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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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 Posted - 26 Nov 2008 : 19:38:49
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Well, Brooks did change the characters' names, used a sword instead of a ring, and, you know, used goblins instead of orcs
I read the French version of the Shannarah cycle years ago but I disagree with that Kaje'.
On the one hand, I did not feel it when I read the both books.
On the other hand, if the story could seem quite the same, the styles of writers made the both become very different stories.
Just my humble opinion through the translated versions of the books.  |
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Brynweir
Senior Scribe
USA
436 Posts |
Posted - 28 Nov 2008 : 20:41:44
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Originally posted by Arion Elenim
Thieves' World: http://www.thievesworld.info/
Good stuff.
I second that one - Thieves World could definitely fit right into the Realms. I love Hanse "The Cat" 
I also recommend The Rift Wars, but I really LOVE the Wars of Light and Shadow by Janny Wurts and the Cold Fire Trilogy by C.S. Freidman.
I like both of these series because they not only have really great descriptions that bring the characters to life, but they're very insightful about human nature and the thin line between good and evil. In some cases, it's all a matter of perspective and preferences. I think this idea fits in great with the pantheistic nature of the Realms. With no one all powerful figure declaring just what IS right and what is wrong, the line is much easier to blur. I love the idea that we as readers can see the mistakes being made and the flaws in logic, but the characters themselves can't see them - they really make me think... and the plots aren't half bad either |
Anyone who likes to read something that's really dark and gritty and completely awesome ought to read The Night Angel Trilogy by Brent Weeks. You can check out a little taste at www.BrentWeeks.com I should probably warn you, though, that it is definitely not PG-13 :-D
He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness.
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Baldwin Stonewood
Acolyte
34 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2008 : 17:18:19
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David Gemmel is one of my favorites.
His Drenai Series was his cornerstone before his untimely passing. Ranked in order of publication. Waylander was probably my favorite.
1. Legend (1984)
aka Against the Horde
2. The King Beyond the Gate (1985)
3. Waylander (1986)
4. Quest for Lost Heroes (1990)
5. In the Realm of the Wolf (1992)
6. The First Chronicles of Druss the Legend (1993)
7. The Legend of Deathwalker: Chronicles of Druss the Axeman (1996)
8. Winter Warriors (1993)
9. Hero in the Shadows (2000)
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Thielan
Acolyte
Australia
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Posted - 10 Dec 2008 : 08:58:53
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The Wars of Light and Shadow were definitely good, however it's a fairly long read though, and the writing keeps you on edge the entire time, there's lots of little climaxes throughout the each book.
The Cycle of Fire trilogy was quite good too.
The Shannara books: The Sword of Shannara, I will admit, is very like LOTR, you can definitely match characters up against LOTR characters. Howerver, Terry Brooks got into his own style of writing more after that one, and they're definitely different past that point.
Favourites would probably be (other than FR books):
Riftwar Books (Feist)
Farseer and Tawny Man Trilogies (Hobb) |
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ranger_of_the_unicorn_run
Learned Scribe
USA
292 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2008 : 11:34:54
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| It's by a Realms author, but not set in the Realms or published by TSR, but I really liked R.A. Salvatore's Echoes of the Fourth Magic. I haven't been able to find books two and three yet, so I can't tell you how those are. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2008 : 19:10:36
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Echoes of the Fourth Magic, The Witch's Daughter, and Bastion of Darkness. I enjoy this trilogy and RAS's non-Realms novels, but I did not think that this trilogy really had a Realms feel.
I also really enjoyed the Cold Fire Trilogy, and need to read it again. It has been too long since I first read it to decide if it has a Realms feel or not. |
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Brynweir
Senior Scribe
USA
436 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2008 : 19:49:08
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| Um... I can't really say that the Coldfire Trilogy had a Realms feel. Heh, I just sort of slipped that one in there because I like it so much . |
Anyone who likes to read something that's really dark and gritty and completely awesome ought to read The Night Angel Trilogy by Brent Weeks. You can check out a little taste at www.BrentWeeks.com I should probably warn you, though, that it is definitely not PG-13 :-D
He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness.
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Brynweir
Senior Scribe
USA
436 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 19:41:53
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| Anybody read The Night Angel Trilogy by Brent Weeks? I've just started the first book- I'm hooked BTW - but I can totally picture it in the realms. |
Anyone who likes to read something that's really dark and gritty and completely awesome ought to read The Night Angel Trilogy by Brent Weeks. You can check out a little taste at www.BrentWeeks.com I should probably warn you, though, that it is definitely not PG-13 :-D
He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness.
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Braveheart
Learned Scribe
Austria
159 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 20:56:37
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by MerrikCale
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
I believe Michael Stackpole's ONCE A HERO book might well have been a Realms novel, if he and the then-head of TSR's Books Department could have reached agreement on the terms of publishing it.
love to all,
THO
well, thats an interesting tidbit. I kind of like his Star wars stuff
I first discovered Stackpole thru his BattleTech stuff, and his books remain my faves from the series -- there are some other fave BT novels, but the majority are the ones he wrote.
I've only read one of his Star Wars novels, but I very much enjoyed it. One of these days I'll have to track down the Rogue Squadron stuff.
Wooly's right on that one, also because BattleTech is a fairly detailed universe that compares to the Realms on a certain level - if you're not too picky about it having to be a fantasy setting
P.S.: R.A. Salvatore's Crimson Shadow trilogy was quite good as well... |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2008 : 22:32:47
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Originally posted by Braveheart
Wooly's right on that one, also because BattleTech is a fairly detailed universe that compares to the Realms on a certain level - if you're not too picky about it having to be a fantasy setting
Aye. And it's been an "officially published" setting just a little longer than the Realms, starting in 1984 with the BattleDroids game. Support for the setting is still very strong, with some exciting events planned to celebrate its 25th anniversary next year.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 24 Dec 2008 : 04:59:28
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Originally posted by Braveheart
Wooly's right on that one, also because BattleTech is a fairly detailed universe that compares to the Realms on a certain level - if you're not too picky about it having to be a fantasy setting
And an unfortunate similarity is that both settings were blown up, had a timejump, and wound up splitting their fanbases.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 24 Dec 2008 : 05:38:47
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Braveheart
Wooly's right on that one, also because BattleTech is a fairly detailed universe that compares to the Realms on a certain level - if you're not too picky about it having to be a fantasy setting
And an unfortunate similarity is that both settings were blown up, had a timejump, and wound up splitting their fanbases.
Yes, but the CBT universe, as evidenced through the MechWarrior: Dark Age novels, has pretty much returned to the state it was before the Jihad -- just with a few new aspects added here and there.
The Spellplague, I think, has had more impact and established longer-lasting effects on the FR setting as a whole, when compared to the similarly-styled "setting-shattering-event" in the CBT universe. |
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yargarth
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 25 Dec 2008 : 08:29:27
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| One of my favorite series is the Obsidian Trilogy by Mercedes Lackey and James Mallory. I also enjoyed the King Raven Trilogy by Stephen R. Lawhead. The Coyote series by Allen Steele IMO was superb. |
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Braveheart
Learned Scribe
Austria
159 Posts |
Posted - 26 Dec 2008 : 17:51:19
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Braveheart
Wooly's right on that one, also because BattleTech is a fairly detailed universe that compares to the Realms on a certain level - if you're not too picky about it having to be a fantasy setting
And an unfortunate similarity is that both settings were blown up, had a timejump, and wound up splitting their fanbases.
Well Wooly, that's exactly the discussion we shouldn't have here, but as Sage points out, the nations are still the same, the Clans (ok, kill off all those useless Homeworld Clans ), etc, even added some new flavours (Outworld Alliance and Clan Raven join forces - exciting! ). The Jihad added a new chapter, the Spellplague adds a new world and makes a lot of the old stuff irrelevant, because the realms no longer exist.
PM me if you want to discuss this in detail or lets set up a science group in some Off-Topic Thread |
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Faraer
Great Reader
3308 Posts |
Posted - 29 Dec 2008 : 07:59:16
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Apart from Ed's other work, and his direct influences like Guy Kay (a much more interesting writer, I think, than Jordan or Martin), I'd like to mention Ian Mortimer's non-fiction Time-Traveller's Guide to Medieval England. It's the kind of daily-life information I love reading about historical and imaginary places, a useful one-book reference for a world that readily informs the Realms, and an interesting model for what a Life in the Dales or Life in Cormyr sourcebook could be.
As for D&D, Gary Gygax published several novels after splitting with TSR. Other than those, major D&D influence in fiction tends to be something I avoid, though I suppose it's relatively benign in China Miéville. |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 29 Dec 2008 : 13:12:29
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Originally posted by Faraer
Apart from Ed's other work, and his direct influences like Guy Kay (a much more interesting writer, I think, than Jordan or Martin), I'd like to mention Ian Mortimer's non-fiction Time-Traveller's Guide to Medieval England.
that sounds interesting |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 31 Dec 2008 : 07:15:33
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It's both immersive and by all accounts reliable in terms of scholarship.quote:
1 The Landscape
2 The People
3 The Medieval Character
4 Basic Essentials
5 What to Wear
6 Travelling
7 Where to Stay
8 Where to Eat and Drink
9 Health and Hygiene
10 The Law
11 What to Do
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Andvari Tyrael
Acolyte
1 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jan 2009 : 03:36:26
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Hero and the Crown and The Blue Sword by Robin Mckinley.
They have a nice realms flavour with out being set in the realms. I always laughed about the principal country being named Damar. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 01 Jan 2009 : 17:39:44
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Yes! Superb books, beloved by Ed and me. Deservedly classics!
love,
THO |
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