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Fillow
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Posted - 27 Dec 2008 :  21:03:07  Show Profile  Visit Fillow's Homepage  Send Fillow a Yahoo! Message Send Fillow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Calen

Yep it has been about two years since i was a regular reader. I kind of drifted off into other campaign settings. I will definately be picking up a grand history of the realms, but am very interested in the current events such as the hundred year hole. I have been hearing that it is a bit of a power grab from WotC


You may learn the most of the "why" and the "how" of these events by reading The Plague of spells, abolethic sovereignty, vol.1. It deals with the first years of the spellplague era.
(Got it but not read yet !)

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Jrez56
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Posted - 08 May 2009 :  03:30:18  Show Profile  Visit Jrez56's Homepage Send Jrez56 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello everyone, new user here.
I am looking to branch off a bit and read some new series within the Forgotten Realms. So far I have read basically the whole Drizzt series, the Cleric Quintet, War of the Spider Queen, The Lady Penitent, and the first three Elminster novels.
I was wondering what some of you would sugest I read next in terms of series. Also, in terms of Erevis Cale, which should be read first, the Sembia Series or the Erevis Cale trilogy?
Thanks a lot.
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 08 May 2009 :  03:52:04  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Elaine Cunningham.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 08 May 2009 :  15:00:06  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Seconded on EC.

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skychrome
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Posted - 08 May 2009 :  15:20:25  Show Profile  Visit skychrome's Homepage Send skychrome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jrez56
Also, in terms of Erevis Cale, which should be read first, the Sembia Series or the Erevis Cale trilogy?
Thanks a lot.



Elaine certainly has some good novels. Paul Kemp too.
If you are interested in Erevis Cale, the best way would be to read Halls of Stormweather (very good mix of Sembian short stories) and then Shadow's Witness (which is a deeper introduction to Erevis Cale).
You can also start Erevis Cale Trilogy directly without a problem, but I would recommend the two books before that to maximize the reading experience.
In my personal opinion the Erevis Cale trilogy is the best I have read so far in the Realms.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Seconded on EC.



I always recommend Elaine's stuff to people. Also, if it can be found, Jeff Grubb and Kate Novak's stuff.

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The Sage
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I'll jump on the "Elaine Cunningham recommendation train." Especially those novels that feature my favourite Realms character -- Danilo Thann!

I'll recommend Steven Schend's books too -- Blackstaff and Blackstaff Tower.

And a little apart from a series in and off itself -- Erik Scott de Bie's stuff.

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KingLouis
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Posted - 22 May 2009 :  11:48:13  Show Profile  Visit KingLouis's Homepage Send KingLouis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi everyone, another new member here :D

A big fan of the CRPGs BG1, BG2, TOB and PST - these games started me on my first FR series Avatar. I just finished Icewind Dale Trilogy and about to start the Dark Elf Trilogy :)

Here's a question for the more experienced FRers: Throughout the last couple of months I usually check this bargain book shop for FR books and have picked up bits and pieces of various books. I have parts of the Watercourse series, Wizard series, Last Mythal series, 1 of the Knights Of Myth Drannor duology.

I'm planning on purchasing the remaining books of these series - but I was wondering if I should do that first, or get my fingers in some other FR series first like the popular Songs & Swords, Cities, Finder's Stone, etc. that have been recommended by everyone.

Also should I read War of the Spider Queen after the Drizzt books?

"I guess enough painkillers can make even the worst kind of hurt go away. The thing you need to know is that Mara was innocent, and Jackson was innocent - they didn't know what they were drinking and their last moments together were happy ones. They left the way I first found them - perfect and innocent. They were innocent and they're in heaven now and we'll always be a family. The guilty ones are me and Vic, Vic led but I kept following. I don't think one's worse than the other but we made each other into something worse than our individual selves. I wish I never met him. I see it all now - there's no apologies I can make, no explanations I can give - I was who I was and I can't be that person anymore. I can't let myself..." Shane Vendrell
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edappel
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Posted - 22 May 2009 :  13:33:57  Show Profile  Click to see edappel's MSN Messenger address Send edappel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
War of the Spider Queen doesn't need to be after Drizz books... It's an absolutely different story.
That's a good series to get known some of those good authors that FR have.

I think you should read anything that looks good for you... RAS books, Songs & Shadows, Finder's stone, Erevis Cale Trilogy, gateway to Sembia, The Haunted Lands, Year of the Rogue Dragon, Cities, Wizards, Waterdeep, Last Mythal, any Anthologies, Ed's, War of the Spider queen, Avatar Series... Just choose one of those and read... There isn't a recommend order, it only depends on you.

Good Luck and good reading.

--- Ed Appel

*** I'm a brazilian FR fan. So, feel free to correct my writing mistakes to improve my english.
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BEAST
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Posted - 22 May 2009 :  15:35:40  Show Profile  Visit BEAST's Homepage Send BEAST a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KingLouis

Also should I read War of the Spider Queen after the Drizzt books?

I would. "WOTSQ" discusses some characters who had been previously killed off in one of the Drizzt novels, Siege of Darkness, and helps to explain why the drow have seemed so quiet for a long stretch of time within the Drizzt series. It's interesting to see how Salvatore described drow society first, and then to see other authors' spin on it. It's about context, I guess.

BTW, check out the complete Salvatore Realms Chronology in my sig.

I'm a RAS-o-phile, so I'm no good for recommending other authors and works for you, though.

"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
--Drizzt Do'Urden (The Pirate King, Part 1: Chapter 2)

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KingLouis
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Posted - 22 May 2009 :  15:50:41  Show Profile  Visit KingLouis's Homepage Send KingLouis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Ed & BEAST! Will take all that into consideration.

I just ordered the Sembia series; Shandril's Saga; rest of Watercourse and Sellswords from bookdepository.co.uk (they got a 10% discount thing happening atm :D:D)

I just browsed through this thread and someone mentioned that Fighters and Rogues are series with standalone books. Is it the same with Wizards? I only have the last one and I've been holding off reading it.

Also with Sellswords, your chronology has it right in the middle of Paths Of Darkness. How would you recommend reading that? POD first then Sellswords, or follow that strict chronology? Reason I ask these questions because I hate reading spoilers in chronologically latter novels and have them ruin my reading experience.

Yeah, I'm a fan of RAS too, but not from FR initially. His books from the Star Wars universe were really good, and to discover he's a prominent author in Forgotten Realms was pretty cool :)

"I guess enough painkillers can make even the worst kind of hurt go away. The thing you need to know is that Mara was innocent, and Jackson was innocent - they didn't know what they were drinking and their last moments together were happy ones. They left the way I first found them - perfect and innocent. They were innocent and they're in heaven now and we'll always be a family. The guilty ones are me and Vic, Vic led but I kept following. I don't think one's worse than the other but we made each other into something worse than our individual selves. I wish I never met him. I see it all now - there's no apologies I can make, no explanations I can give - I was who I was and I can't be that person anymore. I can't let myself..." Shane Vendrell
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 22 May 2009 :  16:00:45  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KingLouis


I just browsed through this thread and someone mentioned that Fighters and Rogues are series with standalone books. Is it the same with Wizards? I only have the last one and I've been holding off reading it.


Yup, they're all standalone. All of the class books are.

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BEAST
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Posted - 22 May 2009 :  16:05:52  Show Profile  Visit BEAST's Homepage Send BEAST a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KingLouis

Thanks Ed & BEAST! Will take all that into consideration.

You're very welcome!

quote:
Also with Sellswords, your chronology has it right in the middle of Paths Of Darkness. How would you recommend reading that? POD first then Sellswords, or follow that strict chronology? Reason I ask these questions because I hate reading spoilers in chronologically latter novels and have them ruin my reading experience.

If you just want all-Drizzt, all-the-time, you can wait 'til later for "The Sellswords". Its events don't really have any bearing on the Drizzt Saga, as it mostly deals with Entreri and another interesting drow character. There is another major character in "Paths of Darkness", one of Drizzt's buddies, whose story arc is probably more important and should be followed, uninterrupted. So you you might want to read "POD" first, and then come back for "TS".

As far as spoilers go, though, I don't think you would have any probs reading these two mini-series in chronological order, though. Like I said, they don't really have much to do with each other, so you should be safe.

I like that you read "The Icewind Dale Trilogy" first, and then now are moving on to "The Dark Elf Trilogy". I think you will be able to better appreciate the development of the Drizzt character that way. Other than those two transposed mini-series, though, you can probably just follow the simple chronological order from here on out. That's what I would do.

And good luck tracking down the anthologies with the short stories! (I include Amazon links for the anthologies in the "Annotated" section of my Chronology, to help you to know what to look for.)

"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
--Drizzt Do'Urden (The Pirate King, Part 1: Chapter 2)

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edappel
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Posted - 22 May 2009 :  16:13:37  Show Profile  Click to see edappel's MSN Messenger address Send edappel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You're welcome Louis.

For me, The Sellswords should be read before Transitions... The latest book (The Pirate King) has some characters of TS.

But, I recommend trying other books than RAS. Two years ago, I was a huge RAS fan... Just read all of his books, ignoring everything else. Now I see that are many others authors that challenges RAS writing skills.

--- Ed Appel

*** I'm a brazilian FR fan. So, feel free to correct my writing mistakes to improve my english.
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KingLouis
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Australia
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  18:09:08  Show Profile  Visit KingLouis's Homepage Send KingLouis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My latest book shipment has arrived and I've had my nose in FR books for the last few weeks - been finishing a novel every 2-3 days :D I have to say that the Dark Elf trilogy was such a great set of books to read. I was worried that 3 books that focus solely on one character would be a bit boring but boy was I wrong :O Some very great characterisations and storytelling in Dark Elf.

I just finished Legacy Of The Drow, and starting Paths Of Darkness.

I have a question about this new Spellplague event. Browsing through this forum, it's kinda hard to ignore this event. I understand that it is something that is shifting FR from 3.5e to 4e (correct me if I'm wrong please). Is there an actual novel that covers this event?

"I guess enough painkillers can make even the worst kind of hurt go away. The thing you need to know is that Mara was innocent, and Jackson was innocent - they didn't know what they were drinking and their last moments together were happy ones. They left the way I first found them - perfect and innocent. They were innocent and they're in heaven now and we'll always be a family. The guilty ones are me and Vic, Vic led but I kept following. I don't think one's worse than the other but we made each other into something worse than our individual selves. I wish I never met him. I see it all now - there's no apologies I can make, no explanations I can give - I was who I was and I can't be that person anymore. I can't let myself..." Shane Vendrell
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Dart Ambermoon
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  18:22:27  Show Profile  Visit Dart Ambermoon's Homepage Send Dart Ambermoon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ahem...as far as I know there´s no actual novel covering it, but aspects of it are mentioned in several novels (Richard Lee Byers´"Haunted Lands" trilogy, Drizzt´s insights in Salvatore´s newer novels, the "Waterdeep Series", etc.)

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Fillow
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  20:29:52  Show Profile  Visit Fillow's Homepage  Send Fillow a Yahoo! Message Send Fillow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KingLouis

I have a question about this new Spellplague event... Is there an actual novel that covers this event?


quote:
Originally posted by Dart Ambermoon

Ahem...as far as I know there´s no actual novel covering it...


And what about Bruce R. Cordell's Plague of spells? Does it not describe this period in Faerûn?

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The Sage
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There are no actual novels that provide an in-depth account of the Spellplague event. However, some of the 4e FR novels, like Blackstaff Tower, Plague of Spells, and some parts of Richard Lee Byers' "Haunted Lands" trilogy, provide snippets and brief accounts from that time.

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skychrome
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..and The Empyrian Odyssey trilogy provides some background on how these events started. However, novels cover only some aspects of these events, so lot's of it is still left in the dark.

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KingLouis
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Posted - 07 Jun 2009 :  12:42:30  Show Profile  Visit KingLouis's Homepage Send KingLouis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So did WOTC just release their rules, and in the rulebook (or whatever it's called) there's a brief mention of Cyric misbehaving?

I guess I still got a long way to go before I reach the Spellplague event. It'd be a good idea to finish pre-4e novels first yeh?

"I guess enough painkillers can make even the worst kind of hurt go away. The thing you need to know is that Mara was innocent, and Jackson was innocent - they didn't know what they were drinking and their last moments together were happy ones. They left the way I first found them - perfect and innocent. They were innocent and they're in heaven now and we'll always be a family. The guilty ones are me and Vic, Vic led but I kept following. I don't think one's worse than the other but we made each other into something worse than our individual selves. I wish I never met him. I see it all now - there's no apologies I can make, no explanations I can give - I was who I was and I can't be that person anymore. I can't let myself..." Shane Vendrell
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cephet
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Posted - 09 Jun 2009 :  00:23:34  Show Profile  Click to see cephet's MSN Messenger address Send cephet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello :)

I'm new to these forums, and this is my very first post.

I first became interested in the Realms when I borrowed Neverwinter Nights 2 from a friend and was instantly hooked because of the complexity of the game. Neverwinter Nights 2 led me to buy Neverwinter Nights diamond edition, which I enjoyed even more.

I soon started reading about the Realms on the Forgotten Realms wiki and became interested in Larloch, and from reading on these forums somewhere I discovered there was lore on him in the Realms of the Elves book. I went to a book shop and they didn't have Realms of the Elves, so instead I purchased The Dark Elf Trilogy and thoroughly enjoyed it. This led me to buy The Crystal Shard, Streams of Silver, The Halfling's Gem, Legacy, The Starless Night, Siege of Darkness and Passage to Dawn. By the time I'd read Passage of Dawn I was rather tired of Drizzt, but not of the Drow, so I bought The War of the Spider Queen (WotSQ). From WotSQ I really enjoyed the first two books, though I thought the story went slightly downhill from there.

I've ordered Azure Bonds, Soldiers of Ice, Spellfire and Elfshadow from Amazon - thanks to what I read about those books in this thread. Soldiers of Ice REALLY appeals to me, and I think it is a book that I'll love.

Anyway, to cut a long story short, you could say that I (as a very new Realms fan) was dragged into the Realms by RAS's Dark Elf Trilogy, though technically I suppose it was Neverwinter Nights. The books did a superb job of hooking me and whilst reading them I was given a whole new outlook on good aligned characters who I previously thought were boring and uninteresting.

I think that either the Dark Elf trilogy or the Icewind Dale trilogy would be a great way to get a new reader into the realms. I doubt the later books would do anywhere near as well because I feel that you really need the background on Drizzt's character to appreciate how he got to be where he is. Drizzt's character is also far more interesting, in my opinion, earlier on before he gets too comfortable on the surface. Regardless, I enjoyed the Legacy of the Drow due to the dark elf lore I was able to acquire and it was an interesting and exciting enough story in its own right.

I feel you've got to give the readers an interesting character & storyline before you can get them interested in the lore aspects of the Realms; unless, of course, they're nerds like me. Someone who is entirely new to the Realms probably wouldn't be interested in a story which is too bogged down with lore, which I suspect Spellfire and the Avatar Trilogy would be... But I havn't read those books yet so I really shouldn't be commenting on them, I was simply reflecting on what I've read about them in this thread.
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Dart Ambermoon
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First off...welcome to these fine halls.

Secondly, while I agree that these trilogies are a good way to get into FR (and often the only way...for a long time those were the only FR books translated to German and I know of a good bunch of people that got into the Realms via them), however I think there are several "older" trilogies (like Azure Bonds, The Wyvern´s Spur, Song of the Saurials by Novak/Grubb; the Moonshae trilogy by Doug Niles or the "Threat from the Sea" trilogy by Mel Odom), as well as newer trilogies (any trilogy by Paul S. Kemp or Richard Lee Byers) that could hook you on the spot.
I also believe Elaine Cunningham´s work to be of such character/plot brilliance, that it would draw you in quickly as well.
There are also several stand-alone novels from the different series ( a few of the Harper Series besides Elaine´s or the fabulous "Ghostwalker" from the Fighter series for example), which I believe, would make a reader want more...and more...and quickly.
Another good way into the Realms is the Stormweather/Sembia series, although I feel some of the novels are far away from each other quality-wise.
But, as I said, I agree with you 100% (just had to praise some great novels here). The first bunch of RAS novels are an extremely good way to get hooked unto FR.
Most novels by Ed Greenwood (e.g. the Spellfire series) can be confusing, albeit being fantastic novels, if you´re new to FR and have no clue about it, just ecause there´s so damn much going on. If you´re a person that devours books and has read many fantasy novels, then I believe they will still strike a chord that leaves you yearning for more, but if not, they might be a bit overwhelming.
As to the novels you´ve ordered...get ready for some good times..those are some good ones. Azure Bonds and Elfshadow I would rate among the best, Spellfire is a good "Greenwood experience" and Soldiers of Ice, is a novel that often gets underrated heavily in my opinion.
I liked all of those very much.

~ In Finder I trust, for danger I lust ~

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cephet
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Thanks for the welcome.

Do you know why Azure Bonds is out of print? From what everyone's said on this thread it must be a masterpiece, one I really look forward to reading. I'm hoping it's not going to be out of print forever, considering how many people love the book, and taking into account the opinions here, it is a good book to introduce people to the Realms.

Some of Elaine's work is on my list to purchase when I can, the rest of Songs & swords and Starlight & Shadows being at the top.

I'm rather interested in the ancient civilisations like Netheril and Imaskar. Books regarding Netheril have already been addressed, but what about the Imaskar and their descendants the Deep Imaskari?
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Dart Ambermoon
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Bruce Cordell´s "Darkvision" deals with (Deep) Imaskari.

As for why "Azure Bonds" is out of print, I have no earthly idea. The whole series is really good (including two later "crossover" FR/Planescape novels "Finder´s Bane" and "Tymora´s Luck"). If you find that you like the style of Jeff Grubb/Kate Novak, I´d really recommend that you snap those at a later point, whenever you get the chance. I hunted them for years here in Germany for a reasonable price.

~ In Finder I trust, for danger I lust ~

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by cephet

Thanks for the welcome.

Do you know why Azure Bonds is out of print? From what everyone's said on this thread it must be a masterpiece, one I really look forward to reading. I'm hoping it's not going to be out of print forever, considering how many people love the book, and taking into account the opinions here, it is a good book to introduce people to the Realms.


It's one of the oldest Realms novels. With a few exceptions, most of the older stuff is no longer being printed. The older stuff that is still in print is mostly from the authors that have an established batch of successful novels.

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