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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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 Posted - 20 Jul 2006 : 18:20:10
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Fellow scribes!
I´ll start in this saturday my campaign in the Unapprocheable East. It will be more centered in the Great Dale and Thesk, and I pretend develop some plots with the Circle of Leth. The campaign will start in 1372 DR, and have a druid (and member of the noble family of Uthmere) as a character, so, my question is:
- There is something good to me in the novel Lady of Poison?
And there is some other good resource of information about the East? I have, as reference, Unapprocheable East, Spellbound, Champions of Ruin/Valor (Impiltur and Narfell matters), Starligh and Shadows trilogy, and Frostburn.
Thanks in advance
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 20 Jul 2006 : 18:29:01
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Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin
Fellow scribes!
I´ll start in this saturday my campaign in the Unapprocheable East. It will be more centered in the Great Dale and Thesk, and I pretend develop some plots with the Circle of Leth. The campaign will start in 1372 DR, and have a druid (and member of the noble family of Uthmere) as a character, so, my question is:
- There is something good to me in the novel Lady of Poison?
And there is some other good resource of information about the East? I have, as reference, Unapprocheable East, Spellbound, Champions of Ruin/Valor (Impiltur and Narfell matters), Starligh and Shadows trilogy, and Frostburn.
Thanks in advance
Yes, Lady of Poison is pretty good
Basically about a half-medusa priest of Lurue (sp?) and an "aboriginal" warrior from an unknown continent who battle with the Rotting Man...it covers the whole region you are playing in, and it's pretty cool on its own 
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 20 Jul 2006 : 19:03:02
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| Don't forgot the Dreams of the Red Wizards sourcebook. :) |
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RodOdom
Senior Scribe
USA
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2006 : 19:55:33
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Originally posted by RodOdom
There's also the nine-part article on Uthmere by Ed on the Wizard's website:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/archfr/rl
Yup! I have translated all the article and give it to the dalean characters as a handout. |
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RodOdom
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 20 Jul 2006 : 19:58:29
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*SPOILERS*
Lady of Poison involves three of the Blightlords, the Rotting Man, some members of the Circle of Leth including the Nentyarch, as well as locations and demons not revealed in the sourcebooks. Also it gives readers more description of the Mucklestone gates. |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 20 Jul 2006 : 21:33:22
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Originally posted by RodOdom
*SPOILERS*
Lady of Poison involves three of the Blightlords, the Rotting Man, some members of the Circle of Leth including the Nentyarch, as well as locations and demons not revealed in the sourcebooks. Also it gives readers more description of the Mucklestone gates.
Geeeeee!
One sole paragraph, and you made me make a request of this book.  It will come to my hands in two weeks. Thanks |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 20 Jul 2006 : 21:50:10
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| Good resources for the east. If you're looking for history resources, I'd recommend the 2nd edition Bloodstone Lands. I'd also recommend the Rogue Dragon series of novels, as they're based in the area (though they happen in 1373 I believe). Then there's spellbound (2nd edition) and Dreams of the Red wizards (1st edition). If you were going further south in Thesk there's a ton more on the red wizards and Aglarond in various resources. |
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EytanBernstein
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 00:57:39
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Originally posted by sleyvas
Good resources for the east. If you're looking for history resources, I'd recommend the 2nd edition Bloodstone Lands. I'd also recommend the Rogue Dragon series of novels, as they're based in the area (though they happen in 1373 I believe). Then there's spellbound (2nd edition) and Dreams of the Red wizards (1st edition). If you were going further south in Thesk there's a ton more on the red wizards and Aglarond in various resources.
The Last Mythal trilogy has some Aglarond info and the most detailed Yuirwood material I can recall. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 01:23:39
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I've REALLY got to get working on my East Timeline and get it out to the masses.
-- George Krashos
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 03:41:45
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I've REALLY got to get working on my East Timeline and get it out to the masses.
-- George Krashos
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 13:33:49
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Well, thanks to all of you for the good feeback!
Some of these books that you point to me, I have (Dreams of the Red Wizards), some I can use for a friend (Warriors and Priests of the Realms and Wizards and Rogues of the Realms), and some I´ll need to buy (The Last Mythal trilogy - hmmmm, information about the Yuirwood, eh? Good.).
In this campaign, I pretend to escape of the temptation of use the Red Wizards too much as antagonists. Well... they are antagonists, of course, but I pretend to do something more centered in the Blightspawned (when in the wilds) and in the Telflammar Shadowlords (when in the cities); and develop and central focus in the old mysteries of Narfell and Raumathar.  |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 13:41:19
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Originally posted by George Krashos
I've REALLY got to get working on my East Timeline and get it out to the masses.
-- George Krashos
 An... East... Timeline ?!? weeee
Dargoth, prepare the rack! And someone tell Lady Hooded One to catch the feathers!!!   (yes, yes, this one is "Candlekeep old school", but still works.  )
Jokes apart, this is something that I really want to take a look, George! As a lover of Timelines and history, I´ll wait eagerly to see this project of you!
And talking about timelines, I catch all the separate timelines of the nations of the East (that ones in the Unapprocheable East book), translated to my language, condensed in one sole timeline, include the important facts about the lifes of the characters, and give to them as a handout. They liked of it too much!
And, of course, I don´t included in this the events of the timeline of the east from the Lost Empires of Faerûn! You know, DMs sometimes want some drops of sweat in exchange for information! |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 17:11:29
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| Red Magic and Crimson Gold novels also take place in Thay. The Simbul's Gift novel might be useful as well. |
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 19:05:12
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Make sure to check out the Malar write-up in Faiths & Avatars.
There's details on a town in the Great Dale (blanking on the name) not included in the town's write-up in Unapproachable East.
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 19:46:19
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
Make sure to check out the Malar write-up in Faiths & Avatars.
There's details on a town in the Great Dale (blanking on the name) not included in the town's write-up in Unapproachable East.
--Eric
Thanks, Eric. I will take a good look in Faiths & Avatars (always a good resource). And it´s interesting the hint that the info about this city is in the write-up of Malar. I think that the druid of the group will have too many headaches.
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Originally posted by Kuje
Red Magic and Crimson Gold novels also take place in Thay. The Simbul's Gift novel might be useful as well.
Thanks, Kuje! Hehehe. I think that, with all that Realmslore about the east, I have the tools to make this campaign memorable.
Oooh, and I almost forget the upcoming Twilight Tomb!! I think that I will pre-order this adventure, only for the direct potential of usability to me! |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 21:20:55
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Oh yeah,
Speaking of Red Magic, those chars are also stated in Heroes and Villian's Lorebooks. The wizard is further mentioned, briefly, in Spellbound. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 01:44:24
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Originally posted by kalin agrivar
Yes, Lady of Poison is pretty good
Basically about a half-medusa priest of Lurue (sp?) and an "aboriginal" warrior from an unknown continent who battle with the Rotting Man...it covers the whole region you are playing in, and it's pretty cool on its own
The aboriginal man is Gunggari. Aside from a few obvious examples in the book, I wouldn't say that Osse is a direct translation of, or heavily influenced by, Australian Aborigine culture -- Gunggari's mannerisms aside (as well as his dizheri), the supposed "ways" of the Osse people could very well be associated with many other examples of Polynesian tribal cultures.
We assume that Osse is one of the "unknown lands" marked on the world map on pg. 231 in the FRCS... likely the larger continent at the bottom SE of the map itself.
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 13:04:53
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Originally posted by Kuje
Oh yeah,
Speaking of Red Magic, those chars are also stated in Heroes and Villian's Lorebooks. The wizard is further mentioned, briefly, in Spellbound.
Oh, that´s good. Villain´s Lorebook is one of the old books that I like more.
Chosen of Moradin, remembering how good was the npc descriptions in the old times... |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 13:15:37
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See Races of Faerun also for details on the mulan and rashemi -- two of the major human ethnic groups to inhabit Thay.
Yes! Races of Faerûn is a book that never stay more than 3 feet of my body, all the time. (One of my players is thinking that I´m trying to enchant the book, or something similar to this...)
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]Originally posted by The Sage
The aboriginal man is Gunggari. Aside from a few obvious examples in the book, I wouldn't say that Osse is a direct translation of, or heavily influenced by, Australian Aborigine culture -- Gunggari's mannerisms aside (as well as his dizheri), the supposed "ways" of the Osse people could very well be associated with many other examples of Polynesian tribal cultures.
We assume that Osse is one of the "unknown lands" marked on the world map on pg. 231 in the FRCS... likely the larger continent at the bottom SE of the map itself.
Well, this can be a good thing... or no!
So I ask: How are your feelings about the book characters? I mean, a half-medusa, a deep imaskari and an "other continent" guy? There is something good, interesting, or motivating in the book to validate a group so uncomun, or they are together only by the will of the author?  |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
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Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 14:10:40
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>>So I ask: How are your feelings about the book characters? I mean, a half-medusa, a deep >>imaskari and an "other continent" guy? There is something good, interesting, or motivating >>in the book to validate a group so uncomun, or they are together only by the will of the >>author?
My answer to this would be that, given the vast number of choices available to 3.5E characters, its only natural that the "classic" view of an adventuring party probably should change. I just can't envision any aasimar taking to a life as say... a commoner. Granted, Aasimar's are probably a small proportion of the populace (probably 1 in 50,000 or less?), but how many folk become adventurers (probably 1 in 5,000?). Granted, some Aasimar's might just become local constabulary figures (i.e. soldiers or law enforcement). Then you take into account the number of centaurs, minotaurs, half-ogres, half-orcs, tieflings, genasi, gnolls, hagspawn, drow, etc...... that turn to adventuring, and I'm betting half the adventuring parties out there are half strange. |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 15:29:05
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Yes, I understand you point. But anyway, we still are in need of a motive for the union of a group of characters so diferent between themselves. It´s not that I don´t like of the many options at our grasp now, but sometimes I have a feeling that there are more taers/half-something/dusk mineral shining elves/feytouched/anything heroes out there than damarans, chondatans, shield dwarves, gnomes and halflings.
But, again, I don´t have nothing against the new options, I only want to know if there is a good explanation to the characters in Lady of Poison are acting together. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 15:56:57
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Originally posted by The Sage
See Races of Faerun also for details on the mulan and rashemi -- two of the major human ethnic groups to inhabit Thay.
Yes! Races of Faerûn is a book that never stay more than 3 feet of my body, all the time. (One of my players is thinking that I´m trying to enchant the book, or something similar to this...)
That must make it difficult to shower... And I'm sure it's hard to explain on dates... |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 16:41:17
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That must make it difficult to shower... And I'm sure it's hard to explain on dates...
I leave the book out of the bathroom (but it´s dificult to pass on the Will save to do this. )
And it not so dificult in the dates... but in the wedding ceremonies... |
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RodOdom
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 24 Jul 2006 : 17:41:25
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Thanks for the link, RodOdom!
Now I have one more card to put on the sleeve! |
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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 24 Jul 2006 : 21:09:34
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Here are example stats for a Blightlord:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rp/20031105a
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 25 Jul 2006 : 01:34:54
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Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin
Well, this can be a good thing... or no!
Well, I've always assumed the term Osse is actually more of a joke, than a true Realmslore reference... but that's just me.
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So I ask: How are your feelings about the book characters? I mean, a half-medusa, a deep imaskari and an "other continent" guy? There is something good, interesting, or motivating in the book to validate a group so uncomun, or they are together only by the will of the author?
I might swing on over to the Lady of Poison scroll in the FR Novel section on discuss this, I think.
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 25 Jul 2006 : 15:09:52
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I might swing on over to the Lady of Poison scroll in the FR Novel section on discuss this, I think.
Good idea, Sage! I´ll move my inquiries to the proper forum. |
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