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Reefy
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 Posted - 09 Dec 2005 : 02:24:08
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Fenian
Acolyte
Japan
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Posted - 09 Dec 2005 : 02:26:07
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
More likely early 2008. My first-draft deadline is February 2007. I plan to have it finished and turned in about nine months before the deadline, but that is unlikely to affect release date. There's a lot more to scheduling a novel that simply receiving the manuscript.
 I was hoping for an earlier date but still its really good new  Miss Cunnigham the information of this novel would be appearing first in the WotC website or in your own website?
BTW its really an honor to meet you, even if it is through a forum, you are one of the best writers of the realms. |
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DragonReader
Senior Scribe
USA
371 Posts |
Posted - 09 Dec 2005 : 03:34:28
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
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Originally posted by DragonReader
Does anyone know when we are likely to see the book? Perhaps in 2007?
More likely early 2008. My first-draft deadline is February 2007. I plan to have it finished and turned in about nine months before the deadline, but that is unlikely to affect release date. There's a lot more to scheduling a novel that simply receiving the manuscript.
Thanks for the info. I will be eagerly awaiting this book as I have enjoyed all your work that I have read so far. |
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DragonReader
Senior Scribe
USA
371 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jan 2006 : 20:53:15
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I was just looking at Elaine Cunningham's website and saw that the working title for the final book in the Song and Swords series is Restoration. That is subject to change, but sounds like a good title to me.
In addition, on her blog Elaine posted her writing goals for 2006 which included three other Forgotten Realms projects:
1. A short story entitled The "Knights of Samular" for The Best of Elaine Cunningham anthology,
2. A short story called "Sisterhood of the Sword" which is not for any particular publication, and
3. An Elaith short story to submit to Dragon Magazine.
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Jan 2006 : 00:22:31
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Originally posted by DragonReader
I was just looking at Elaine Cunningham's website and saw that the working title for the final book in the Song and Swords series is Restoration. That is subject to change, but sounds like a good title to me.
In addition, on her blog Elaine posted her writing goals for 2006 which included three other Forgotten Realms projects:
1. A short story entitled The "Knights of Samular" for The Best of Elaine Cunningham anthology,
2. A short story called "Sisterhood of the Sword" which is not for any particular publication, and
3. An Elaith short story to submit to Dragon Magazine.
Looks like we have alot to look forward
Well met
Excellent news!  Many thanks, DragonReader, for bringing this news to us. Thy traveling bardic skills have paid off once again  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 12 Jan 2006 : 01:12:19
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Originally posted by Alaundo
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Originally posted by DragonReader
I was just looking at Elaine Cunningham's website and saw that the working title for the final book in the Song and Swords series is Restoration. That is subject to change, but sounds like a good title to me.
In addition, on her blog Elaine posted her writing goals for 2006 which included three other Forgotten Realms projects:
1. A short story entitled The "Knights of Samular" for The Best of Elaine Cunningham anthology,
2. A short story called "Sisterhood of the Sword" which is not for any particular publication, and
3. An Elaith short story to submit to Dragon Magazine.
Looks like we have alot to look forward
Well met
Excellent news! Many thanks, DragonReader, for bringing this news to us. Thy traveling bardic skills have paid off once again
Agreed. Most excellent...  .
I'm also very intrigued by this proposed "Sisterhood of the Sword". When Elaine returns, I hoping she could tell us a little about each work.
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Thelonius
Senior Scribe
Spain
730 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2006 : 20:35:45
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| So we finally have a title, Restoration, sounds quite intriguing to me, what is gonna be "restored" |
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Dart Ambermoon
Learned Scribe
Germany
253 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2006 : 22:31:39
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| Oh yes, yes, YES! Praise be to you, Finder, I knew you could pull it off...err...ahem...I mean this is most terrific news, yes, terrific indeed. |
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Smyther
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 12 Jan 2006 : 23:34:53
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| Off the top of my head, this says immediately to me: the Tethyrian Restoration. I think that Aralyn and Dannilo had some involvement with Tethyr, yes? I don't actually know if the tale of Haedrek/Lhaeo was ever fully told. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
892 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2006 : 00:43:07
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Or it could have something to do with Elaith's moonblade...
That was what sprang to mind first with me. It could of course just be talking about things in Waterdeep more generally though. Or even something to do with the Harpers or Moonstars. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 13 Jan 2006 : 01:29:27
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Or it could have something to do with Elaith's moonblade...
Or it could be something to do with Arilyn's moonblade, I seem to recall Elaine aluding to it actually being pretty disfunctional.
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originally posted by Elaine Cunningham on the "Ask Elaine Cunningham" thread
I see your point, of course, but there are reasons why Arilyn, a half elf of moon elf heritage, inherited a moonblade.
Throughout the Songs & Swords books, it is made very clear that Arilyn's sword is seriously FUBAR. It was dismantled after Princess Amnestria's union with a human resulted in two things: the creation of the elfgate, with disastrous results, and the conception of a half-elf child. In fact, Arilyn's conception and the creation of a new power for the moonblade were simultaneous events, and Queen Amlaruil never ceased to hold this against Arilyn. After King Zaor's assassination, a bitterly grieving Amlaruil decreed that the moonstone--a gem that acts as a conduit for magic--be removed from the sword's hilt and put into the keeping of Bran Skorlsun, Amnestria's human lover. The primary purpose of this was to weaken the gate between the mainland and Evermeet enough that it could be obscured and protected, but it was also a punishment--it effectively kept Bran away from Amnestria, who still carried the moonblade.
But tampering with an artifact is never a good idea--you can never been completely sure what the result will be. One of the unforseen results was the strengthening of the link between the sword and the child: Arilyn was linked with the moonblade long before she claimed it. Had the sword been whole, she could not have done so. This is never overtly stated, but the hints are there throughout the Songs & Swords books.
The misbehaving moonblade was a central plot point of ELFSHADOW, so it should come as no surprise that the sword was not exactly functioning as designed. The fact that Kymil Nimesin could further mess with the sword's magic makes it plain that its powers were seriously awry. Also, Arilyn relates to Danilo an incident from her youth, when she raised the moonblade against a young gold elf tormenter. The sword turned on her, which she took to be evidence that the moonblade would not allow itself to be raised against an innocent person. That gold elf's subsequent actions, however, made it plain that he was not an innocent. (Big hint to readers, there.) The moonblade was restored at the end of ELFSONG, and when we next see Arilyn, in SILVER SHADOWS, she temporarily returns the moonblade to a previous wielder. After that, (in the four-year interim between that book and the events of DREAM SPHERES) we are told that the sword became increasingly tempermental. Toward the end of DS, the sword turns on Arilyn and she was nearly fried. (Sound familiar?) She receives healing, but she's unable to wield the moonblade again during the final events of that story. It is assumed that the sword is defective--it is, after all, a tampered-with artifact--but it's also possible that the converse is true: the sword is slowly returning to its original state, and is functioning as it was designed to. What that means for Arilyn is a topic for another story, should such come about.
Now, stepping away from the overall series arc for a moment to consider the moonblade's role in ELFSHADOW. Giving Arilyn a moonblade was meant to emphasize and amplify the usual half-elf's dilemna of being neither fish nor fowl. Arilyn was daughter of moon elf royalty, the only part-blooded elf ever to wield a moonblade, yet most elves wouldn't give her the time of day. She is in a unique position, and that molded her into an extremely solitary person.
This point is undercut--nay, nearly obliterated--if every good-aligned gold elf, forest elf, drow, or half orc paladin of Sune with a heart of gold and tusks to match* is able to carry a moonblade.
Moonblades have become so popular and so common I half expect to see hand-written signs in the taverns of Waterdeep's Dock Ward to the effect of, "Good fish-scaling knife wanted. Will trade for moonblade."
But, it is what it is. Though the expansion of moonblades in game products does undercut the purpose of the moonblades as I originally envisioned them, I am keenly aware that it would be churlish to complain overmuch that ANY addition to FR lore that I've been priviledged to make has become "too popular." I'm just happy people want to read these stories, and incorporate some aspects of them into their home campaigns.
*Elaith's musings, taking from "Games of Chance," DRAGON #335
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 13 Jan 2006 : 03:16:58
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Magic Matt
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 14 Jan 2006 : 21:11:11
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It sounds fantastic, but we have to wait untill 2008!
Nooooooooooooooo! |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 16 Apr 2006 : 23:38:59
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Originally posted by Alaundo
Well the news just continues to get better and better This is absolutely splendid to hear. It appears that dreams DO come true afterall. ::opens up wish-list::
I was just thinking the same thing last night... hmmm no where did I throw that list of mine...
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Originally posted by Kajehase
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originally posted by Elaine Cunningham on the "Ask Elaine Cunningham" thread
This point is undercut--nay, nearly obliterated--if every good-aligned gold elf, forest elf, drow, or half orc paladin of Sune with a heart of gold and tusks to match* is able to carry a moonblade.
Yikes! No one tell Elaine about the new halfelf running around with a restored moonblade. ;) |
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
892 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2006 : 00:41:21
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Originally posted by SirUrza
Yikes! No one tell Elaine about the new halfelf running around with a restored moonblade. ;)
Aye, rather you than me. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2006 : 01:42:41
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"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 17 Apr 2006 : 04:45:11
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Originally posted by Thelonius
So we finally have a title, Restoration, sounds quite intriguing to me, what is gonna be "restored"
One correction: This is a "working title." An official title has not yet been decided. I'm post that info once I a) have it, and b) my editor tells me it's okay to share it. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 17 Apr 2006 : 04:51:10
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| Hi Elaine . . . I've missed you in my absense from the Halls . . . good to see you again! |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 17 Apr 2006 : 05:09:45
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Hi Elaine . . . I've missed you in my absense from the Halls . . . good to see you again!
And you, good sir knight. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 17 Apr 2006 : 06:39:15
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Hey Elaine are you going to try and wind up all the loose ends in "Restoration"?
Ie youve got Danilo/Arilyn/Lords of Waterdeep/Elaith vs Lord Hlune/Lady Thion/Sophie
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Brownyn vs Dag/Ashemmi/Gareth
Then theres the issues raised in Evermeet with the Elevn Royal family such as Elaiths Son, Lamuril new Elven kingdom and of cause Blackstaff not passing on the info to Arilyn about half brother (Come on Elaine youve got to include get that scene into one of your novels)
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 17 Apr 2006 : 07:31:49
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| Well atleast Arilyn and her half brother haven't kissed yet like certain other iconic sibblings that didn't know they were sibblings but the iconic wisemen in their lives new! :) |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Apr 2006 : 08:06:36
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What I think would be awesome would be Danillo and Arilyn's child to be a full Elf (mendel anyone?).
Can you imagine Amauril having the heir of the throne being born of a half-elf and a human?
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Shadovar
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Posted - 17 Apr 2006 : 09:28:24
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Originally posted by Charles Phipps
What I think would be awesome would be Danillo and Arilyn's child to be a full Elf (mendel anyone?).
Can you imagine Amauril having the heir of the throne being born of a half-elf and a human?
;-)
Danilo may have traces of elven blood in him thanks to his ancestry but he is still considered a human. Arilyn and Danilo offspring would be a human with some faint traces of elvish blood in their offspring blood but the phenotype(appearance) is definitely going to be human. This would be the more likely result of their union. But there is possibility of an elven child but it would be a very rare case and that depends on Correllon's will.
Amlaruil's heir must and have to be an elf in order for the People of Evermeet to accept the next ruler. A human/half-elven ruler won't last a single hour on the throne. |
We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 17 Apr 2006 : 14:40:14
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Hey Elaine are you going to try and wind up all the loose ends in "Restoration"?
Ie youve got Danilo/Arilyn/Lords of Waterdeep/Elaith vs Lord Hlune/Lady Thion/Sophie
AND
Brownyn vs Dag/Ashemmi/Gareth
Then theres the issues raised in Evermeet with the Elevn Royal family such as Elaiths Son, Lamuril new Elven kingdom and of cause Blackstaff not passing on the info to Arilyn about half brother (Come on Elaine youve got to include get that scene into one of your novels)
Suddenly I'm feeling very tired....
Some story threads from THORNHOLD will be resolved in a new story in the upcoming "Best of ec" anthology. A few more will be picked up in the final S&S books. Prince Lamruil's adventures and Amnestria's firstborn son are stories that, at least for the time being, will remain untold. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 17 Apr 2006 : 14:46:10
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Originally posted by Charles Phipps
What I think would be awesome would be Danillo and Arilyn's child to be a full Elf (mendel anyone?).
I don't think Mendel's peas could support this notion, and the elves of Evermeet certainly would not. :)
Even considering the possibility of a genetic sport (not the kind they report on ESPN, but a "throw-back" to an early ancester...), a full elf from two parents of mixed race isn't logical in the context of Realms genetics. With FR elves, the offspring of two elves of different subraces does not become half this and half that, but takes the racial characteristics of one parent. Thus, Elaith's daughter Azariah is a gold elf, even though he is a moon elf.
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Apr 2006 : 16:30:46
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 22 Apr 2006 : 01:39:12
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| Lol... genetic sports! |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 22 Apr 2006 : 01:45:10
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
Suddenly I'm feeling very tired....
Some story threads from THORNHOLD will be resolved in a new story in the upcoming "Best of ec" anthology. A few more will be picked up in the final S&S books. Prince Lamruil's adventures and Amnestria's firstborn son are stories that, at least for the time being, will remain untold.
Don't feel tired! We're all glad to see you again in print in the Realms again! There's only so much 1 book can cover and it is a S&S book on the table, not a harper book.
And so I don't die of joy I'll assume "books" meant book and that it was a hopeful thinking on your part as well that tagged on that extra S. If there's more then 1...  |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
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The Songs and Swords series continues....
