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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 01 Aug 2007 :  06:03:19  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, it didn't delve deeply into ancient origins for them, but for the most part I liked the associated information about the various churches and the like, and it fit in pretty well with how I envisioned it (especially the church of Deneir, for example).

I also agree that most truenaming study would likely be to gain enough ranks to cast various truenaming spells or take truenaming PrCs (which is how I envision introducing the concept into a campaign if I get the chance to work it in).

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EytanBernstein
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 :  05:28:18  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
New installment for Incarnum - http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/frcc/20070808

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 :  06:02:56  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
While I'm not a fan of Incarnum at all, I do like the way you tied it to heavy magic and the interesting twist of throwing Karsites into the mix. Very good job of throwing some good Realmslore into the mix, even if the system still kind of rubs me the wrong way.

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 :  12:59:21  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage  Click to see Chosen of Moradin's MSN Messenger address Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, I agree with KnightErrantJR. With good will, and a good search in some tomes of Realmslore, good results can be achieved even with some game aspects that we don't like to much. I really love the way that you manage the Incarnum aspect, Eytan.

A great job, indeed.

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EytanBernstein
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 :  18:32:07  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks. That was the reaction I was hoping for. This was a really hard topic to figure out, but I'm glad I found some solid Realmslore to work with.

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 :  19:47:03  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage  Click to see Chosen of Moradin's MSN Messenger address Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, I agree. In my opinion, even with the fact that I don't have a good grasp of Incarnum system, I find that this was the best Class Chronicles article until now.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 09 Aug 2007 :  01:21:28  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The numerous Karsus lovers on the WotC boards should be pleased.

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khorne
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 :  17:08:48  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage  Click to see khorne's MSN Messenger address Send khorne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EytanBernstein

New installment for Incarnum - http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/frcc/20070808

I'm not sure how I should feel about this. On one hand, I'm glad that Incarnum finally got a spotlight in the Realms, but on the other I'm a bit uncertain about how Incarnum has been changed for Faerun. Making Incarnum the raw energy of magic instead of the essence of souls somehow diminishes its essential "flavor", so to speak. It feels less unique when compared to arcane magic.

Or at least that's my opinion.

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 :  18:51:10  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage  Click to see Chosen of Moradin's MSN Messenger address Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But it make sense to me, for the fact that every facet of magic in Toril derive from the Weave, come from Mystra(with the exception of the Shadow Weave). It's only a diferent way to see the things, IMO.

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EytanBernstein
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 :  21:01:57  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by khorne

quote:
Originally posted by EytanBernstein

New installment for Incarnum - http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/frcc/20070808

I'm not sure how I should feel about this. On one hand, I'm glad that Incarnum finally got a spotlight in the Realms, but on the other I'm a bit uncertain about how Incarnum has been changed for Faerun. Making Incarnum the raw energy of magic instead of the essence of souls somehow diminishes its essential "flavor", so to speak. It feels less unique when compared to arcane magic.

Or at least that's my opinion.



My thoughts on this are that not everything created for core D&D can work exactly as conceived in the Realms or any other setting. I try to adapt everything with as much of its core as possible, but in the case of incarnum, there had to be some conceptual alterations in order to make it work within the framework set out in the setting. I don't feel it's less unique, but I do feel it's necessary to tie incarnum to the weave like all other forms of magic. Otherwise, it violates the basic tenets of the setting. I'd rather slightly "sacrifice the flavor" of something outside the Realms to make it work in the Realms.

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Skeptic
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 :  21:19:05  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EytanBernstein
My thoughts on this are that not everything created for core D&D can work exactly as conceived in the Realms or any other setting. I try to adapt everything with as much of its core as possible, but in the case of incarnum, there had to be some conceptual alterations in order to make it work within the framework set out in the setting. I don't feel it's less unique, but I do feel it's necessary to tie incarnum to the weave like all other forms of magic. Otherwise, it violates the basic tenets of the setting. I'd rather slightly "sacrifice the flavor" of something outside the Realms to make it work in the Realms.



IMHO, it was the way to go. Good job again.

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 11 Aug 2007 :  21:26:59  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage  Click to see Chosen of Moradin's MSN Messenger address Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Agreed!


Eytan, one thing that I don't see was the thri-kreen, in the psionics articles...
Why you don't include them?

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EytanBernstein
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Posted - 12 Aug 2007 :  19:51:52  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin

Agreed!


Eytan, one thing that I don't see was the thri-kreen, in the psionics articles...
Why you don't include them?



Thri-kreen were covered extensively in the Shining South book. Looking back, it would have been more complete to cover them, but at the time, the article looked like it would have been too long.

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ShepherdGunn
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Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  13:58:00  Show Profile  Visit ShepherdGunn's Homepage  Click to see ShepherdGunn's MSN Messenger address  Send ShepherdGunn a Yahoo! Message Send ShepherdGunn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know I'm late to the game, but I just want to thank Eytan for a great job on this article. I love it. I'm curious. Are the classes from the Book of Nine Swords going to be included in these articles?

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EytanBernstein
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 :  11:56:02  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ShepherdGunn

I know I'm late to the game, but I just want to thank Eytan for a great job on this article. I love it. I'm curious. Are the classes from the Book of Nine Swords going to be included in these articles?



Much appreciated. I am indeed covering them. I've got my FR experts going through them to check for Realmslore.

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ShepherdGunn
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Posted - 17 Aug 2007 :  08:55:37  Show Profile  Visit ShepherdGunn's Homepage  Click to see ShepherdGunn's MSN Messenger address  Send ShepherdGunn a Yahoo! Message Send ShepherdGunn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sweet! I have a little game I'm playing in, and I've got a Moonshae based Warblade. Curious to see what Realmslore you and your Experts come up with.

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EytanBernstein
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Posted - 18 Aug 2007 :  01:59:08  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ShepherdGunn

Sweet! I have a little game I'm playing in, and I've got a Moonshae based Warblade. Curious to see what Realmslore you and your Experts come up with.



I don't think I specifically covered the Moonshaes (not positive on this - would have to check), but it should be of use.

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ShepherdGunn
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Posted - 20 Aug 2007 :  14:30:39  Show Profile  Visit ShepherdGunn's Homepage  Click to see ShepherdGunn's MSN Messenger address  Send ShepherdGunn a Yahoo! Message Send ShepherdGunn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Say, any idea if WotC's going to post all the articles again? I can't find them now that the new D&D site is up.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 20 Aug 2007 :  15:20:02  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ShepherdGunn

Say, any idea if WotC's going to post all the articles again? I can't find them now that the new D&D site is up.



They're likely all still there, they just don't have the links archived anymore (or at least, at the moment). I just backtracked thru this thread and clicked on the first link I found, and the article was still there. I know from past experience that stuff can remain on their site for years, even when there is no link to it (I can still find the original Roll of Years file, from approximately 2000), so if you go back thru this thread, you should be able to get them all.

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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 20 Aug 2007 :  21:07:33  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is there any way for someone to compile the links so that I can download the articles?

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Victor_ograygor
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Posted - 20 Aug 2007 :  21:50:06  Show Profile  Visit Victor_ograygor's Homepage Send Victor_ograygor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I dont know if this can help

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Wooly Rupert
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They don't appear to be on his list... But if you scroll back thru this thread, you can find all of the links.

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Kuje
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Posted - 20 Aug 2007 :  23:29:05  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Victor_ograygor

I dont know if this can help

Kuje's FAQ of WOTC Links
http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=470527



Yeah and that hasn't been updated in over a year, plus a lot of the links are dated because of 2 or 3 server upgrades/domain name changes.

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EytanBernstein
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Posted - 23 Aug 2007 :  03:10:20  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My website has links to them all - www.eytanbernstein.com/publications.htm
Just scroll down to the Class Chronicles section.

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ShepherdGunn
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Posted - 24 Aug 2007 :  09:10:21  Show Profile  Visit ShepherdGunn's Homepage  Click to see ShepherdGunn's MSN Messenger address  Send ShepherdGunn a Yahoo! Message Send ShepherdGunn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Glad to hear that. With the whole WotC D&D site change, looks like they really didn't do very much in regards to migration to the new set up. (Being in the tech industry, I can kinda understand that it wouldn't of been easy)

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