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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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 Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 02:42:04
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Hi again, everyone. This time I bring a brief reply from Ed to sfdragon's query (from July 5th of this year): "hey I have a deranged question. what is the abilities of the true blackstaff??? and its history"
Ed replies:
Sorry, sfdragon, but that's all NDA. Thanks to future fiction possibilities (and not just mine own; Steven Schend, for one, would not want me to Spill All here, when tales could be spun from this in future). You might want to read his superb novels BLACKSTAFF and BLACKSTAFF TOWER for more about the true blackstaff. If you mean the item rather than the person, that's NDA too, for the same reasons. :} Sorry.
So saith Ed, creator of both The blackstaff and Khelben 'Blackstaff' Arunsun, though in his opinion Steven Schend "really brought them to life and now knows both best of all." (Oh, and Khelben has a brief cameo in THE SWORD NEVER SLEEPS, Ed tells me.)
love to all,
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 03:08:20
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Just in case anyone didn't catch the 4e Great Dale preview - the head-honcho demon was being 'nurtured' on the essence of a god by the Rotting man, but the plan back-fired and the Rotting man was slain.
The Demon wears a Horned crown. 
So... how many Horned Crowns do we know of that are associated with 'godly essences'? 
What happened to the item between SK and 4e is anybody's guess. |
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Viridian Vigilante
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 03:50:42
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| I've a few questions for Ed regarding the Eldathyn faith, or rather I'm looking for a few more details in addition to what is found in Faiths and Avatars or Faiths and Pantheons about the following: festivals/ceremonies (specifically the Greening as it is "The only calendar-related holy day of the church"),adventuring priests (how uncommon are they for the Eldathyn faith, are they primarily mediators of conflicts, healers etc) and are there any practices specific to the Eldathyn clergy in the Vilhon Reach area (influence of the Emerald Enclave perhaps)? Sorry if it's a little much to ask. Thanks. |
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Zanan
Senior Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 17:22:00
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
Ah, I'm such a naughty girl. Whip me, someone . . . (please?)
love, THO
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Cave quid dicis, quando et cui!
Gęš a wyrd swa hio scel!
In memory of Alura Durshavin.
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createvmind
Senior Scribe
490 Posts |
Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 17:37:15
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Hello All,
Ed would you say most of the frost giant's of the north have turned to Kostchtchie by 1370's or is their population too small to warrant his attention?
Are their salt-water crocs in Faerun and if so where? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 17:49:32
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Originally posted by createvmind
Are their salt-water crocs in Faerun and if so where?
In salt water, duh.  |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 18:42:21
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Hi again, all. I bring you Ed's response to sfdragon's question: "Does Ed think wotc would let him write an alternate what if novel that placed alusair as the ruler of cormyr?"
Ed replies:
Probably not; I've never asked, but having a variety of alternative "histories" would bring down design headaches galore and lessen the preceived importance of any Realms fiction ("Oh, so this doesn't really happen? Good, I don't need to read - - or buy - - it, then."), so it would tend to be a "no no" for any coherent campaign world. Tell you what: I'll pop that question face-to-face with certain Books Department folks at GenCon, and let you know what reaction I get, okay?
So saith Ed. Who hopefully won't time his question to coincide with moments wherein those Books Department personages are trying to swallow food or drink.
love,
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maransreth
Learned Scribe
Australia
157 Posts |
Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 21:01:08
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Usually my questions have been ones just to sate my imagination when I have thought of something, whereas my next batch of questions are actually for my campaign.
Ed, How would the average Faerunian (as in living in a village/town in the North or Heartlands) react to a cat person or dog person? The reason I ask is that in my homebrew world I have meshed D&D 3e with Monte Cook's AE and one of the players is a Litorian. Also the caravan they were escorting which got sucked through a portal contains Sibecca and Giants (Hu-Charad). Originally I was going to place the displaced caravan in a homebrew world, but due to lack of time looking after newborn twins, I thought it would be easier to place the group somewhere in the Realms pre 4e. Haven't thought of the exact year as of yet.
Next question is to do with arcane magic. The arcane spellcaster in my homebrew system is able to cast spells, but relies upon disciplines to enact other magical effects (if interested here is the class - http://members.iinet.net.au/~nutley/RPG/Mage.html). So question time -
How would Mystra react to a spellcaster from another world who uses magic differently to what she allows? I do not want to severely limit the player, but would like a general idea to Mystra'a reaction. Also I suspect that different organisations (re Harpers, Zhentarim, Red Wizard, etc) would also have an interest in said individual.
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gomez
Learned Scribe
Netherlands
254 Posts |
Posted - 09 Aug 2008 : 00:02:14
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
So saith Ed. Who hopefully won't time his question to coincide with moments wherein those Books Department personages are trying to swallow food or drink.
Unless, of course, he has a cam ready ;) |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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createvmind
Senior Scribe
490 Posts |
Posted - 09 Aug 2008 : 02:02:20
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 09 Aug 2008 : 17:41:08
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2008 : 02:48:21
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Hello again, all. This time I bring you Ed of the Greenwoods lore response to chance87, specifically to a query made in a post back at the beginning of April, this year (Page 24 of this years version of this thread): I've a query to toss on the pile: the recent questions about the pantheistic Realms practices got me to thinking. How slow are non-"in-the-know" folk of the Realms in accepting a new diety into the fold for veneration or propitiation? Over time, the various ethnic pantheons appear to have been folded into the Faerunian pantheon, and presumably, this still occurs to an extent in certain areas...the Shou expatriates in the East, as well as the Mulhorandi border with Faerun proper spring to mind.
Ed replies:
Hi, chance87. Sorry for my delay in getting to your question. The proper reply depends on how you define non- in the know folk of the Realms.
If you mean isolated dwellers in backlands or far from large communities of their own race, the answer can well be decades or most of a century (unless a deity sends an eloquent cleric or divine servitor into their midst, or sends dream- or prayer-visions to influential elders and other important persons among these rural folk.
If you mean slum-dwelling or just plain folks in caravan-route waystops, trade towns, and cities, knowledge of a new deity, or a change in divine status proclaimed by clerics, takes mere months. However, as one might expect, hearing of something and adopting it are two very different things.
Just as in our real world, some eagerly accept new ideas, or grasp at any idea that will better their current lot. Others like the status quo just as it is, or are by nature conservative (preferring the established, unchanging, and more comfortable norm).
In trade towns and all cities, there are cults (a hallmark of my original Realms campaign; one of the reasons there were so many gods is that a relatively small number of divine beings were worshipped in many different guises by many mortal beings, so one might stumble over a secretive cult in a cellar, upstairs chamber, ruin, graveyard, or hidden dungeon almost anywhere - - and when PCs did so, my players were forced to roleplay, not just rush in to hack and slay and rescue anyone lying on an altar, because they simply couldnt keep track of all the deities, and know for sure who was good, who was evil, and who was an utter fraud.
The young, the financially desperate, the oppressed, and thrill-seekers always gravitate towards new cults, if airs of secrecy and exclusivity (You Hallowed Ones will have the power of the Risen Xoblob working for you, while the ignorant swine who lord it over you remain blissfully unaware of the reasons behind your successes, and their own drifts down into misfortune and coinless despair!) are fostered, and theres violence and/or sex and/or personal financial gain and/or the spice of danger (but not TOO much danger).
So if a merchant murmurs to his friend that if he comes along some dark night to see something to our mutual gain, and they go masked and cloaked down mysterious tunnels to where the friend gets a momentary glimpse of a stunningly beautiful female priestess yielding herself on an altar to another masked and cloaked personage, and the merchant then whisks away the friend and promises him that the Risen Xoblob can reward him, too, if he but does thus and so, quite a few such friends will fall for the bait. (And if a friend cringes away, or reports to the authorities, the merchant denies all - - with the aid of some magics that guard his mind from pryings - - and the friend cant direct the authorities to the altar, priestess, or any evidence of the rites he saw.)
In this way, new cults are constantly arising and enticing new adherents in cities. A few of these cults are frauds, concocted to win coin and influence for a few (or cover for murder or something nefarious, such a treason or theft, arson, or other techniques of ruination practiced on a trade rival), but most are legitimate worship, born of a priests visions sent by a divine being cloaking him- or herself in a new guise, to win new worshippers (all sane folk of the Realms believe in all deities, but belief and propitiation are but pale beginnings when placed against fervent worship, and many deities face the problem of my parents worship just doesnt appeal to me, but dont want to lose the younger generation - - so they adopt a new guise to appeal to mortals who otherwise wouldnt favor them.
The Knights of Myth Drannor learned this lesson when they came across some bored, jaded young nobles who were bored and repelled by sex-filled whipping orgies of worship to Loviatar, purely because their parents had enjoyed and participated in them for years, so the rebellious younglings wanted no part of such old graynoses worship. (But happily plunged into sex- and whipping-filled veneration of Nathra of the Dark Kiss, billed as the true face of Siamorphe, that your parents cant handle.)
If a cult accomplishes local political successes, or a spectacular miracle witnessed publicly by many, they may swiftly achieve fad popularity through a city or town (but this may soon fade away, if the clergy cant show lay believers tangible rewards and benefits to following the new faith). More often, cults remain underground for years, slowly spreading through guilds, neighborhoods, and social classes until they dare to become public - - and only when that last step happens will non- in the know folk hear about them.
Merchants get many free or cut-price meals or drinks by telling the latest news as they travel about the Realms (and of course embellish as they tell, to gain more by their tellings), and in this manner, word of miracles, the proclamation of new deities, avatars or prophets doing things among the people, and major holy events spreads quickly across Faerūn. Again: acceptance, belief in, and devoted worship of are three different things, and mortals move from one stage to the next at different rates.
However, a commoner should hear something of the name, symbol, portfolio, and physical aspect and nature of a deity within a year if they are on a trade route or are regularly visited by merchants from afar, regardless of how far away in Faerūn the source of such news is.
By the way, Realms fans who dont want to include this or that detail of the divine changes first reported in the closing pages of THE GRAND HISTORY OF THE REALMS and since revealed in various places (FRCG coming up, just days from now) can easily use this approach to explain some of the news as wrong, distorted, or even deliberate falsehood, spread by some clergy to gain ground at the expense of others. As Ive said before at various times and places, how would any mortal really know the truth? Cant trust the deities themselves, or their avatars, or their clergy, or any bearer of news or eyewitness. Not that all of these sources are liars, but they may be mistaken in what they saw, or be deceiving even themselves (explaining things in terms of what they knew to be true beforehand). In 4e, the Weave is gone, and it collapses in spectacular fashion as a series of magical bad things happened that gained the name Spellplague. Thats ALL that mortals really know; everything else (this god dead, that one greater or lesser in power, this new one arisen) is all hearsay. Perhaps God X (missing from the pages of the new Forgotten Realms books) is really just using a new name, portfolio, and approach (the new God Y that does appear in those same books).
There. As Gary Gygax and I joked once, when DMing together at an early(-ish) GenCon: I Have Spoken, and It Shall Be So!
So saith Ed. Ending on a grander note than my wrapup, for once. Hell soon fall silent for the drive down to GenCon, scribes, and although I PROBABLY wont be able to make the con, Im going to try (so if I, too, fall silent, Im deceiving my bosses and working my way across America to drop in on Ed). If you should see someone winking at Ed and tugging at her nipples in a clear signal as she does so, it might be me. Or just another female gamer who is no lady.
love to all,
THO
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Uzzy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Aug 2008 : 03:11:06
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Nice quick question for Ed.
What does he think about the destruction of the Harpers in the 4th Edition Realms? |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 10 Aug 2008 : 04:09:20
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Heh. I already asked Ed that one, myself, a few days back.
And he replied:
Reports of the Harpers' demise are greatly exaggerated. More will be revealed in my next Realms novel (after THE SWORD NEVER SLEEPS). Suffice it to say that the Harpers got so infiltrated by undercover foes as to become compromised, so a trick was pulled that Elminster (for one) has pulled before.
The Harpers "disbanded," but a MUCH smaller and more secretive group of Harpers carried on. Eliminating certain false former Harpers was one of their ongoing goals. What their goals are now, few can say . . . for there are few Harpers indeed, and these days they say little, believing in "deeds, not words."
So saith Ed. (How personally angry he is, Uzzy, I don't know. Ed is a "slow to anger" sort; patience has been his watchword these past 49 years. As the Beatles sang, "Life is very short . . . and there's no time/For fussing and fighting, my friend")
love,
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Aug 2008 : 10:00:42
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tell the master of the greenwood my thanks
and thankyou as well THO |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2008 : 15:50:16
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Hello, all. I just received this e-mail from Blueblade, and am posting it here for all to see:
"Ed and THO,
Myself, I keep reading online comments about the Harpers as some sort of vast do-gooder army, and that view just isn't supported by the in-print lore. To me, they seem more like a cross between Aragorn as Strider (travelling alone and rough in the wilderness) and James Bond (has to report to superiors, may be given some fun gadgets, but operates essentially alone, or soon ends up that way).
Accordingly, I have a Realms question: Archendale is a notoriously hostile-to-outsiders place. Do the Harpers have any local spies or agents there? If, say, two armed Harpers came skulking into the place trying to track someone who harmed or slew an Arkhen, how much cooperation (questions answered) might they get from any Arkhen they approached?
Thanks,
BB"
Blueblade, off it goes to Ed for a reply. Myself, I'd say they'd have "eyes" among several elderly Arkhen, who have seen and judged the doings and effects of the Harpers (and continued to do so, not cling blindly to any loyalty). Arkhen might well help someone hunting someone who harmed another Arkhen, in my opinion. Yet we'll see what Ed says, of course.
love,
THO |
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Malcolm
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 10 Aug 2008 : 16:11:38
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Dear Ed and Lady THO,
Reading your reply to chance87, a question arises in my mind: in a spring or fall in Waterdeep (so, not in the height of summer crowding or the depths of howling winter, though in the latter I can see tenacious support just to "get us through"), how many secretive underground cults might be meeting on a given night in Waterdeep?
Pre-Spellplague, of course, before anything happens to Mystra. Oh, and I do mean meetings, not necessarily deities; in other words, are there rival or multiple groups of worshippers of, say, Talos? Or Loviatar? Based on ward or class or guilds or just friendships?
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Baleful Avatar
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 10 Aug 2008 : 16:18:32
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Blueblade's Net connection is down again, eh? Gotta love those handy public library computers!
My question for Ed is this: we've not seen any Ed lore in the Realmslore web column yet. I know Ed's really busy writing novels these days (I suspect because he gets paid decently for them, and game writing isn't well paid), but if the FRCG excerpts we've seen thus far are accurate in their level of depth, most Realms areas need another layer of detail. I know the Realms nay-sayers will start to complain about "too much stifling lore" or some such, but I'm talking stuff like this:
In Gontal, what does the general architecture look like? Stone? Half-timbered? How many storys tall? Streets dirt, cobbled, or something else? Roads between settlements: dirt and potholes, or what? Are those roads patrolled by armed authorities, or essentially lawless? What's the weather like, locally? How harsh in winter (or high summer)? What doe the forests look like (i.e. what trees)? How much coinage is in local circulation, or is there more barter and less buying for coin?
Y'know: BASIC stuff. That doesn't tie the hands of any DM, but just helps cover all the donkeywork so a DM can run a published adventure or easily make and run his own.
So, any chance of this? Ed? Wizards folks? Anyone?
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AlorinDawn
Learned Scribe
USA
313 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2008 : 17:04:52
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Ed & THO
Where is the Realms would one find the most advanced architecture? Which cities have the most fantastically complex buildings that "wow" visitors? And lastly, which city has the most bizarre? My queries are for surface cities, but if you think an underdark city would fit the bill feel free to include it.
Thanks again and see ya next week!
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Broken Helm
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 02:14:23
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Hi, Ed and Lady THO,
Malcolm's latest question made me think of one: are there any guilds in Waterdeep that would disqualify you for membership, or punish you, or frown on you, for openly and actively worshipping a particular god?
In other words, are there guilds and faiths that "don't go together"?
Thanks! |
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 02:18:55
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Got my computer working again!
Thanks, Hooded One, for posting my e-mail. I have (of course) thought of some more questions while I've been unable to surf to the Keep.
First: titles and offices in Cormyr that fall vacant of course revert to the Crown, so in theory a later monarch can hand them out again, to anyone else. Are there any exceptions to this? In other words, offices or titles that heralds (or "THE Heralds") would demand be held in abeyance for possible future heirs or blood descendants of a particular family or individual?
Second: Do the Obarskyrs own extensive properties or businesses outside the realm of Cormyr?
Thanks!
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A Gavel
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 02:22:59
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Lovely Lady THO,
I'm just curious:
Does Ed collect any of the Wizards minis? As opposed to just buying those that might catch his eye, or are of characters he created?
Are there any specific minis he'd like to see made? |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 02:25:09
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Yes, createvmind, there are Tome Dragons in the Realms, as I recall from chats with Ed. Your query goes on to him, of course, for a proper answer.
love,
THO |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 04:37:28
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Thanks once again, THO and Ed, for all the Realmslore. 
Now, some goegraphy stuff -
The first thing comes from Prayers from the Faithful - I've been going through and gleening new locales for maps, and I found a few that worked out nicely for my Erlkazar map. With one, however, I'm not sure what icon to use ; Carragar is mentioned on pg. 13, and the text makes it appear to be the name of a temple. However, that name follows Ed's usual naming conventions for towns, not temples (temples tend to have more self-agrandizing titles). The name of the priest involved is Evalus of Carragar, which also lends itself more to it being a settlement then a temple. Only the text imediately folowing his name makes it sound like a temple.
Anyhow, you may have answered these questions long ago, before I came around here, and I invite an Scribe to provide me with any answers they may know. Having just re-read The Annotated Elminster (the ONLY book I've ever read twice in one year), I'm curious about the locations of the Starn, Galadorna, Castle Felmorel, the hamlet of Ripplestones, the Kingdom of the Four Lords of the Castle (the adventurers that rescued El), and lastly, there was a High Duke Horostos mentioned - where did he rule?
I had thought the majority of the action in the novel (The Temptation of Elminster) took place around the Dragonmere (because of the Westgate scene), but then you hint toward the end of your 'notes' that the Starn may have been in Tethyr.
Any additional info you can give me on these would be greatly appreciated. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 19:31:39
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And yet another question for my own ever-growing queue... A recently resurrected topic made me think of this one again, and I finally decided to ask the top banana himself.
Why does the Faerūnian pantheon not have a god of mischief? As someone who likes the Trickster types, I've long wondered about this. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 21:24:59
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| Archendale: pssst, p. 225. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 02:51:39
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Hello, all. As for Ed, he's (sing together, now) "Off to see the Wizards, the Wizards, the Wizards/He's off to see the Wizards, wonderful gamers because . . ."
Which leaves me to pinch hit until * I * take off after him.
Hoping to sneak into GenCon and, ahem, surprise him. (Black lacy lingerie? Check. Thigh-high slit gown? Check. Flavoured rouge for nipples? Check? Ahem . . .)
Ahuh-ahem, as I was saying . . .
Wooly Rupert, in Ed's original Realms, Mask was one god of mischief (the nasty sort) and Lliira was another (the happy pranks sort). I think those aspects got "played down" because some TSR designers wanted to take this setting very seriously. (The elves, gnomes, and halflings all had deities who indulged in pranks, too, as I recall, as did the pixies and quicklings.)
Markustay, I'll leave Ed's olden-time geography questions for the Man himself, but I can enlighten you as to Carragar.
Originally, Carragar was the name of a now-long-dead holy man who founded the present-day settlement of Carragar (it was his hermitage, established next to a good strong drinkable spring, and before his death a hamlet of his descendants and like-minded worshippers). It is now, over a century later, a village-about-to-become-town dominated by a grown-from-the-days-of-the-mortal-Carragar community of priests. That community (and therefore the village) is centered around a temple, the Holy house of Carragar.
At least, so my handwritten notes say, copied from Ed's notes and what Ed told us (in-character) during play; for more details, we'll still have to wait for the return from e-silence of the Man Himself.
Lastly: the 2007 Spin A Yarn SHOULD be posted very soon, on the Wizards website.
I, for one, can't wait. Ed always manages to put together a tale that's a good read AND more than mere silliness.
love to all,
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 03:37:41
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
(Black lacy lingerie? Check. Thigh-high slit gown? Check. Flavoured rouge for nipples? Check? Ahem . . .)
Hehe... Looks like I'll have to add a few things to the Lady K's "shopping list" this week.   |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 05:07:30
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Thanks THO - at first I didn't think what you told me matched up to the text in PftF, but then I realized I was thinking of the word 'holy' from a RW point-of-view.
I'm sure Beshabans consider themselves very holy.
The only other point is that the text refers to a now-defunct temple, but then I remembered Ed's home games took place in the official Realms 'past'.
So everything fits.
I had already placed it on the Erlkazar Map as a Temple, and since the the settlement is (or was) still based around the temple, I will stick with that. Coincidently, I had placed it alongside a river, so the "fresh water supply" part worked out perfectly.
Thanks for your input - Mark |
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