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EytanBernstein
Forgotten Realms Designer

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Posted - 14 Mar 2007 :  23:14:26  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The first part of the warlock entry is uphttp://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/frcc/20070314. This one includes a novel tie in, courtesy of Erik Scott de Bie.

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 14 Mar 2007 :  23:23:07  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Eytan . . . I have to say I like your Glasya hook a lot better than the one that shows up in the Fiendish Codex II Web Enhancement . . . no offense to the author intended. I like the idea of other evil organizations within Zhentil Keep . . . I can already picture campaigns where PCs have to figure out who the lesser evil is, the Zhentarim or the Black Star.

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EytanBernstein
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Posted - 14 Mar 2007 :  23:36:34  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks. Much of the credit for the Black Star (if not most) goes to Erik's fertile mind. The basic idea was his and I adapted it a bit (with some help from George Krashos) to current Realms events and included the organizational format.

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 14 Mar 2007 :  23:53:49  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, Erik and George seem to be alright folk as well . . .

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Dargoth
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Posted - 14 Mar 2007 :  23:57:38  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I loved the new format for the warlock any chance you can go back and add a part 2 to the Duskblade, Knight, Beguilers and Dragon Shamans?

Id particularly like to see organisation stat blocks and example NPCs for those classes youve already done

Something interesting I noticed in the tone of your warlock article is that it was written as fact where the previous class write ups where written up as optional rules


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EytanBernstein
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Posted - 15 Mar 2007 :  00:06:09  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't know about second parts. Because of the novel tie-in, the folks at WotC gave me a much larger wordcount. As for the tone, you're right about that. Somewhere in the back of my mind, I realized that warlocks were one of those classes that could change the Realms more significantly than others. With the inclusion of a warlock in Erik's novel and as a reference in an existing Realms sourcebook, it seemed to me that it was time to make this particular entry a bit more factual. All of it is still optional, of course. It's a lot easier to adopt a factual tone when you've got a lot of room to include detail. In the other articles, there just isn't room for sample NPCs, organization stat blocks, or new feats. That said, I have described several new organizations in upcoming entries.

It's important to keep in mind that the articles are in a queue. I'd already written several entries before the next installment was released. I have certainly heard the feedback and have taken it into account, but by the time I received it, several of the articles were already written. That said, I think the ones after the PHB2 have been significantly better as a whole, but we'll have to wait and see.

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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 15 Mar 2007 :  01:57:37  Show Profile  Click to see Purple Dragon Knight's MSN Messenger address Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good job Eytan! I love the article!

Asmodeus' daughter in the Realms hey? now things are getting interesting, and my GREAT COSMOLOGY UNIFYING THEORY is being proven true!
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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 15 Mar 2007 :  02:43:49  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well done, Eytan -- looks gorgeous.

And I look forward to seeing the rest of your warlocks work in the weeks to come.

Cheers

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 17 Mar 2007 :  23:50:58  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage  Click to see Chosen of Moradin's MSN Messenger address Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

I loved the new format for the warlock any chance you can go back and add a part 2 to the Duskblade, Knight, Beguilers and Dragon Shamans?

Id particularly like to see organisation stat blocks and example NPCs for those classes youve already done

Something interesting I noticed in the tone of your warlock article is that it was written as fact where the previous class write ups where written up as optional rules





Eytan, expanding the question of Dargoth, any chance you can go back and add a part 2 to the Duskblade, Knight, Beguilers and Dragon Shamans here to Candlekeep, or maybe to a new edition of the Candlekeep Compendium?

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EytanBernstein
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Posted - 18 Mar 2007 :  09:49:19  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin

quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

I loved the new format for the warlock any chance you can go back and add a part 2 to the Duskblade, Knight, Beguilers and Dragon Shamans?

Id particularly like to see organisation stat blocks and example NPCs for those classes youve already done

Something interesting I noticed in the tone of your warlock article is that it was written as fact where the previous class write ups where written up as optional rules





Eytan, expanding the question of Dargoth, any chance you can go back and add a part 2 to the Duskblade, Knight, Beguilers and Dragon Shamans here to Candlekeep, or maybe to a new edition of the Candlekeep Compendium?




I won't say never on this sort of thing, but right now my mind is a bit tapped from the numerous additional articles. The first set was a learning experience and now that I know how it went, I have been doing a few things differently with upcoming ones. In other words, it's possible, but not at the moment.

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Faraer
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Posted - 18 Mar 2007 :  22:54:34  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Part of the discourse around Faerūnian knights is the idea that they're slightly anachronistic. The golden age of knighthood, as other things, is ever in the past, and their martial simplicity is (some think) slowly being outdated by the growing complexity of the mercantile, political urban world. Forgotten Realms Adventures:
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The sage Zeboaster (also known as the "sage on the run" after loudly and publicly proclaiming several poorly-thought-out opinions) has pointed out that previous multi-class groups such as the Knights of Myth Drannor indicate that the classic knight has outlived its time and stiffnecked chivalry is an anachronism of a simpler, more primitive past.
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EytanBernstein
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Posted - 19 Mar 2007 :  09:00:03  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

Part of the discourse around Faerūnian knights is the idea that they're slightly anachronistic. The golden age of knighthood, as other things, is ever in the past, and their martial simplicity is (some think) slowly being outdated by the growing complexity of the mercantile, political urban world. Forgotten Realms Adventures:
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The sage Zeboaster (also known as the "sage on the run" after loudly and publicly proclaiming several poorly-thought-out opinions) has pointed out that previous multi-class groups such as the Knights of Myth Drannor indicate that the classic knight has outlived its time and stiffnecked chivalry is an anachronism of a simpler, more primitive past.




I think you could argue (to a greater or lesser extent) that the same is true of numerous fantasy settings, Dragonlance for example. Either way, there will always be people who buck these trends in their world and hold to the importance of chivalry, honor, and tradition.

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Faraer
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Posted - 19 Mar 2007 :  18:41:15  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Most fantasy has a nestling effect in which it's simultaneously myth, taking place in illo tempore, in the golden age, and realist fiction happening in a historical present from which people can look 'back' into the mythical time. I think the knights thing is a manifestation of that.
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EytanBernstein
Forgotten Realms Designer

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703 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2007 :  20:15:27  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Second part of the Warlock article is up http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/frcc/20070328

Mod edit: Fixed the link.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 28 Mar 2007 :  20:32:30  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EytanBernstein

Second part of the Warlock article is up http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/frcc/20070328



...And they misspelled Erik's last name.

I really enjoyed this one. It's nicely tied into the setting, and there's plenty of material there that can be used as adventure hooks.

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EytanBernstein
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Posted - 28 Mar 2007 :  21:02:01  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by EytanBernstein

Second part of the Warlock article is up http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/frcc/20070328



...And they misspelled Erik's last name.

I really enjoyed this one. It's nicely tied into the setting, and there's plenty of material there that can be used as adventure hooks.



Indeed they did. I didn't even notice in my excitement, but now they you pointed it out, I couldn't help but laugh. Not at the misspelling of Erik's name because that's always annoying, but the change to "Brie." I know what I'm getting Erik for his birthday. Having had my name misspelled in 3 WotC product catalogs, I am very sympathetic.

Oh and the link doesn't seem to work right now at the moment. To access it, just go to the Wizards main page or FR main page.

Mod edit: Fixed the link. The period on the end was throwing it off.

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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

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Posted - 28 Mar 2007 :  22:12:16  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

...And they misspelled Erik's last name.


Bah! I'm inured to name-gaffes, generally speaking. "Debris" and "De Brine," "De Vie" and "de Vrie," all are welcome.

I hardly did much as an author on this part -- the most I did was glance through and give Eytan two enthusiastic thumbs up. He's the genius, not I, and he knows his warlocks.

quote:
I really enjoyed this one. It's nicely tied into the setting, and there's plenty of material there that can be used as adventure hooks.



Hear hear!

Cheers

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Edited by - Erik Scott de Bie on 28 Mar 2007 22:14:32
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EytanBernstein
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Posted - 28 Mar 2007 :  23:20:54  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The funny part is that Erik had a lot more input on the first part, but wasn't included in the by line. This one was almost entirely me (though Erik provided a lot of helpful comments) and he gets it here. At least credit appeared somewhere.

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 28 Mar 2007 :  23:21:13  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow . . . just . . . wow. I read this the day I finally got Dragon 354, and one day after getting Cormyr: The Tearing of the Weave. I'm on Realmslore overload here. This article was excellent, and not just because it gave Realmsian context to Warlocks.

A lot of these hooks are things that aren't just good for having some Warlock background, they are full blown Realmslore hooks that I hope get followed up on in future products/novels, etc.

I've been hoping for a while that Wendonai would get some follow up material, and the idea that you have tied Wendonai to the surviving daemonfey is brilliant. I really hope to see this whole thread followed up on.

I've also been a big fan of the Shadar-kai, so its great to see some Realms tie in with them as well. Of course, I had them pegged for Shaodwcasters when it comes to the newer classes, but I can appreciate Shadar-kai warlocks as well.

Loved the "return" of the Queen of Air and Darkness and Titania to Realmslore, and the extra fleshing out of Star Elves, their history, and their current events.

Great work once again Eytan.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by EytanBernstein

At least credit appeared somewhere.



Yeah, but it was kinda cheesy...


(Yes, I love the bad puns! )

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Bladedancer
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Posted - 29 Mar 2007 :  05:22:28  Show Profile  Visit Bladedancer's Homepage Send Bladedancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great work again Mr. Bernstein!

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Sian
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Posted - 29 Mar 2007 :  07:00:34  Show Profile  Visit Sian's Homepage  Click to see Sian's MSN Messenger address Send Sian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
found at least one error ...

under the part about Celadrin's

Warlock/clerics can't become eldritch theurges ... thats Warlocks/any arcane user :P ... the class your looking after is Eldritch Disciple

what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month
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EytanBernstein
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Posted - 29 Mar 2007 :  09:56:06  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sian

found at least one error ...

under the part about Celadrin's

Warlock/clerics can't become eldritch theurges ... thats Warlocks/any arcane user :P ... the class your looking after is Eldritch Disciple



I know why that happened. While I was writing it, I had just gotten finished talking with Ari Marmell, the guy who wrote those classes. He admitted that the naming of the classes had allowed a mistake and that they should be switched.. Regardless, you're correct. It should be eldritch disciples, not theurges.

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Sian
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Posted - 29 Mar 2007 :  13:32:35  Show Profile  Visit Sian's Homepage  Click to see Sian's MSN Messenger address Send Sian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
imho one of the classes should have a completly diffent name ... not that i have a good idea of which class it should be and what name it should be

what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 11 Apr 2007 :  05:43:38  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Next installment is up on WOTC's site:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/frcc/20070411

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