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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  05:35:27  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Actually, Wooly's question reminded me of my own wish to learn more about some of the books on "Krash's listing" as well. Since I've slowly been adding to it, and trying to including most of the other references, particularly those tomes from Blackstaff and Blackstaff Tower.


Mine is updated also and I was thinking the other day about sending through the revised list. I'll have to get onto Alaundo and do so - once I've checked with Steven about some book dates.

-- George Krashos


"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Zandilar
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  05:42:49  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by althen artren
You must be losing you touch, Madam Hoody.

There are only three or four scribes in line.
I guess I'll have to get in line a second and
third time.




I can think of far better things to do than spank or be spanked... that's why I haven't jumped in the queue myself.

Umm... Question... Hmm... Are there any examples of demon/devil hybrids in the Realms? (ie: something that's half demon and half devil)... I'm pretty sure they (demons and devils) don't explode on contact, and there are examples of "risen" fiends of all stripes, so I think it's not beyond the realms of imagining.

I ask because in my home brew (Cresan) there's a big plot involving a faction of demons and a faction of devils who are working together (and creating a bunch of hybrids in the process)... I'm interested in insights (and ideas I can pinch) to make it hold together better... (It is Realms related, because Mystra hopped a ride in one of the NPCs when they and the PCs returned to Cresan. It was an attempt to avoid Cyric's murder attempt by establishing a presence for herself in another world.)

Zandilar
~amor vincit omnia~
~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.
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The Sage
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  06:05:46  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Actually, Wooly's question reminded me of my own wish to learn more about some of the books on "Krash's listing" as well. Since I've slowly been adding to it, and trying to including most of the other references, particularly those tomes from Blackstaff and Blackstaff Tower.


Mine is updated also and I was thinking the other day about sending through the revised list. I'll have to get onto Alaundo and do so - once I've checked with Steven about some book dates.

-- George Krashos



Could you possibly send me a copy friend Krash? I can then match it up with my own and, maybe, save you some further work. I've also got to follow-up on Steven's offer about providing me with some details about several tomes that he couldn't include in either Blackstaff or Blackstaff Tower. After all that, I'll send the whole listing to Alaundo for inclusion on the main site.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  06:09:27  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Actually, Wooly's question reminded me of my own wish to learn more about some of the books on "Krash's listing" as well. Since I've slowly been adding to it, and trying to including most of the other references, particularly those tomes from Blackstaff and Blackstaff Tower.


Mine is updated also and I was thinking the other day about sending through the revised list. I'll have to get onto Alaundo and do so - once I've checked with Steven about some book dates.

-- George Krashos





I did note a couple of oddball dates, like the aforementioned one with Alusair writing a book before she was born. Shall I email you those?

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The Sage
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  06:34:44  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
I'd like a copy of those "oddball dates" too Wooly, if you don't mind. Just in case I've missed any.

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Menelvagor
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  08:48:38  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
Oh, and for lore on books, I'll add a (possibly) final request:
What does A Small But Treasonous Chapbook, by Albaertin of Marsember contain? And why does it sound like something related to Filfaeril Bound and Walking?

"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.

"There are no stupid questions – just a bunch of inquisitive idiots."

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Markustay
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  16:38:06  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
May I suggest posting the list somewhere, where we could all contribute?

I have a small list of my own, mostly pertaining to books relevant to the east. I'm not sure if you'd consider them 'Realms enough' for Candlekeep, but I have a lot from Kara-Tur and a few from Zakhara.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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Jakk
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  20:45:40  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar

Heya,
<snip>
Umm... Question... Hmm... Are there any examples of demon/devil hybrids in the Realms? (ie: something that's half demon and half devil)... I'm pretty sure they (demons and devils) don't explode on contact, and there are examples of "risen" fiends of all stripes, so I think it's not beyond the realms of imagining.

I ask because in my home brew (Cresan) there's a big plot involving a faction of demons and a faction of devils who are working together (and creating a bunch of hybrids in the process)... I'm interested in insights (and ideas I can pinch) to make it hold together better... (It is Realms related, because Mystra hopped a ride in one of the NPCs when they and the PCs returned to Cresan. It was an attempt to avoid Cyric's murder attempt by establishing a presence for herself in another world.)



That's the best-kept secret in the multiverse... the demon-devil crossbreeds... they're yugoloths (formerly daemons, for those like me who remember 1E and 2E). At least, that would be a neat answer to the question... but I suspect that the yugoloths have their own origin story already... so we'll await Ed's response.

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.
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createvmind
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  21:24:15  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Hello All,

Ed can you speak on thayan circle magic, how it has impacted faerun since Thay's birth. My players have tackled a thayan wizard and turned her over to a certain NPC, this NPC is well warded but I want to know if the investigating red wizards, all currently in Scornubel seek their abducted companion using circle magic, what occurs. I assume circle magic would be potent enough to pierce a single mages wards, if not at first, then eventually but is circle magic something that would be "noticed" by those sensitive to weave within Scornubel? Is it a subtle manipulation or a kick down the door type of manipulation? Would size of Scornubel and multitude of magics great and small within city blunt the circle magic ritual?

Secondly, the mage npc in question is an archmage of respectable lvls, would he know that his magic is being breached by a 'collective' effort as opposed to just hostile magic? Is divination magic something Thayans are good at casting collectively?

Anything you could provide would be helpful, thanks.
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George Krashos
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  21:50:37  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I did note a couple of oddball dates, like the aforementioned one with Alusair writing a book before she was born. Shall I email you those?



I think I've fixed them all in my revised, revised list but please send them through. The Book List is like the Roll of Years: no matter how many times you read through it, someone always finds another snafu you've missed.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  23:24:25  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
Sage, Krash, give me a day or two. Comparing the original and the revised list, I'm noting some other oddities -- in fact, the odd dates that I was originally noting appear to be caused by a date getting shifted down one row. I've also noted at least one book on the original list that's not on the revised list.

Speaking of sending stuff to you, Krash, I don't believe I received the review of that article I sent you... (hint, hint! )

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 :  23:25:56  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
Oh, and a couple more books to add to my query.

On the Care and Feeding of Banites, by Melthras of Semphar
The Phoenix Prophecies, by Unknown
Words Spent On Little Fools: Instructing Humans, by Hamairathgauraundon, High Wyrm of the Crags
Yellow Stars Above My Grave, by Indrikh Darsiir, "the Deathless Gnome"

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The Sage
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Posted - 17 Mar 2009 :  00:07:01  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I've also noted at least one book on the original list that's not on the revised list.
Heh. I didn't notice that.

I, however, did notice a few errors with one or two of the authors listed as well, much like your example of Alusair earlier. I think the authors are correct, but with minor spelling irregularities that could've been caused by the transition from text to HTML. I'll take another look.

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The Sage
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Posted - 17 Mar 2009 :  00:12:12  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

The Phoenix Prophecies, by Unknown
Oh, I forgot about this one. Not only was I curious about the actual Prophecies, but much like the other books listed with "Unknown" authors, I was curious about what we could learn about the author as well.

And Ed, here's another three that I forgot to mention earlier. [That Wooly just reminded me of ]

- The High History of Faerûnian Archmages Mighty by Antarn the Sage
- Just Another Tome Among So Many: Last Leaves of a Librarian by Beldrim Bessart of Baldur's Gate
- Letters to Novice Court Wizards by Vangerdahast of Cormyr

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Markustay
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The Phoenix Prophesies were penned by the Herald Swordswreath.

However, he was just collecting and recording them for Candlekeep from MANY such prophesies created by the Abbalayar - the 'Arcane Prophets' of Calimshan.

The most famous of those prophets was Nar'ysr, and his Caleph Augeries feature prominently in the Phoenix Prophesies, the most important and cryptic of which are known as The Eclipses.

Empires of the Shining Sea, pg. 6-8

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 17 Mar 2009 :  01:21:42  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again, all. I bring fresh pearls of Realmslore from the quill of Ed of the Greenwood, but I can’t resist answering althen artren before I present them.
Specifically, in regards to THIS little comment:

You must be losing your touch, Madam Hoody. There are only three or four scribes in line. I guess I'll have to get in line a second and third time.

althen, dear, the scribes are lining up UNDERNEATH me. To save time, you understand. I’d invite you to reach down and feel around to verify that, but some males tend to be, er, squeamish about that sort of thing. (Muffled scream: “He touched my Rod of Lordly Might! He touched it!”)
Ahem.
(Now if you can’t behave, boys, then neither can I. I’ll be over here with Zandilar.)
Now, on to the words of Ed!
Who, curiously enough, also has words for you, althen. To whit, in response to this query of yours: “Ed, in the area that Larloch has his fortress in, is there any back-history, maybe a dwarven or elven fortress, or a mine, or something there before?”
Ed replies:



Yes, Larloch’s Crypt (“Warlock’s Crypt”) actually began as several gnome “strongholds” dug into the southern flanks of the hills, nigh the seashore. Their numbers dwindled under repeated attacks from many foes (goblinkin prominent among them, but also a short-lived “kingdom” of leucrotta and local elves who believed all above-ground fauna belonged to them, for their feasting-spits, from deer to boar to gnomes who dared hunt sylvan beasties), and they were almost all gone (dead or fled to safer areas, such as the seashore south of Neverwinter, and in Velen Peninsula of Tethyr) before Larloch arrived and slew the last of them.



So saith Ed. Who also felt moved to answer this from althen artren: “How does Elminster like his quiche?”
Ed replies:



Raw, of course. :}
Now to be serious: Elminster likes open-faced, small hand-tarts (palm-sized quiches). Made with strong yellow cheese and meat (ham when he eats my frozen ones, bison or bear or moose when he picks through my larder, in that descending order; he made a quiche with fried Spam once, and loved it, though he added other things to soak up some of the salt). He decidedly does not like commercial quiches that are “All crumbling pastry and nothing much in it, look ye!”



so saith Ed. Who now passes on to this, from gomez: “Anyway, 'people known at the court of Cormyr' may actually contain a lot of people depending on how well they need be known...
How about Lady Tavernant? I just found her in Volo's Guide to Cormyr, and she is an noblewoman (hence would be known at court, I guess), eccentric, and can print her own copies... even if she didn't write it, I am sure she printed a few...”
Ed replies:



Right you are: ‘people known at the court of Cormyr’ includes a LOT of people. Let me just provide my first promised clue by refining what I mean by “known at the court.” It means they’ve visited it in person and been announced, more than once, not walked into the room as an anonymous servant or been mentioned by some courtier as some outlander of importance - - that is, important somewhere else. It doesn’t NECESSARILY mean they’re a frequent visitor at Court or well-known there.
And as for Lady Tavernant: what a great guess. Wrong, I’m afraid, but a great guess nonetheless. Almost wish I’d thought of her being the author myself. Right up there with Fee herself as the mysterious scribe. :}



So saith Ed. Who must have been eating his stamina-inducing somethings tonight, because he wasn’t done yet. He moved straight on to Menelvagor’s query: “Really, because I'd love to see info on this book, and what it contains: 'Why I Ride Men and Not Thrones', by Alusair. What were the reactions? Especially in Cormyr, by nobles, commoners, and family?”
Ed replies:



I’m glad you asked. (And in posts to eventually come, I’ll happily talk about many of the titles other scribes are curious to know more about the contents of, too.)
For this particular book, I want to clear up some misconceptions, and this is a handy opportunity.
It’s NOT a sex manual or a randy “steamy confessions for all” tome.
In fact, the title of this book was almost the most salacious part of it. It was not a (forgive me, scribes) blow-by-blow account of Alusair’s lovemaking or what she finds attractive in a bed-partner, it was a frank presentation of why she thought ruling a realm by gaining the trust and support of powerful or soon-to-be-powerful citizens on a personal, individual basis through shared experiences (NOT just lovemaking, but working side by side on shared tasks and projects for the betterment of the realm) was inherently superior to sitting on a throne ruling a populace by decrees, from a distance, through proxies (such as the Purple Dragons, the local Watch, etc.) Her Regency MIGHT have made this book a great irony from cover to cover, but didn’t, because she behaved like that as a Regent, too (no, NOT bedding everyone, though she did from time to time couple with “key” persons, as seen in “The Long Road Home,” my tale at the end of THE BEST OF THE REALMS Volume 2 - - but rather, establishing personal friendships with individuals of high and low station, all over the land, to, and listening to their complaints and suggestions and acting on them, rather than just manipulating them into being her local mouthpieces).
In fact, this book gained Alusair a LOT of support, all over Cormyr, because it was written in such an open, plain, emphatic style - - like someone standing talking to you, not in courtly “high speech” - - that everyone who dipped into it readily understood it, and because it had the ring of truth (the author really believed what she was writing), and the people liked the message. Some conservative nobles were horrified at the thought of “consorting with the lowest and most coarse,” and others winced at the thought that THEIR tenants might now expect them to behave like this, too. However, darned near everyone else, from clergy to Purple Dragons to old shepherds and millers drinking in local taverns, approved highly (whether they believed she’d ever “drop her steel groinsheaths” for them or not).
Her parents admired her for writing it, and openly said so, liking her philosophy and praising it. (Tanalasta’s reaction would of course have been to wince in private, and say nothing in public.) Courtiers are always diplomatic about royal writings (cue the Muppet movie THE FROG PRINCE, and the dignified announcement: “Prolonged applause”).
And of course, the young nobles she rode with were proud and pleased, too, because they now had something to wave at their parents and say, “See? I know you’ve been hearing about her rutting with all of us - - well, THIS is what it’s really all about! Saving the realm in the years ahead, so angry commoners don’t decide Cormyr can get along quite well without our heads still decorating our necks!”



So saith Ed. Who’s done yeoman service this fair even, dealing with divers queries, and now begs leave to go and sort and take out the garbage and the recycling.
So until next time,
love to all,
THO

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Jakk
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Hello, Ed, THO, and fellow scribes. It's me again, trying to tease a little more Cormyr lineage hints from the apparently airtight NDAs...
quote:
February 19, 2006: Hi again, fellow scribes. This time, Ed tries to give a useful reply to Nevorick's query: "Lady Herald, I will take thy advice and ask for small kernels of knowledge from the Sage, Ed. After thy whispers, what can Ed say on the Cormyrian Kings, Belmuth and Arathra?"

Ed speaks:

I'm afraid NDA concerns will render me much more terse than I'd like to be, but here we go:

<chop> ... I must warn that I'm not going to say much more about these monarchs, and not give much greater depth if asked about others, either, because although I'd love to share everything freely with all scribes of Candlekeep and Realms fans, I'm NOT going to imperil the chances of getting the lore of Cormyr featured in some sort of official WotC print publication.


I won't even ask about this; I know all concerned with getting this lore out to us are doing their best... as are those concerned with the opposite goal.
quote:
Nevorick, you must rest assured that the Lineage as it stands now (although we'll always want to add more detail to it, of course) presents a line of succession that has no holes in logic. Weirdnesses, yes, but everything's explained if you read the entire document - - and the scribes THO named have done yeoman service in that regard.

So saith Ed.

Who may be as curious as I am as to why these two monarchs in particular interest you, Nevorick. If you're interested in setting a campaign way back during their times, you'll have to concoct a LOT of information about the wider Realms around Cormyr yourself, and there's a dark shadow hanging over the Forest Kingdom that Ed's trying to avoid saying too much about. If you're planning to have someone or someones around today who's directly descended from either of these, forget it. That same shadow handily eliminated that possibility, although there are "loose end" Obarskyrs from this century who COULD serve that purpose, especially if the descent was illegitimate and secretive. If you were just curious about the stories of Belmuth and Arathra (because of their nicknames, perhaps), I'm afraid that's just what Ed has to be so sketchy about. Sigh. Let us parley.


Okay, now for my question: Can Ed say anything more now about that "dark shadow" hanging over Cormyr? I'm assuming it's not Nalavarauthatoryl or the ghazneths; they're old news when this question was first asked in 2006. Could it be, pray tell, the shadow that blotted out the wondrous illumination that would have been a 3.5E Cormyr sourcebook? If, on the other hand, this shadow is less metaphorical, I'm even more interested... <sigh> Whatever happened to the beauteous idea that more published lore is a *good* thing? I have some theories, but this is neither the time nor the place...

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

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Garen Thal
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Hmm. On the topic of who wrote Filfaeril, Bound and Willing, I'm going to venture an off-beat (pardon the puns) guess and say Aundable Inthré. No? Didn't think so.
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Markustay
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My best guess on that 'Shadow', Jakk, is that it has something to do with a very subtle curse that keeps the Obarskyr line lite of males.

The 'curse' itself may not be an actual curse - it could be something more insidious... like certain War-wizards 'pruning' the less-desirables from the lot, or even just keeping the numbers down to prevent civil war. I know of at least one War Wizard who killed a Cormyrian King to save Cormyr.

And I'm only taking a shot-in-the-dark here because me thinks Ed might have another NDA regarding this one.

Also, I was just wondering if you missed some posts, THO? We went through a few pages rather quickly. I had guessed The Lark as the author.

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Edited by - Markustay on 17 Mar 2009 02:44:17
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Ed and Hooded One, thanks for the wonderful lore on Alusair's book--that was a tome that had always stuck in my mind (along with some of the others that have been mentioned thus far).

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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You're very welcome. That comes from both Ed and me.
Oh, and to Markustay: sorry, I didn't miss seeing it but I did miss responding to it (things have been somewhat hectic away from the keyboard these last few days, for both Ed and me). Unfortunately, it's not The Lark. Sorry.
Nor is it Aundable, Garen Thal. Sorry again. However, both Ed and I like the way your mind works, on settling on such a guess.
Heh. This is fun!
love to all,
THO
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Menelvagor
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Posted - 17 Mar 2009 :  16:53:46  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
Thanks a lot for the lore!
Regarding the shadow over Cormyr: could it be that this shadow has anything to do with the current (4e) king's nephew (I don't remember either of thier names). It was mentioned in the FRCG that the king's nephew is quite evil. And if he wants to be king, it would make sense for him to kill off rivals.

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 18 Mar 2009 :  02:05:08  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again, fellow scribes. I bring you another omnibus Ed answer, to the following queries:
First, from Jakk:
Hello, Ed, THO, and fellow scribes. It's me again, trying to tease a little more Cormyr lineage hints from the apparently airtight NDAs...
THO quote, re. a Feb 19th, 2006 Ed response to Nevorick about the Cormyrean kings Belmuth and Arathra: “If you're interested in setting a campaign way back during their times, you'll have to concoct a LOT of information about the wider Realms around Cormyr yourself, and there's a dark shadow hanging over the Forest Kingdom that Ed's trying to avoid saying too much about. If you're planning to have someone or someones around today who's directly descended from either of these, forget it. That same shadow handily eliminated that possibility, although there are "loose end" Obarskyrs from this century who COULD serve that purpose, especially if the descent was illegitimate and secretive. If you were just curious about the stories of Belmuth and Arathra (because of their nicknames, perhaps), I'm afraid that's just what Ed has to be so sketchy about.”
Okay, now for my question: Can Ed say anything more now about that "dark shadow" hanging over Cormyr? I'm assuming it's not Nalavarauthatoryl or the ghazneths; they're old news when this question was first asked in 2006. Could it be, pray tell, the shadow that blotted out the wondrous illumination that would have been a 3.5E Cormyr sourcebook? If, on the other hand, this shadow is less metaphorical, I'm even more interested... <sigh>”

Markustay then posted: “My best guess on that 'Shadow', Jakk, is that it has something to do with a very subtle curse that keeps the Obarskyr line lite of males.
The 'curse' itself may not be an actual curse - it could be something more insidious... like certain War-wizards 'pruning' the less-desirables from the lot, or even just keeping the numbers down to prevent civil war. I know of at least one War Wizard who killed a Cormyrian King to save Cormyr.
And I'm only taking a shot-in-the-dark here because me thinks Ed might have another NDA regarding this one.”

Menelvagor then posted: “Regarding the shadow over Cormyr: could it be that this shadow has anything to do with the current (4e) king's nephew (I don't remember either of their names? It was mentioned in the FRCG that the king's nephew is quite evil. And if he wants to be king, it would make sense for him to kill off rivals.”

Ed now responds:



Menelvagor, it would indeed make sense, and that’s the obvious “adventure motivator” set up in the 4e Realms for DMs who want the nephew’s bid for the throne to drive all sorts of adventuring fun in their campaigns.
However, that’s a “modern” shadow. The shadow referred to by THO hanging over the reigns of Belmuth and Arathra is a quite different one.
Markustay, you’re right that an NDA still forbids me from saying much about the shadow in question, and I’m afraid your guess as to its nature is wrong (but at least I can go so far as to confirm that).
So, Jakk, I CAN’T say much of anything more now about said dark shadow hanging over Cormyr - - except to once more confirm what it isn’t.
It isn’t Nalavarauthatoryl or the ghazneths, and it isn’t a metaphor (or anything else) about something that may or may not have prevented the publication of a 3.5e Cormyr sourcebook. It IS “less metaphorical,” so I’m afraid you are indeed going to be more interested . . . but left frustrated by my inability to say more at this time.
What I can say is that there are obviously future plans (that my even come to pass) to say more about this dark shadow, somewhere and somewhen to come, and that the NDA and my own coy evasiveness center on desires not to ruin that future chance to say more.
Watching Gods above and below, I sound like a weaseling politician. Ale for all, this St. Patrick’s Day, and let’s hope you all forget what I haven’t said! :}



Er, so saith Ed. Who I know is BURSTING to say more, but certainly doesn’t want to ruin the chances of a certain someone telling a specific tale about a particular dark shadow at work (at some time or times unspecified) in the Forest Kingdom of Cormyr.
Gads, this cryptospeak is contagious, isn’t it?
We’d better (she purred, and winked once, slowly and languidly) switch to more non-verbal communication . . .
love to all,
THO
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Markustay
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Posted - 18 Mar 2009 :  03:00:27  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Thank you for that answer, and also for Ed's compliment in the reply before that.

As I said, it was only a shot in the dark (if you recall, I had asked about the 'heir-lite' Obarskyr line not too long ago, so thats definately something that peaks my interest, even if it is just happenstance).

Shadows... Mists... so may possibilities.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 18 Mar 2009 03:01:16
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gomez
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Posted - 18 Mar 2009 :  07:36:16  Show Profile  Visit gomez's Homepage Send gomez a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

We’d better (she purred, and winked once, slowly and languidly) switch to more non-verbal communication . . .



I'll get the whipped cream!

Gomez,
who has enough trouble with shadows in the Dalelands to worry about any in Cormyr...
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