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Markustay
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Posted - 14 Mar 2009 :  17:00:43  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Indeed. I've learned not to make assumptions about year names on the Roll. And since I started the little project of fixing the errors on the Roll, I've learned a lot of interesting things about some of those year names!
I had implanted an 'Easter Egg' in my CKC article revolving around 1400 DR: The Year of Lost Ships (if you do the math in some of the time-hopping hints). I thought that was rather clever of me - tying a mixed fleet out of the Moonshaes to the rather odd colonization of the Utter East (and using the canon Umberlee's Fist to boot!) - but alas, the Spellplague/4e changes nuked my article. <sigh>

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly RupertI remember a few years back, discussing 1375, the Year of Risen Elfkin. While the elven Crusade is an obvious choice for the definition, I pointed out that it could have been something else entirely, like the birth of or the rise to prominence of a particular half-elf.

Someone - I believe it was Rich Baker (although it may have been SS) said they wanted to use that year, but then had to use the next one, because another author had already 'used up' the Year of the Risen Elfkin.

I remember reading that, and thinking "They are thinking up entire trilogies because of a sentence?! Just WOW...."

I prefer most of the entries be enigmatic, not RSE-amatic.

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Oh, and "more" is good. Sneak 'em in whenever, or just step forth and ask boldly. We LIKE bold sorts, here in this chamber of the Keep.
love to all,
THO
In your case, M'Lady, I would not be so base as to 'sneak' anything. I would ask, beg... perhaps even grovel... just for the chance to slip ye something.

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Edited by - Markustay on 17 Mar 2009 02:37:08
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Menelvagor
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Posted - 14 Mar 2009 :  17:45:22  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen:
How old (in human years) was that incredibly ancient elf in Cormyr: A Novel who had overseen the beginning of Cormyr and its rise to world (or at least "regional") power? As I recall, he was fond of wands and had fought the Purple Dragon at least once.


I'll admit I'm not Ed (and therefore will go to the end of the forming line) but you mean Iliphar Nelvenue, Lord of Wands. He was old. I beleive that at the time Cormyr was founded, he was a short time from passing to Arvandor. He appears at the beginning of Cormyr: a Novel, which was -400 DR, and last appears 205 DR. so he was at least 600+ years old. I'm sure Ed can give a more exact span- answer. I said answer. I did not say spank. I didn't!

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ranger_of_the_unicorn_run
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Posted - 14 Mar 2009 :  17:50:34  Show Profile Send ranger_of_the_unicorn_run a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar

Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by ranger_of_the_unicorn_run
This is the list I have. I think I have all of the guesses, but I'm not positive.

Incorrect guesses:

Alaphondar
Giogioni Wyvernspur
Vangerdahast
King Azoun
Valantha Shimmerstar
Elminster
Storm
Tessaril Winter
Glarasteer Rhauligan
Aerilee Summerwood
Laspeera
Garen Thal
Filfaeril
Volothamp Geddarm
Tanalasta
Alusair
Jorunhast
Dimswart
Thone




You missed out at least Myrmeen Lhal (I should know, I was the one who suggested her because I had shockingly run out of named characters to suggest (due to everyone else suggesting them)... )

I added that to my list, thanks for telling me. Maybe I should go back and search for all of the answers again.
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althen artren
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Posted - 14 Mar 2009 :  18:05:15  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message
Belts tightened, Scribes:

Is there some offical scribe for the Royals, or maybe some head of bodyguards that would
have written this? The bodyguards see just about everything you know. I don't know
nearly as much about Cormyr as I do Myth Drannor.

Also, I have a back history question. Ed, in the area that Larloch
has his fortress in, is there any back-history, maybe a dwarven or
elven fortress, or a mine, or something there before?

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Malcolm
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Posted - 14 Mar 2009 :  18:11:41  Show Profile  Visit Malcolm's Homepage Send Malcolm a Private Message
Darn. There goes my guess that Iliphar Nelvenue published the offending chapbook.
Seriously . . . time to start putting on the guessing cap. Bodyguards? Surely they'd see it AFTER it was published, and copies started surreptitiously making the rounds?
Hmmm...
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Markustay
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Maybe it was published by that false King - didn't he end up in Ravenloft or something?

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 14 Mar 2009 :  19:13:16  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Maybe it was published by that false King - didn't he end up in Ravenloft or something?



Gondegal did wind up in Ravenloft. And the market for such a chapbook is much, much smaller there.

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Penknight
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Posted - 14 Mar 2009 :  20:31:23  Show Profile Send Penknight a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Maybe it was published by that false King - didn't he end up in Ravenloft or something?

Wooly's correct. He wound up in Ravenloft, changed alignment, found himself a girl, and became a member of the Circle... a Knight of the Shadows. I myself have a character that's a Knight of the Shadows. I can't wait till Halloween to play him again; it's a seasonal campaign though we play it sometimes on Friday the 13th or during really bad storms. Adds a lot of flavor.

Oh, he's on page 144 of the Ravenloft Gazeteer Volume II if that helps anyone, by the way.

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bobwriggins
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Posted - 14 Mar 2009 :  21:46:55  Show Profile  Visit bobwriggins's Homepage Send bobwriggins a Private Message
Dear Ed and To,

Thanks for the swift reply! My girls will be over next weekend so I have all week to try to flesh out your suggestions. Wish meluck!

Thanks again,

Bob
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The Sage
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Posted - 14 Mar 2009 :  23:42:41  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Maybe it was published by that false King - didn't he end up in Ravenloft or something?



Gondegal did wind up in Ravenloft. And the market for such a chapbook is much, much smaller there.

Wooly is indeed correct.

And to keep this Realms-related, I'll note that new lore regarding the "Lost King" was revealed in the Grand History of the Realms.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Penknight

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Maybe it was published by that false King - didn't he end up in Ravenloft or something?

Wooly's correct. He wound up in Ravenloft, changed alignment, found himself a girl, and became a member of the Circle... a Knight of the Shadows. I myself have a character that's a Knight of the Shadows. I can't wait till Halloween to play him again; it's a seasonal campaign though we play it sometimes on Friday the 13th or during really bad storms. Adds a lot of flavor.

Oh, he's on page 144 of the Ravenloft Gazeteer Volume II if that helps anyone, by the way.

And so long as you aren't particular about which edition you're drawing information from... you'll find a little more about Gondegal in the old "Black Box" for the RAVENLOFT setting.

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 15 Mar 2009 :  01:56:42  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
This, from Ed of the Greenwood and The Hooded One, to bobwriggins:

LUCK!


love,
THO
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Broken Helm
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Posted - 15 Mar 2009 :  02:10:17  Show Profile  Visit Broken Helm's Homepage Send Broken Helm a Private Message
So I come sidling up to THO, not wanting to get my behind handed to me for daring to "nudge" the Creator of the Realms, but I believe someone (not, he added hastily, me) asked for a clue or even two to be provided to flummoxed scribes, re. the possible publisher of the steamy Queen Filfaeril chapbook.
So . . . howzabout it? (Leaps back out of range, adopts wide smile of apology, grovels a bit for good measure, then sits up grinning like an idiot and panting like a dog.)
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Longtime Lurker
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Posted - 15 Mar 2009 :  03:38:26  Show Profile  Visit Longtime Lurker's Homepage Send Longtime Lurker a Private Message
Hmmm, I wonder if it could be an envoy/ambassador to the Court of Cormyr from somewhere less friendly than Silverymoon (such as Sembia, or Westgate, or Amn). Scribes, has Ed ever named any such?
Or what about those craven high holy men of Cormyr we saw at the end of DEATH OF THE DRAGON? Any of them lust after Queen Fee, or hold a grudge against her, or want to enrage any of the Obarskyrs for some reason?
Hmm, indeed . . .
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Longtime Lurker
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Oh, and move over, dog of a Broken Helm. I can pant and grin idiotically at the lovely Lady Hooded just as well as you can, and I hear there's room in the spanking line . . .
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Brimstone
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-I will lay on my back and let THO rub my belly!

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Markustay
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Posted - 15 Mar 2009 :  15:25:33  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
I hate it when his leg starts kicking...

Any way, I have a guess for the author - The Lark

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Edited by - Markustay on 17 Mar 2009 02:36:16
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 15 Mar 2009 :  17:35:25  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
As promised, some questions about books!

I was just looking at Krash's Book List for Tomes in Candlekeep, which builds on Steven Schend's Candlekeep Collection. There were three books that jumped out at me (actually more, but that was because of typos; I'm doubting Alusair wrote a book in 1239! ). These particular books jumped out at me because of their names, so I thought I'd see what lore you could provide about these books and their authors.

Memoirs of an Illithid-Human Crossbreed, by Naneetha Shinalstar, War Mage of Saelmur
Tavern Dancing My Way to Wizardly Might, by Jerenneth Ghalvin of Neverwinter
What Came Out of My Mouth Too Swiftly, by Jeremmer Hardree, “the Mad Jester”

As always, thank you for your time!

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gomez
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Posted - 15 Mar 2009 :  20:35:31  Show Profile  Visit gomez's Homepage Send gomez a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Gondegal did wind up in Ravenloft. And the market for such a chapbook is much, much smaller there.



He was one of the non-darklords detailed in the first release of the setting.
He was mentioned in the Grand History of the Realms, too, with a totally ridiculous attempt to portray him using some recycled image.
I liked the portrair with the drooopy mustache in Ravenloft.

I wouldn't say the book would be less popular there. It would be the next hot thing in Dementlieu.

Anyway, 'people known at the court of Cormyr' may actually contain a lot of people depending on how well they need be known...

How about Lady Tavernant? I just found her in Volo's Guide to Cormyr, and she is an noblewoman (hence would be known at court, I guess), eccentric, and can print her own copies... even if she didn't write it, I am sure she printed a few...




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Menelvagor
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Posted - 15 Mar 2009 :  20:58:00  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
Really, because I'd love to see info on this book, and what it contains: 'Why I Ride Men and Not Thrones', by Alusair. What were the reactions? Especially in Cormyr, by nobles, commoners, and family?

"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

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The Sage
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Posted - 15 Mar 2009 :  23:24:41  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

As promised, some questions about books!

I was just looking at Krash's Book List for Tomes in Candlekeep, which builds on Steven Schend's Candlekeep Collection. There were three books that jumped out at me (actually more, but that was because of typos; I'm doubting Alusair wrote a book in 1239! ). These particular books jumped out at me because of their names, so I thought I'd see what lore you could provide about these books and their authors.

Memoirs of an Illithid-Human Crossbreed, by Naneetha Shinalstar, War Mage of Saelmur
Tavern Dancing My Way to Wizardly Might, by Jerenneth Ghalvin of Neverwinter
What Came Out of My Mouth Too Swiftly, by Jeremmer Hardree, “the Mad Jester”

As always, thank you for your time!

Actually, Wooly's question reminded me of my own wish to learn more about some of the books on "Krash's listing" as well. Since I've slowly been adding to it, and trying to including most of the other references, particularly those tomes from Blackstaff and Blackstaff Tower, I've had plenty of opportunity to sit and think about which titles I'd like to hear more about.

So, here's my listing:-

- A Harper's Song by Alustriel, High Lady of Silverymoon
- An Ecology of the Planes by Garth of Suzail
- Anthropologic & Folkloric Histories of the Settled Lands by Carcroft the Long
- Ballads and Lore of One Dusty Road by Sharanralee
- Cormyrian Customs and Scandals by Aserglan Burtrann
- Fallen Legacies: Arcaeological and Historical Analysis of the Mere of Dead Men by Khelben "Blackstaff" Arunsun
- I Harp as I See It by Abranthar "Twoquills" Foraeren
- Lyres, Harps, and Horns: Sixty Years at Court in Suzail & Elsewhere by Aglasz Jhavildar, Sage of Suzail
- The Red Book of a Thayvian Mage by Thaelrythyn of Thay
- The Strings of a Shattered Lyre by Tammarast Tengloves, Bard of Elupar

Ed, I appreciate any lore both you and the Lady Hooded One can provide.

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quote:
Originally posted by gomez

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Gondegal did wind up in Ravenloft. And the market for such a chapbook is much, much smaller there.



He was one of the non-darklords detailed in the first release of the setting.
Yes, I believe I mentioned that already.

And in terms of completeness re: lore for Gondegal, you'll also find a little more info in the Ravenloft Gazetteer Volume II.

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althen artren
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Questions raised, scribes:

You must be losing you touch, Madam Hoody.

There are only three or four scribes in line.
I guess I'll have to get in line a second and
third time.

I was just kind of wondering about the Blackstaff.
What was his line of research when it came to the Seros
sea? Do you have knowledge or is this all SES line of
thought?
Can we maybe have a "unofficial list" of things he might keep
in a dead magic field?
How does Elminster like his quiche?
This might be something that I have asked before, but may I
have a description of the Frozen Forest? If I have, I apoligise.
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Ashe Ravenheart
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quote:
Originally posted by althen artren


You must be losing you touch, Madam Hoody.

There are only three or four scribes in line.
I guess I'll have to get in line a second and
third time.


Ahhh... she's not losing her touch. We're just patient and quietly standing in line.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

I hate it when his leg starts kicking...

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