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Icewolf
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Posted - 03 May 2007 :  06:31:57  Show Profile  Visit Icewolf's Homepage Send Icewolf a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I'm helping co-DM an adventure coming up, and I would like to know a few things that I haven't been completely able to clarify.

1. Is it possible to transform a Dracolich into a Demilich? (Demidracolich!)

2. If so, where would be a likely place one of these creatures would base themselves from?

Kuje
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Posted - 03 May 2007 :  06:42:54  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Since I asked Ed about demidracoliches earlier in the year, there is one but it's NDA. :)

So, at least one exists but Ed can't discuss it.

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Icewolf
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Posted - 03 May 2007 :  06:46:31  Show Profile  Visit Icewolf's Homepage Send Icewolf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aha!
If its possible, and there's one, there's bound to be more.
Now, to create said critter
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Garen Thal
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Posted - 03 May 2007 :  06:50:23  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Icewolf
1. Is it possible to transform a Dracolich into a Demilich? (Demidracolich!)
In theory, "maybe."

While the demilich template can technically be applied only to creatures with the lich template, you can stretch things if you need to, for the purpose of story or just plain fun.

However, demiliches lose their natural attacks (in this case, everything except the lich/dracolich's paralyzing touch, so no more wing attacks, etc.), and you have to do some tweaking to the numbers to account for the differences in the lich and demilich templates.

A demidracolich would have to have a minimum spellcaster of 21, which means you need a very old dragon, or a reasonably old dragon with levels in sorcerer (or both). The numbers will work out to about a CR of 37--as an estimate--at which point the game has usually already broken down on a massive level.

As for where, a floating dragon head with massive spellcasting power can base himself wherever he likes.
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Dargoth
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Posted - 03 May 2007 :  06:56:46  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You know it kind of makes me wonder whether the Dracolich Eric Boyd put in Eye of Mykrul might be a Demi Lich

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Icewolf
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Posted - 03 May 2007 :  07:02:38  Show Profile  Visit Icewolf's Homepage Send Icewolf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

You know it kind of makes me wonder whether the Dracolich Eric Boyd put in Eye of Mykrul might be a Demi Lich



Given the right spells, the demidracolich could animate a regular dragon skeleton, sans head, and fool the adventurers.


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Na-Gang
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Posted - 03 May 2007 :  11:35:58  Show Profile  Visit Na-Gang's Homepage Send Na-Gang a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

You know it kind of makes me wonder whether the Dracolich Eric Boyd put in Eye of Mykrul might be a Demi Lich



Speaking of which: which issue of Dungeon was that in, please?
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Dargoth
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Posted - 03 May 2007 :  14:15:51  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Na-Gang

quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

You know it kind of makes me wonder whether the Dracolich Eric Boyd put in Eye of Mykrul might be a Demi Lich



Speaking of which: which issue of Dungeon was that in, please?



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Faraer
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Posted - 03 May 2007 :  16:19:08  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Bladewind
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Posted - 08 May 2007 :  22:55:34  Show Profile Send Bladewind a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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