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Jorkens
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Posted - 16 Feb 2007 :  10:31:51  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I was just wondering, has it ever been mentioned how the trollish lifespan works? I am especially thinking of old age and natural death. With their regeneration abilities it seems a little illogical that their bodies should slowly decline, but them being immortal seems a little bit illogical to. Do they simply reach the stage where their brain ceases to function or where their regenerative powers simply "burn out"?

Any one got any opinions of their own or facts that I have missed?

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hmm if I were you I would see in Dragon Magazine 301

Ecology of the troll

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Wooly Rupert
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As I understand it, aging occurs in the real world because the DNA eventually starts breaking down. As long as a creature is alive, its cells are constantly replacing themselves. But, when the DNA starts to break down, the cells are now replicating imperfect versions of themselves.

So I'd say that trolls that reach old age would still regenerate, but the rate of regeneration may diminish, and even with regeneration, they would still eventually die of old age.

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Jorkens
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Posted - 16 Feb 2007 :  19:41:13  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

As I understand it, aging occurs in the real world because the DNA eventually starts breaking down. As long as a creature is alive, its cells are constantly replacing themselves. But, when the DNA starts to break down, the cells are now replicating imperfect versions of themselves.

So I'd say that trolls that reach old age would still regenerate, but the rate of regeneration may diminish, and even with regeneration, they would still eventually die of old age.



Hm, yes that seems logical. Maybe at some point when the regenerative powers seems to weaken the other trolls will usually kill the old troll and eat it. Maybe some ritualistic thing, I can use that.

Thanks for the answers Victor and Wooly
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nbnmare
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Posted - 16 Feb 2007 :  19:53:48  Show Profile  Visit nbnmare's Homepage Send nbnmare a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I can well imagine the troll's regenerative ability causing the race to be far more susceptible to cancer than most other races. That's assuming cancer exists in the Realms, of course.
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Jorkens
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Yes, but if the trolls in some way learned about this they could (theoretically) rip out or off the body part in question. Even if it "killed" the troll the largest body part would regenerate the troll back to life. This would be the work of troll shamans if it were done. Then again, trolls might be to dim and uncaring to understand the disease in many cases.
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Bladewind
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Ouch! Savage medicine, that...

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Posted - 17 Feb 2007 :  11:42:44  Show Profile  Visit Iliphar1's Homepage Send Iliphar1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm just trying to picure that: My PC stumble upon a troll cancer operation/surgeon, carried out by the shaman with a big axe....

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Talanfir Swiftfeet
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quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

As I understand it, aging occurs in the real world because the DNA eventually starts breaking down. As long as a creature is alive, its cells are constantly replacing themselves. But, when the DNA starts to break down, the cells are now replicating imperfect versions of themselves.

So I'd say that trolls that reach old age would still regenerate, but the rate of regeneration may diminish, and even with regeneration, they would still eventually die of old age.



Hm, yes that seems logical. Maybe at some point when the regenerative powers seems to weaken the other trolls will usually kill the old troll and eat it. Maybe some ritualistic thing, I can use that.

Thanks for the answers Victor and Wooly



If as Wooly said in the real world aging happens when cells replace themselves with imperfect versions of themselves, so maybe troll cells replace themselves with imperfect versions and if a troll gets into a lot of fights and he has to regenerate bodyparts often, it may effect the rate of his aging.

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Tyr
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Posted - 26 Feb 2007 :  18:22:30  Show Profile  Visit Tyr's Homepage Send Tyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, it's kinda like Wolverine, where aging is either greatly reduced, so they can live for centuries, or the regeneration means they don't age at all. This is all depending on which source you read.
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