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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 17 Dec 2008 :  01:56:07  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
So earlier today, I recommended the wonderful third-party book Faeries to someone... I recalled, after doing so, that one of the NPCs detailed in there is the Holly King, who has many other names -- among them, Kris Kringle.

This made me recall something WotC did for the holidays in 2001 and 2002: They presented us with a D&D Santa Claus, Nicholas the Gift-Giver. I tracked down the links, and I'm putting them all here, to make things simple for DMs wanting to do a holiday session.

Nicholas the Gift-Giver
Nicholas the Gift-Giver's Northern Palace
Gnome Toymakers
Gnome Cooks


Nicholas the Gift-Giver
Nicholas the Gift-Giver's Northern Palace
Gnome Toymakers
Gnome Cooks

Edit: Updating the links.

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Posted - 17 Dec 2008 :  02:03:37  Show Profile  Visit dwarvenranger's Homepage Send dwarvenranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's funny how traditional elves fit our thoughts of a gnome. I was musing on this the other day, when my buddy sent me a cool drawing of a bad mofo Santa.

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Lol. This is great! Thanks Wooly!

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Posted - 18 Dec 2008 :  21:02:17  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There really is a Santa Claus. I would, of course, be inclined to argue that mere stats could never truly do him justice.

Thanks for the links, Wooly!

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That's amazing! I'm going to have to find some people to play with so I can use that! Thanks for the link!
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Heh. I'll have to dig out the PLANESCAPE interpretation I had for Father Christmas as a Ring-Giver in a one-shot campaign I ran a couple of years ago.

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Posted - 20 Dec 2008 :  16:16:56  Show Profile  Visit Ardashir's Homepage Send Ardashir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

So earlier today, I recommended the wonderful third-party book Faeries to someone... I recalled, after doing so, that one of the NPCs detailed in there is the Holly King, who has many other names -- among them, Kris Kringle.

This made me recall something WotC did for the holidays in 2001 and 2002: They presented us with a D&D Santa Claus, Nicholas the Gift-Giver. I tracked down the links, and I'm putting them all here, to make things simple for DMs wanting to do a holiday session.

Nicholas the Gift-Giver
Nicholas the Gift-Giver's Northern Palace
Gnome Toymakers
Gnome Cooks



I have nothing against their version...

But I do wonder what Father Christmas might look like in 3.5 terms, especially if he brought his old pal der Belznickle/Knecht Ruprecht along as a bodyguard.
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Posted - 20 Dec 2008 :  23:45:01  Show Profile  Visit Sian's Homepage  Click to see Sian's MSN Messenger address Send Sian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
well dwarvenranger ...

i think it at least pactially comes from mistransation from Scandinavian ... we're calling them 'Nisser' which is interchangeable with 'Alfer' ... 'Nisser' is translated into Gnomes, while 'Alfer' is easy to misread as 'Elfer' which is Elves ... but whereas Gnomes are small 'spirits' protecting the farm, helping the farmer if they respect them, Elves are more whimsy, evil forestdwelling spirits which lures human males into thier hill and dance with them till they die from exaustion :p

what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 30 Nov 2009 :  04:23:34  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Despite the retailers breaking out the Christmas stuff a little earlier each year, I refuse to consider it Christmastime until I've had my Thanksgiving dinner. That meal is passed, my wife and I put up and decorated our tree, and the Bob Rivers CDs are next in my queue... So I can comfortably call it Christmastime. And since it's that time of year, I decided to resurrect this thread for another holiday season!

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Heh. I'll have to dig out the PLANESCAPE interpretation I had for Father Christmas as a Ring-Giver in a one-shot campaign I ran a couple of years ago.



I guess we are still waiting?

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What? You really didn't expect me to be on time with this?

I guess I'll have to go looking for it again.

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Posted - 30 Nov 2009 :  06:05:36  Show Profile  Visit Joran Nobleheart's Homepage Send Joran Nobleheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm going to enjoy using this information for a holiday campaign this year. Thank you for bringing this thread back out.

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Posted - 30 Nov 2009 :  06:09:04  Show Profile  Visit Joran Nobleheart's Homepage Send Joran Nobleheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh, I almost forgot, actually. Where would be a good place to have his northern palace at in the Realms? Any ideas or suggestions?

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Ahaha, this is awesome. Thanks for digging it up, Wooly.

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quote:
Originally posted by Joran Nobleheart

Oh, I almost forgot, actually. Where would be a good place to have his northern palace at in the Realms? Any ideas or suggestions?

Well, we could follow the Holly King's example in Faeries, and suggest a place for his workshop that resembles the Land of Eternal Winter. Say, beyond the Spine of the World. Or, perhaps, somewhere deep in the High Ice [preferably, away from the Smokeholes].

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Thank you Sage, I'll look over my maps and see what I can come up with. I really do appreciate the help.

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Santa also appeared as an "official" D&D monster in Imagine Magazine #21 back in 1984. We converted him over at the EN World Creature Catalog last year, but didn't quite get him finished until January. Highlights:
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

What? You really didn't expect me to be on time with this?

I guess I'll have to go looking for it again.




Ha-hem.

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Perhaps we should dig this out of the mothballs?

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Sorry fellow scribes, but I've been busy working on 2010's special end-of-year one-shot holiday-season themed campaign adventure.

I'm setting it around an alternate concept of Rudolph this year -- specifically, Ragnagord, the evil reindeer overlord.

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'Tis the season to return this thread to the front page!

I've checked out the links, and it looks like WotC has failed to break them (yet)... Enjoy!

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Thanks Wooly.

I would say the real/main/whatever 'Santa' should be in a frigid part of the Feywild, where his chosen (going by various names on different worlds - Nicholas on Earth, obviously). There would be planer portals (Feygates) that would lead to each world where he has a presence. Since each world would have its own individual Santa, that would explain why he has been called both a Dwarf and Elf in different regions. With the sheer number of worlds he could exist on, he could be of any race, ethnicity, height, etc...

Although the Orc Santa would be kinda scary, its the Illithid Santa I most dread seeing.

And now Sage has yet-another year to give us his interpretation.

Last year (or was it the year before?) I had planned an adventure for FR, starting in the Moonwood and proceeding to Waterdeep, based upon ALL of the Yuletide/Santa lore, including things like Frosty, Rudolph, 'The Bumble' (yeti), etc.

Now I'm thinking of a new spin, using Elaith Craulnober as my Scrooge, and a Hobgoblin Pa-Thom (Drummer) boy.

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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

And now Sage has yet-another year to give us his interpretation.
Hey, I have a reputation to maintain.

Wooly has his mischievous ways, and I, my unreliability. We play to our strengths.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

And now Sage has yet-another year to give us his interpretation.
Hey, I have a reputation to maintain.

Wooly has his mischievous ways, and I, my unreliability. We play to our strengths.



Ah, but the difference is, I put mine in my title. You should be Procrastinator Most High.

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I love it!

I'll make the necessary alterations. [I just need to remember how we do that.]

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Just don't put it on the 'To Do' list.

Geeze, I just thought of something... if Sage was Santa on some world, those poor bastards wouldn't get their toys until WAAAAAY into their afterlife.

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