to-date profile of Drizzt, himself. Anyways, that's the one I was wondering about.

"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
--Drizzt Do'Urden (The Pirate King, Part 1: Chapter 2)

<"Comprehensive Chronology of R.A. Salvatore Forgotten Realms Works">
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Brimstone
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Posted - 13 Feb 2010 :  06:16:54  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message
Now that Paizo is going to start a novel line, would Ed be interested in writing up some Golarionlore for it?

Maybe I should start a petition on the Paizo message baords to get Ed to write for them.(We need a dancing smilie.)

One is already going.

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep

Edited by - Brimstone on 13 Feb 2010 06:41:06
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 13 Feb 2010 :  15:41:37  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all. Brimstone, Ed has just answered you at Loremaster. Yes, start that petition!
BEAST, my guess re. the lack of attribution on the third book is that although it was largely a compilation of Bob's already-published lore, much of the actual work may have been done by Eric Severson (Bob's editor at the time) working with Karen Boomgaarden (yes, two "a"s in her name, despite what appears on most TSR publications), who edited the boxed set. Ed may not remember (or have every fully known), but I'll ask him; I'm sure Karen will remember.
love,
THO
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Menelvagor
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Posted - 13 Feb 2010 :  18:14:18  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
Two more questions from Cormyr: A Novel:
Both Iliphar and Alea refer to Myth Drannor - in -205 DR and -75 DR, long before the raising of the mythal and the 'Opening', in 261 DR. Is this a mistake, or was Comanthyr named Myth Drannor before the mythal?
Alusair is referred to as the 'Mithril Princess of Cormyr'. Is there any meaning to this, or the fact that she was 'Steel Regent'? Is there a meaning to the inclusion of metals in titles in Cormyr, and if so, what is it?

"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.

"There are no stupid questions just a bunch of inquisitive idiots."

"Let's not call it 'hijacking'. Let's call it 'Thread Drift'."
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 13 Feb 2010 :  19:44:30  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all. Menelvagor, I'll leave your questions about Alusair's titles to Ed to answer, because it's a little complicated. but as for Myth Drannor: the term was around, as a CONCEPT of glory to come, and therefore as a term of endearment for the city among many elves - - and a "safe" nickname that could readily be used in front of non-elves.
(In the same way as some New Yorkers refer to their city as "the Big Apple.")
love,
THO
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Brimstone
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Posted - 13 Feb 2010 :  23:17:16  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all. Brimstone, Ed has just answered you at Loremaster. Yes, start that petition!
love,
THO


I see!

quote:
Heh. Not only willing to write Pathfinder - - I already do. (Elves for the "base" rulebook, some River Kingdoms lore and monsters; oh, yes, I've been a busy boy.)
As for novels, we'll see. I'd love to, but there's this little matter of time (as in, carving out enough). And coming to an agreement, which for my novels would be handled by my agent, Andy Zack. Frankly, I'd like nothing more than to write a long string of New York Times-bestselling fantasy classics set in Golarion...but we'll just have to see.
If you want to see something like that, please let the good folks at Paizo know. Really.
I'll be standing by, eagerly.



"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep

Edited by - Brimstone on 13 Feb 2010 23:27:04
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 14 Feb 2010 :  02:57:32  Show Profile  Visit BEAST's Homepage Send BEAST a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

BEAST, my guess re. the lack of attribution on the third book is that although it was largely a compilation of Bob's already-published lore, much of the actual work may have been done by Eric Severson (Bob's editor at the time) working with Karen Boomgaarden (yes, two "a"s in her name, despite what appears on most TSR publications), who edited the boxed set. Ed may not remember (or have every fully known), but I'll ask him; I'm sure Karen will remember.

Makes sense. Grazzi!

"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
--Drizzt Do'Urden (The Pirate King, Part 1: Chapter 2)

<"Comprehensive Chronology of R.A. Salvatore Forgotten Realms Works">
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sfdragon
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Posted - 14 Feb 2010 :  03:28:18  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message
I have a question for ED.
Concerning the Netherscrolls?? do they still exist in 4E realms and do they still function somewhat like they used too??

why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 14 Feb 2010 :  16:26:56  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
WHAM!
Ladies and gentlescribes,
the sound you just heard was sfdragon slamming full-tilt into a large, forbidding, utterly unyielding NDA.
(sorry, sfdragon. Ed would love to spill, but the rules of the game are...the rules of the game.)
love,
THO
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sfdragon
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Posted - 14 Feb 2010 :  18:57:19  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message
did anyone get the license of the semi????

why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


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BEAST
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Posted - 14 Feb 2010 :  21:20:38  Show Profile  Visit BEAST's Homepage Send BEAST a Private Message
That HAD to hurt!!!

"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
--Drizzt Do'Urden (The Pirate King, Part 1: Chapter 2)

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Brimstone
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Posted - 15 Feb 2010 :  00:15:48  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon

did anyone get the license of the semi????


No but I saw one of it's bumper stickers. It said Cyric Loves You!

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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The Sage
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Was that a not-so-subtle reference to Marvel's Secret Invasion, Brim?

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Brimstone
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Was that a not-so-subtle reference to Marvel's Secret Invasion, Brim?


No not really, just messing around.

Plus I am back on my Cyric Rules kick on the WotC Forums.

So what am I missing Sage?

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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sfdragon
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not to derail this thread of questions to the Most Esteemed Ed Greenwood, but what does this marvel thing have to do with anything.

and for that matter, do you mean marvel comics?? if so, whata bout the super secret Disney invasion?????


and Brimstone, just who do you worship in Pathfinder??


and so now I end this post with a Question to the Most Esteemed Ed Greenwood.
which is your favorite deity in the pathfinder setting???

why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


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Brimstone
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Posted - 15 Feb 2010 :  08:15:45  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message
Cyric.

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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gomez
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Posted - 15 Feb 2010 :  10:59:43  Show Profile  Visit gomez's Homepage Send gomez a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

WHAM!



Coming from THO, I had actually expected a SPLUT.
Followed by a squelching, sucking sound, and sfdragon in a meek voice asking for a hot bath and a scrub down.

Btw, going with how magic items were generally affected by the spellplague, I'd speculate that the scrolls are still around. They may be of less import now, as the power they promise (as I understood it) seems with the disappearance of the Weave, now also achievable through diligent study.

Again, speculation, for now.

Gomez
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